[General] Electron
John Duffield
johnduffield at btconnect.com
Fri May 1 00:05:18 PDT 2015
Chip:
Thanks. Please dont hesitate to ask me anything. Meanwhile, remember this:
when an ocean wave moves through the sea, the sea waves. When a seismic wave
moves through the ground, the ground waves. I dont know of any waves where
the medium doesnt wave. Do you? Does anybody? I suspect not. So: when an
electromagnetic wave moves through space, space waves.
If you find you cant get the waves to roll up into something resembling
the Williamson/van der Mark electron, you know theres something wrong
somewhere. The thing is that pair production happens, electron spin is real,
we dont talk of spinors for nothing, spin ½ means theres a 720-degree
double-loop rotation, and the reverse unwinding process occurs in
electron-positron annihilation. It cant be that complicated, any more than
making a Falaco soliton <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrDic8K4CAU> is
complicated. I should reiterate that a Falaco soliton is akin to half an
electron, with only the smoke ring minor-axis rotation and no steering
wheel major-axis rotation.
Regards
John D
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Sent: 30 April 2015 23:37
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Subject: Re: [General] Electron
Hi John D
Nice. I think I understand how to code this model. Starting with a 3D
grid, add properties to the nodes to mimic the known transverse wave
properties exhibited by space. Produce two waves which interact.
Will get started. May have to ask some questions as we proceed.
Chip
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:36 PM
To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'
Subject: Re: [General] Electron
Chip:
Yes, I do envisage a 3D model. I was thinking a 2D model would be simple
place to start, and didnt want to be too demanding.
I wasnt proposing that the two waves diffract one another, but instead
displace one another. Light is displacement current, see Taming light at the
nanoscale
<http://mag.digitalpc.co.uk/olive/ode/physicsworld/LandingPage/LandingPage.a
spx?href=UEhZU1dvZGUvMjAxMC8wOS8wMQ..&pageno=MzM.&entity=QXIwMzMwMA..&view=Z
W50aXR5> . Think of a big oceanic swell wave, then mentally freeze it. Then
send an ordinary ocean wave towards it. The latter rides up the swell wave.
In doing this, it changes direction. It is displaced. Once it gets to the
top it goes down the other side and continues on its way as if nothing
happened, so you might think the two waves didnt interact. But they did.
One wave changed the direction of the other. Do this with two 511keV
electromagnetic waves and each is displaced into itself, and then displaces
its own path into a closed path, forever. In terms of an experiment see
gamma-gamma pair production
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-photon_physics> and the Breit-Wheeler
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breit%E2%80%93Wheeler_process> process, which
was done indirectly at SLAC in 1997. There is no magic to this, the only
tool in the box is light, and angular momentum is conserved.
For background reading check out Maxwell and displacement current
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current#History_and_interpretatio
n> wherein light consist of transverse undulations, along with Percy
Hammond
<http://www.compumag.org/jsite/images/stories/newsletter/ICS-99-06-2-Hammond
.pdf> who said we conclude that the field describes the curvature that
characterizes the electromagnetic interaction. People think a gravity is
all about curved space, but it isnt, its all about inhomogeneous space.
So whats curved space all about? Electromagnetism! Check out
electromagnetic geometry
<https://www.google.co.uk/#q=electromagnetic+geometry&spell=1> . In an
electromagnetic wave the curvature goes one way then the other, like my grid
picture of potential. But when the wave goes round a tight twisted double
loop, you end up with an all-round curvature, one way or the other. Its
chiral, in 3D, but we can come on to that.
Regards
John D
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ticles.org] On Behalf Of Chip Akins
Sent: 30 April 2015 14:18
To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'
Subject: Re: [General] Electron
Hi John D
Do you envision a 3D model which is a 3D grid of space with your prescribed
wave propagating through the 3D mesh? Or are you suggesting a 2D wave
representation?
Are you proposing that two EM waves interact to diffract each other? Has
this ever been seen in experiment?
I suspect that a strong source of angular momentum must also be present in
order to catalyze electron-positron pair production (like when gamma rays
strike an atomic nucleus). So I think this means the waves will otherwise
just pass through each other and the conditions for confinement will not
exist, absent this additional source of angular momentum.
Chip
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:12 AM
To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'
Subject: Re: [General] Electron
Martin:
No probs re mass and gravity. Its good to talk. And if there was never any
confusion, and we all agreed about everything, whatever would we talk about?
David:
I dont have any issues with the horn torus or spindle-sphere torus. In a
previous email Ive referred to inflating the ring torus through these
stages. See Adrian Rossiters
<http://www.antiprism.com/album/860_tori/index.html> antiprism for torus
animations. See Martins picture below? Look at the cut end, its a bit like
a slice of onion. Mentally add more onion rings around those that are
already there, and the torus gets more and more spherical.
There is no charge at the centre. The charge is the twist, the winding, the
knottedness, the vorticity. Undo it with the opposite twist, and instead of
two field variations going round at c looking like standing fieldall, youve
got two field variations moving linearly at c.
Chip:
Is there any chance you could animate a wave in space, like this?
Its a bit like a wave in a rubber mat, or a seismic wave. Only this is a
wave of electromagnetic four-potential. The spatial derivative of this gives
the sinusoidal electric waveform, and the time-derivative gives the
sinusoidal magnetic waveform. See the horizontal lines? Where the tilt is
steepest the electric sine wave is highest. Where the tilting is fastest is
where the magnetic sine wave is highest. Look at
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation> electromagnetic
radiation on Wiki. Read the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation#Derivation_from_elec
tromagnetic_theory> Derivation From Electromagnetic Theory section, and
youll see this: the curl operator on one side of these equations results
in first-order spatial derivatives of the wave solution, while the
time-derivative on the other side of the equations, which gives the other
field, is first order in time. After that Id be very interested in an
animation where two such waves pass each other and displace each others
path, so much so that each wave ends up moving through itself.
Regards
John D
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