[General] Origin of the electron's inertia Gauthier's model & ADM model

[Richard Gauthier]

Hello Jack,

    John Williamson ( jgw at elec.gla.ac.uk <mailto:jgw at elec.gla.ac.uk> )  “Is the electron a photon with toroidal topology?” at  http://home.claranet.nl/users/benschop/electron.pdf <http://home.claranet.nl/users/benschop/electron.pdf>  is a theoretical physicist who worked at CERN for several years, then at Philips in Netherlands for several years with physicist Martin van der Mark, and now is a physics professor at the University of Glasgow. He now has new electro-magnetic photon and a electron models much more complex than mine. He doesn’t agree with my electron model (liking his own electron model much better) but is aware of my electron model since we both presented our models during several sessions of a sub-conference “What are Photons?” at the SPIE Photonics and Optics conference in San Diego last August. Williamson's approach to getting a spin 1/2 electron from a spin 1 photon sounds a bit like Finkelstein’s.

I’m proposing that photons (charged or uncharged) have trajectories but at the same time the photons on these trajectories generate quantum plane waves that predict the probability of finding charged or uncharged photons at a later time and place. So the photons generate the quantum waves which predict the photons.

       Richard

> On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Jack Sarfatti <internetscienceeducation at gmail.com> wrote:
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> One can try to make classical models of the electron and other real particles only in the context of the Bohm pilot wave theory where they are the hidden variables.
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> There are topological papers getting spin 1/2 out of spin 1 as classical field theories I think by Finkelstein?
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> However, what you have done is too simplistic, hand waving.
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> What is a photon trajectory? - light rays are only in the short wave geometric optics approximation neglecting diffraction.
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> Show me one serious theoretical physicist who has even claimed to understand your model, much less agree with it.
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>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Richard Gauthier <richgauthier at gmail.com <mailto:richgauthier at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi Jack,
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>>     I have a more detailed (unpublished so far) model for a spin 1/2 charged photon that can be incorporated into my current  model.  My superluminal spin 1/2 charged photon model resembles my superluminal spin 1 uncharged photon model at https://www.academia.edu/4429810/Transluminal_Energy_Quantum_Models_of_the_Photon_and_the_Electron <https://www.academia.edu/4429810/Transluminal_Energy_Quantum_Models_of_the_Photon_and_the_Electron> , but makes 2 loops instead of one per photon wavelength (like in the electron zitterbewegung model), and has 1/2 the helical radius of the uncharged photon model (R= lambda/4pi instead of lambda/2pi). It also moves internally superluminally at speed c sqrt(2) like the spin 1 photon model, and its helical trajectory, like that of the spin 1 uncharged photon, makes a forward angle of 45 degrees. By the way, both the spin 1 uncharged photon model and spin 1/2 charged photon model have calculated  (by my centripetal acceleration method) inertial mass (hf)/c^2 .
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>>     My more complete spin 1/2 charged photon model has this superluminal spin 1/2 charged photon incorporated into the light-speed spin 1/2 photon trajectory model described in my article  https://www.academia.edu/15686831/Electrons_are_spin_1_2_charged_photons_generating_the_de_Broglie_wavelength <https://www.academia.edu/15686831/Electrons_are_spin_1_2_charged_photons_generating_the_de_Broglie_wavelength>   .  I’ve only discussed this more complete spin 1/2 charged photon model privately on an e-mail discussion group “nature of light and particles" so far. 
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>> I’ve done preliminary work showing how my spin 1/2 charged photon model might fit into quantum mechanics at  https://www.academia.edu/10235164/The_Charged-Photon_Model_of_the_Electron_Fits_the_Schrödinger_Equation <https://www.academia.edu/10235164/The_Charged-Photon_Model_of_the_Electron_Fits_the_Schr%C3%B6dinger_Equation>  .  My spin 1/2 charged photon model generates the de Broglie wavelength with its phase velocity c^2/v  by emitting proposed light-speed quantum plane waves (with the same wavelength h/(gamma mc) as the circulating charged photon, as the charged photon circulates along its light speed helical trajectory. These emitted quantum plane waves intersect along the longitudinal axis of the circulating charged photon, generating the de Broglie waves with their wavelength h/(gamma mv) and phase velocity c^2/v.
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>>       Richard
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>>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Jack Sarfatti <internetscienceeducation at gmail.com <mailto:internetscienceeducation at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Light is a spin 1 field.
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>>> Electrons are a spin 1/2 field.
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>>> How do you get spin 1/2 from spin 1?
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>>> How do you get quantum theory from your model?
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>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Richard Gauthier <richgauthier at gmail.com <mailto:richgauthier at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>  Trying to establish that matter is made of light is for me not a waste of time and is not in my opinion a pseudo-problem, particularly since I think I am making progress in this, as my publications record is starting to show.  If I can also gain some insight into the origin of inertia with this approach, that’s a plus. Mainstream physicists need to expand their minds a bit. Anything that can help make physicists less materialistic-minded and more subtle without sacrificing scientific rigor is I think a good thing.  You have your way of doing this, I have mine. 
>>>>      Richard 
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>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Jack Sarfatti <internetscienceeducation at gmail.com <mailto:internetscienceeducation at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>>> YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME ON A PSEUDO-PROBLEM THAT NO MAINSTREAM PHYSICIST IS INTERESTED IN.
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