[General] Gamma from self-confined light

John Duffield johnduffield at btconnect.com
Thu Jun 9 12:44:08 PDT 2016


John W:

I volunteer to be a proofreader. Re your email, I feel the urge to comment.
You're black, I'm blue:

The main problem is that of postulating a circulating photon, without the
proper mathematics to describe this. Such a circulating photon is
continuously strongly accelerated; that is it is in a non-inertial frame.
Applying the standard simple mathematics for relativity is then bound to get
your mind in a twist.

I'm a guy who "roots" for relativity, but IMHO in the end I just don't think
it's needed here. 

Stuff going round and round in circles needs better maths and insight
though. 

Well, I like to think I'm good at the insight. You can do the maths.  

Even after (if) one has got ones head around all of this the answer to the
main question is still missing: what is making the photon go round and round
in the first place? What is the confinement mechanism for the electron
charge? This is what we should really be discussing. 

I think that's an easy one. The photon is making the photon go round.
There's nothing else there. To have the insight as to why, you have to
remember that when a seismic wave moves through the ground, the ground
waves. When an ocean wave moves through the sea, the sea waves. And when an
electromagnetic wave moves through space, space waves. Where the wave is,
space is curved, just like the surface of the sea is curved where the ocean
wave is. A second wave intersecting the first will change direction because
of this curvature. If this is so abrupt that the wave starts moving through
itself, it will keep on changing direction. If it ends up in a double loop
forever moving through itself, what was a field variation or wave
propagating linearly at c is now going round and round at c such that it
looks like a standing wave. Standing wave, standing field. Only we now apply
the label "charge". Make a paper strip like this then form it into a Mobius
strip to get the gist of it. Make sure you slide the ends along so that it
ends up looking like a ordinary Mobius strip. 



For me, the local force arises, in analogy to the Lorentz force, as a
product of the multi-vector field 

For me it's just displacement current. It does what it says on the can.
Because light consists of transverse undulations just like Maxwell said
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current#History_and_interpretati
on> . There are no waves where something doesn't wave.  

one can see the rest mass inherent in particles as a balance of the
interaction with the rest of the universe 

And one can see rest mass as per Martin's mirror box:
<http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.06478> http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.06478. The
electron is a photon in a box of its own making. Photon momentum is
resistance to change-in-motion for a wave propagating linearly at c. When
that wave is going round and round at c it still offers resistance to
change-in-motion. Only we don't call it momentum any more. We call it mass.


- one positive one negative - leading to a total mass-energy of the universe
of exactly zero

No. The rest of the universe is nothing to do with it. As Einstein said
<https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/> , the mass of a body
is the measure of its energy content. And the electron is such a body.   



Regards

John D. 

 

 

From: General
[mailto:general-bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com at lists.natureoflightandpar
ticles.org] On Behalf Of John Williamson
Sent: 09 June 2016 09:52
To: Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion
<general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>; Vivian Robinson
<viv at universephysics.com>
Cc: Nick Bailey <nick at bailey-family.org.uk>; Anthony Booth
<abooth at ieee.org>; Ariane Mandray <ariane.mandray at wanadoo.fr>; Mark, Martin
van der <martin.van.der.mark at philips.com>; Thomas Blackwood
<t.blackwood.1 at research.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [General] Gamma from self-confined light

 

Hmm,

 

I've realized that the previous email is far too cryptic for most folk to
get much out of it. Let my try to explain why the problem is hard - and not
easily addressed by using the standard approach of simple (inertial)
relativity.

 

The main problem is that of postulating a circulating photon, without the
proper mathematics to describe this. Such a circulating photon is
continuously strongly accelerated; that is it is in a non-inertial frame.
Applying the standard simple mathematics for relativity is then bound to get
your mind in a twist. One can do the maths for a photon bouncing back and
forth fairly simply (as in eqs 18 to 20) and for one bouncing sideways (one
has to realize here that field transform only perpendicular to a boost,
where space and time transform only along the boost - but this is known).
Stuff going round and round in circles needs better maths and insight
though. Sorry guys, one really really needs the maths and not just some
"losse kreet" about something is something else. One needs a properly
relativistic rotating wave-function which transforms properly in every frame
to describe this. Now here comes the hard bit: one cannot write a
conventional (complex) wave-function in terms of space and time. Whose
space? Whose time? These are different for every distinct angle theta in the
rotation. On then needs to find a wave function which one can accelerate and
will remain a valid wave function under such operations. This needs a Dirac
mathematics (at the very least). Such a wave-function is, I propose,
equation 21 in the paper attached to the last email, but this is not easy to
understand. In the first place the exponents are not complex but
hyper-complex (Dirac) elements of a 4D space-time (as they must be).
Secondly, although the spatial and temporal components are explicit, and
defined for any frame, the wave function as a whole is not in vector-space
but bivector space - so one needs, at minimum, to understand this. Without
help I think that only Martin has a chance here. Also, the wave-function
given is in Cartesian form. The "3" direction for a hydrogen-like solution
must then be azimuthal. One must then apply the spherical harmonics in the
usual way - but this is not right either for an isolated electron - one
really needs (probably) the half-integer Legendre polynomials of the first
and second kind (the Ps and Qs) with a matching condition at their
interface. Folk, (Merzbacher, for example) have tried and failed with this
kind of approach in the past. I think it is pretty much doomed to failure of
one tries to use simple complex wave-functions, as they do not incorporate
the right relativistic (rotational) transformations and will give a sign
error on the interface. If one is lucky one may be able to engineer an even
number of errors in such an approach!

Even after (if) one has got ones head around all of this the answer to the
main question is still missing: what is making the photon go round and round
in the first place? What is the confinement mechanism for the electron
charge? This is what we should really be discussing. Viv suggests that this
may be a QED type interaction with the rest of the Universe. As I have said
in previous emails this is a candidate. Martin calculated (estimated) this
decades ago and it is at least of the right order.

I have done QED calculations in the past (with big computer programs), but
this was so long ago I do not even have the code on an old-fashioned floppy.
If anyone has any expertise here (with QED) please get in touch and we can
discuss it.

 

For me, the local force arises, in analogy to the Lorentz force, as a
product of the multi-vector field with its derivative: GdG. This is outlined
in my other SPIE paper last year. These two approaches are not mutually
exclusive: one can see the rest mass inherent in particles as a balance of
the interaction with the rest of the universe - one positive one negative -
leading to a total mass-energy of the universe of exactly zero (as is
consistent with that which is observed in experiment). Action and re-action
for the self-confinement of the particles we observe in nature.

 

I could go on, but should get onto to working on the paper explaining some
aspects of this a bit better. It has been sitting untouched since I last had
any time over Christmas last year! If anyone feels up for it I will be
looking for volunteer proof-readers for it soon - I hope.

 

Regards, 

-John.

 

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