[General] [NEW] SRT twin Paradox
Wolfgang Baer
wolf at nascentinc.com
Fri Aug 25 19:09:40 PDT 2017
Dear John W, Grahame nd Albrecht:
I cannot let this request for help go unanswered:
I do not believe we have a any fundamental disagreement with the twin
paradox. It never was anything more than a semantic problem. If two
twins with identical and locally synchronized clocks are set on equal
circular orbits in opposite directions and meet again and compare
clocks, I believe it is an experimental fact that the clocks will run at
the same rate (neglecting solar gravity if experiments are conducted
near earth)
Fig 1
The appearance of a twin paradox in my opinion is completely due to
Einstein’s sloppy writing. In his 1905 paper, which I looked up, he
explicitly stated that a clock making a round trip at velocity “v” will
slow down compared with a stationary observer. The argument that both
observers applying Einstein’s theory would NOT come to this paradoxical
conclusion is based on an interpretation by a host of well meaning
physicists of Einstein’s original paper that suggests that each
observer, knowing relativity would use this knowledge analyze the
situation as shown in figure 1 above and therefore not expect the other
clock to slow down. As Kracklauer correctly pointed out that there is an
original SRT that had the twin paradox people justly criticized Einstein
for it and a slightly revised SRT that explains it away is usually not
mentioned. I think we all understand this and I have no argument with
Albrecht on this point.
Now however I insist that the speed of light is NOT constant because it
depends upon the situation the material (observer material) finds itself
in a gravitational field. As long as the field in that material is
fairly homogeneous the speed of light in that observers material is
representative of the speed of EM interactions and is constant. And
recognizing this dependency is critical to making progress in physics by
eliminating the crazy adjustments to classical physics the wrog
interpretation of bith SRT and GRT has hoisted upon us.
Now Albrecht correctly states that synchrotron experiments show that the
speed of light is constant and the mass is varying.
Fig 2
Now we have the situation of a charged particle traveling around a
circular orbit. Like the Bohr model of the Hydrogen atom, except much
faster. Now my CAT theory assumes that charge and mass are held together
by a Force that I have introduced for example in the Vigier 9 paper.
This means the internal structure of the orbiting electron would be
expanded and the extra energy is stored not in a mass increase but in
the stretch of the spring metaphorically holding the two together.
Interestingly enough both particles woul exhibit an internal rotation I
believe is spin. I think I could duplicate Sommerfelds fine structure
correction but have not had the time to do so and *would welcome help*.
But I thing I have a new and better interpretation od both SRT and GRT -
I've been trying to get this across to Albrecht and I believe we now
have tangible analysis problem before us to resolve our disagreement
So let me steer the conversation to this new challenge
Best wishes
Wolf
Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail wolf at NascentInc.com
On 8/25/2017 7:48 AM, Albrecht Giese wrote:
Dear John W and Grahame,
I think that I should explain a bit about this discussion between Wolf
and myself. Why this discussion is as it is.
I find the topic of Wolf about conciousness very interesting and very
important. So I have continued with this discussion. But, unfortunately
in my view, Wolf is basing his thoughts on a wrong understanding of
relativity. The finds that this "incorrect" theory 'SRT' is an
indication of our human failure to understand physics and so of our
misleading consciousness. - But not SRT is incorrect (as some of you
have already and repeatedly written) but Wolf's understanding is wrong.
- I am trying to give Wolf a correct understanding as a precondition for
a successful development of the issue of consciousness. I see that this
may be boring for those who have understood relativity. But what else
can we do to get ahead?
Any ideas?
Albrecht
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