[General] 22.12.

Fri Dec 22 12:48:49 PST 2017

Dear Pavel,

Of course, I will not dictate how you will represent the electron in your model. This is entirely your option. You are entirely free of course not to use the trispatial description of the electron.

Note that in Marmet's paper, the only part that coincides with the trispatial geometry is from the beginning of the paper to equation 26.

The remainder of his paper is his personal hypothesis on the internal structure of the electron that seems to be consistent with your conclusions, but is not consistent with the trispatial photon structure nor the trispatial electron structure, the latter being identical to the trispatial photon structure, except that it is rotated 90 degrees in the trispatial complex.

If you are interested, the trispatial structure of the electron is described in the following paper, which describes the trispatial mechanics of electron-positron creation from a decoupling electromagnetic photon of energy 1.022 MeV or more:

http://ijerd.com/paper/vol6-issue10/F06103649.pdf

I downloaded you electron paper to study.

Best Regards

André

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:46:57 +0100 (CET), Pavel OŠMERA wrote:

Dear André,

in the paper that is attached are the basic concepts of the electron fractal structure. Some ideas have already been overcome, but the foundation remains. E.g. "5 Magnetic field of permanent magnet is wrong". The levitation model is still the best. This does not mean that there is no better model. We need to include your thoughts and Marmet's thoughts into our model.

In Marmet's paper:
As a result, a hollow structure of electric and magnetic fields of the electron is absolutely necessary, due to the finite energy of the electron (511 Kev).
One must logically conclude that the electron is made of fields surrounding a hollow core.

In our papers:
The electron has a fractal and toroidal structure with a hole in the middle. In the hydrogen atom model, we distinguish the proton distance "d" from the electron to the proton and the radius "r" of the electron. The process of describing basic nature structures is far from complete.

Best regards

Pavel

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Předmět: Re: [General] Question to: Cern and its search for Magnetic monopoles at MoEDAL

Dear Pavel,

I agree with you that in physical reality, the electron cannot orbit the proton in the hydrogen atom as symbolized by the bohr atom.

>From the electromagnetic perspective, it can only stabilized in some stochastic axial resonace state that does not involve any constraining translational motion perpendicular to the direction where the proton lies, within a volume whose extent depends on the inertia of the electron as it is forced into this axial least action electromagnetic resonance motion, combined with secondary other interactions with neighboring atoms.

The energy level of the charged electron during this mostly axial somewhat stochastic resonance trajectory within this volume is adiabatically maintained as a function of the inverse square of the varying distance separating it from the inner charged components of the proton (Maxwell's first equation - Gauss equation for the electric field - Coulomb law) as it axially resonates.

The Larmer hypothesis to the effect that the electron in orbit must constantly radiate energy was made before it was established that energy levels in charges depend only on the distance separating them.

You write "The whole energy of the electron remains within the fractal structure of the electron"

Yes. This is in agreement with the permanent maintainence of adiabatically induced energy in the electron as a function of the distance separating it from the proton inner charged components.

This is completely analized in this paper:

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/on-adiabatic-processes-at-the-elementary-particle-level-2090-0902-1000177.pdf

You write "There is no centrifugal force between the electron and the proton in the hydrogen atom."

Yes there is. Due to the difference in frequencies of the magnetic oscillating cycle of the electron and of the proton much more energetic inner proton components, their magnetic interaction can only become predominantly repulsive whenever the electron comes closer to the proton than the mean distance at which Heisenberg's statistical density spread is at maximum (Corresponding to the Bohr radius).

This is analyzed and completely described on page 14 of this paper:

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/gravitation-quantum-mechanics-and-the-least-action-electromagneticequilibrium-states-2329-6542-1000152.pdf

You write "Centrifugal force is important in the electron fractal model."

As it should be. If you analyze the description of page 14, you will see that what you name "centrifutal force" corresponds exactly with the magnetic interaction between electron and inner proton components that becomes predominantly repulsive when the electron comes closer than the Bohr radius.

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http://www.srpinc.org/ On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:02:13 +0100 (CET), Pavel OŠMERA wrote:

Dear André,

in http://www.ijerd.com/paper/vol7-issue5/H0705050066.pdf is:

3) Finally, the reason why electrons do not crash on nucleons in atoms in spite of their
permanent electric attraction is explained by the permanent and unavoidable magnetic repulsion between nucleon and
electronic escort a s described, revealing the existence of an electromagnetic equilibrium distance between
electric attraction and magnetic repulsion corresp onding to the mean Bohr orbit in the isolated hydrogen atom.

My opinion is:
The power balance between the magnetic field and the electric field is OK.
The Bohr's model is accidentally valid only for the simple hydrogen atom. In a fractal electron model the subelectrons rotate around axis similarly as the electron around the proton in the Bohr's model. Calculations in both hydrogen atom models lead to very "similar" results. For more complex atoms it is not true. Therefore, the electron is not orbiting around the proton but levitates on a common axis with the proton. The balance of electrical and magnetic energy remains. This misleading Bohr's idea is so intense that it is constantly being used. It is known that the electron itself in the orbit must radiate energy. Electrons would have a spiral path to the proton. In the fractal model are radiating sub-electrons that transmit it to each other. The whole energy of the electron remains within the fractal structure of the electron. There is no centrifugal force between the electron and the proton in the hydrogen atom. Centrifugal force is important in the electron fractal model.

Magnetic lines are always closed structures, so there can be no magnetic monopolies.

Best regards

Pavel

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Předmět: Re: [General] Question to: Cern and its search for Magnetic monopoles at MoEDAL

I know that this makes no sense in the current paradigm, but from the trispatial perspective, since both poles of the time varying magnetic aspect of the electron coincide by structure and can thus be present only one at a time, all electrons and EM photons are magnetic monopoles at any given instant by structure:

http://www.ijerd.com/paper/vol7-issue5/H0705050066.pdf
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 05:27:31 +0000, Defiant NCC001 wrote:

Hello to all,

I have a question to the MoEDAL detector in CERN.
For me it seems that the Monopole-Detector can only detect monopoles via a mechanical photo plate.

https://youtu.be/jnEXKrsv5oM?t=78

According to this video this looksto me, like an old analog photo-camera, which needs to be placed in an "analysis bassin".

Therefore I have two questions:

* In what time-periods do scientists check the plates for magnetic monopoles ?
* Can MoEDAL also detect monopoles electronically/automatically in Real-Time ?

kind regards,
Hubert R

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