[General] light and particles group

Tue Jan 24 10:13:45 PST 2017

ChipIf you link the inertial part of mass to the "space" (plenum) then the "E" of mc^2 is inertial energy. That is the gravitational mass (that energy that warps space) is not part of "E". So the interpretation of mc^2  is as the container of inertial energy like a jar contains a volume of water. This leads to the equivalence principle from more fundamental postulates - a good thing.Hodge 

    On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:37 AM, Chip Akins <chipakins at gmail.com> wrote:

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:10 PM
To: Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
Subject: Re: [General] light and particles group  Chip: I like your thinking approach.           Measurable “momentum” arises through energy exchange between scattering entities; specifically, when one of the entity possess the “inertial property”, we call particles. And, Newton correctly postulated that they tend to stay “inertial”, “until acted upon by a force” (an entity that can “donate” energy to create kinetic motion).Chandra.  From: General [mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] On Behalf Of Chip Akins
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:28 AM
To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'
Subject: Re: [General] light and particles group  Hi Dr. Grahame Blackwell  What I was considering is trying to understand the mechanism for momentum in the propagation of energy in space. Whether that energy is in the form of light or confined in particles of matter. For if we can show exactly how it is that momentum is a fundamental feature of energy, as it moves in space, we then have specifically identified and understood the source for inertial mass.   This may help us refine our models.  I think that it will help us understand Planck’s quantization of action and its causes as well.  This research has already helped me understand how light can have both spin and orbital angular momentum, and it may well lead to a better grasp of other basic principles.  Other reasons for looking into this in detail, are to better understand the correct set of wave equations, and spin.  To understand the causes for what we observe.   I agree that a transfer of energy must implicitly also transfer momentum.  Momentum is a measureable result of energy.  But to me E=hf means that more energetic waves or particles are smaller. If that is correct then there is a cause. Probably the simplest explanation is that space has an inherent opposition to displacement, which creates this force Fc I have been discussing.  That is nice, simply because this force is also perfectly suited to cause confinement, not only of waves in space, but also of elementary fermions.   So if we can explore this possibility further, and create wave equations for waves which would be caused by the displacement and this opposing force, complete with momentum and all the other measurables, then we may have foundations upon which we can model everything.  I do not think that wave interference is sufficient to cause confinement. I have studied waves in great detail and still find that more than self-interference is required for confinement of waves into soliton (circularly or spherically confined) solutions. So for me, it seems that this equal and opposite reaction of space to the displacement caused by energy is the only logical path to explore.  It is my hope (and intuition) that this path will lead to understanding the mass formation thresholds for electrons so that we might know why the electron’s rest mass is the specific value we measure.    Chip  From: General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] On Behalf Of Dr Grahame Blackwell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [General] light and particles group  Hi Chip, I got a working copy, thanks. I see that of course you're going into far more intricate details mathematically than I was looking at.  In this case, it seems to me, the question becomes: "How is it that a photon travels through space?".  As I've said, once that's tied down the fact that it carries momentum follows as a natural consequence.(To some extent it depends on how one defines momentum.) Thanks again,Grahame
----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Akins To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion' Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 10:54 PMSubject: Re: [General] light and particles group  Once more.  Chip   

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