[General] What holds mass and charge together

[Dr Grahame Blackwell]

Wolf (et al.),

(diagrams dropped, with chain of other previous emails.)

In my view there is absolutely no issue as to what holds mass and charge together - neither is an object, to be 'held' to anything else, they are both effects.  There seems little doubt that both of those effects are artefacts of the fundamental content of a massive charged particle - namely its formative energy.

It's very simply shown that if a particle is moving then its energy content must increase in exactly the way described (without explanation) in SR - this is fully apparent from the Relativistic Energy-Momentum Relation; this is inertial mass, the requirement for that additional energy to maintain the structural integrity of the particle.  Likewise it's totally apparent from interference effects demonstrated in respect of massive particles that charge also must be an artefact of that formative energy.  So the very concept that they could possibly be separated, and so need holding together, makes absolutely no sense to me.  I Kant see the point of even discussing it! (Sorry, that pun may not translate very well!)

[As a point of detail, that energy is also its gravitational mass, for other reasons arising directly from that energy.]

Regards,
Grahame
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wolfgang Baer 
  To: Albrecht Giese ; Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:35 AM
  Subject: [General] What holds mass and charge together


  Chandra and Albrecht:

  I fully agree with the Plato's shadow analogy and the realization that we have been building a physics that explains the shadows  not the reality is very clear. But that involves  giving up the notion of a fixed objective reality and moving toward a n acknowledgement of a Kantian unknowable about which we make models that express our best guess and judge them based on success.

  It involves returning to simple examples and testing the logic of our assumptions. Toward this end I have returned to the old simple experimants the utilize the concept of mass and charge as the most understandable properties of matter. One of the central assumptions in physics is that of a point particle which places all properties of the particle and specifically the source and sink of mass and charge centers at a co-located point.

  So I ask what holds charge and mass together? what kind of physics would we have if there were a force Fcm and Fmc between charge and mass and mass and charge.



       

        

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