[General] Hestenes' work

Sun Sep 17 03:15:23 PDT 2017

Dear Andrew, dear Richard, and dear All,

I think that the cause of all problems regarding the electron is caused 
by the assumption given by Hestenes in his paper:

"High energy scattering experiments limit the size of the electron to 
less that 10^−16 cm, ...  which rules out models of the electron as an 
extended body."

This assumption causes a blocking of an understanding of the electron 
(and other particles).

I have discussed this assumption with professors of the DESY accelerator 
in Hamburg, where such experiments have been performed very extensively. 
One of them was the research director at that accelerator. The 
conclusions from these discussions resulted in the following:

At first the result that the size of the electron is that small. If we 
look at those experiments, then the result is in fact the size of the 
/electric charge /in the electron. And now  we have to see that the 
usual assumption that the electron is built up by the electric charge 
only is a possible one, but not the only possible one.

The other result of these experiments was that it was not possible to 
break up the electron by the bombardment with other particles of a 
sufficiently high energy. So it was concluded that the electron is not 
built by any constituents. -  But this latter conclusion is only true if 
it is assumed that the constituents do have individual masses. If we 
however assume that the constituents are mass-less then such an electron 
can never be decomposed by bombardment. Because if one constituent is 
accelerated at any huge acceleration, the other one can follow this 
acceleration without any restriction. So, no breakup can happen.

Here now can my model serve as an explanation. In my model the electron 
(like any other elementary particle) is built by two constituents which 
do not have any mass at all. The particle as a whole has an inertial 
behaviour, but that is a dynamical process which I have repeatedly 
described here and at our meetings. It is also described on my website 
with the title "Origin of Mass". (This site has top ranking in the 
internet for this title continuously since 15 years, so there exists a 
lot of response).

If this model is used, we can explain the properties of e.g. the 
electron like the inertial mass, the magnetic moment, the constancy the 
spin, the zitter frequency /with high precision /and without the need 
for quantum mechanical considerations. No free parameters are needed. 
The parameters used in the model are merely the speed of light c, 
Planck's constant h, the elementary charge e_0 , and as a type dependent 
variable the size of the particle (which is of course much greater than 
the one cited also by Hestenes). So I am asking again: what else is 
needed? Or what are objections against this model?

Best regards
Albrecht

Am 15.09.2017 um 16:09 schrieb Richard Gauthier:
> Hi Andrew and all,
>   I’m familiar with Hestene’s zitter model of the electron, though I 
> don’t follow his Clifford spacetime algebra that he used to derive it 
> from the Dirac equation. Hestenes doesn’t call his 
> helically-circulating (with helical radius hbar/2mc = 
> Lambda-compton/4pi) light-speed charged-particle zitter electron model 
> a spin-1/2 charged photon, but it sounds like it could be one to me. 
> Dirac said in his Nobel lecture:
>
> “It is found that an electron which seems to us to be moving slowly, 
> must actually have a very high frequency oscillatory motion of small 
> amplitude superposed on the regular motion which appears to us. As a 
> result of this oscillatory motion, the velocity of the electron at any 
> time equals the velocity of light. This is a prediction which cannot 
> be directly verified by experiment, since the frequency of the 
> oscillatory motion is so high and its amplitude is so small. But one 
> must believe in this consequence of the theory, since other 
> consequences of the theory which are inseparably bound up with this 
> one, such as the law of scattering of light by an electron, are 
> confirmed by experiment.” 
> https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1933/dirac-lecture.pdf , 
> p322.
>
>  Dirac's electron description also seems consistent with the idea that 
> the electron is a spin-1/2 charged photon.
>      Richard
>
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Andrew Meulenberg <mules333 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mules333 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Richard,
>>
>> I noticed that you are following Hestenes on researchgate. Have you 
>> read his
>>
>>
>>       Zitterbewegung in Quantum Mechanics
>>       D. Hestenes, published in: Foundations of Physics, Vol. 40,
>>       1-54 (2010); (also available at
>>       <http://geocalc.clas.asu.edu/pdf/ZBWinQM15**.pdf>http://geocalc.clas.asu.edu/html/GAinQM.html)
>>
>> If so, I think there are some important points, which we could 
>> discuss, that pertain to both photons and electrons. For example, 
>> below eq 44:
>>
>> "*S* cannot be a timelike bivector, though it can be null "
>>
>> and
>>
>> "for a lightlike particle/[a photon]/ the spin must be a lightlike 
>> bivector."
>>
>> He doesn't come out and say that electron spin is a spacelike 
>> bivector; but, he should. (Perhaps he has done so in another paper?)
>>
>> Once it is recognized that spin is a rotation about a time axis (for 
>> all but photons), rather than a space axis, many of the QM problems 
>> associated with electrons and their interactions are reduced or 
>> eliminated.
>>
>> Andrew M.
>>
>>
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