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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Andrew: I am very glad to see that some of you are constructing questions that forces us to think in terms of ongoing physical processes happening in nature; which I personally express as Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Let us keep on developing the potential structure of discussion at the San Diego conference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Framing the question determines the answer! However, the questions are created out of our conscious and/or unconscious PURPOSE of perpetually doing better and better (evolution!). Of course, it is done by our neural network, the human thinking mind, influenced by individual gene-set, collective cultures and strong self-disciplined minds. This is why it is critically important to promote how to become self-aware of our individualistic thinking logics. Logically self-consistent serious thoughts will always find some defendable explanation for observed natural phenomena. But that set of logics (postulates) will, for us, will remain always INCOMPLETE, because we have constructed them based upon insufficient knowledge of the universe. Yet, we must keep on evolving by iteratively improving upon the original logic-set. This is also the reason why we must consciously encourage diversity of thinking. Our different logic templates will extract out different aspects of ontological reality being used by nature; albeit mixed up by mental “chaff” appearing as logically self-consistent “reality” through our favorite theories and experiments. Remember that theory determines what we “can” measure and none of our measurements can extract complete information about anything of nature that we are trying to study (explore)! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> This is high time in the evolution of physics teaching that we make the students become consciously aware of their personal belief system; which is at the core of their enquiring minds (how they frame questions to understand nature).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Sorry for philosophizing! But, I am trying to keep my role as the provocateur to establish the platform for perpetually iterative thinking in physics, a paradigm that does not have to go through repeated disruptive REVOLUTIONS as our past history. Faster, iterative and corrective feedback will make our evolution steady. This will save many brilliant minds from producing nothing useful anchored to ontological reality, but, nonetheless, producing many brilliant concepts and theories.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> I have attached the review of a book on “Light:…..” by Kelly, which I have written in AJP. I praise the book for its comprehensiveness about the state of current theoretical understanding of light. However, I have also expressed my overall view against the collective “blind alley” thinking; which ignores the Non-Interaction of Waves (NIW) built into our theories. We must not generalize Gamma-Nucleon interaction results as THE platform to understand rest of the EM wave spectrum; they are dramatically different from the standpoint of detector-wave interaction processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> We have recently discussed about the response of a Nobel laureate. In the near future, I will give brief summary of my encounters with over half-a-dozen Laureates, starting with Willis Lamb in 1976, after I experimentally convinced myself about the NIW-property of all waves in the absence of interacting materials. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Let us keep up the high spirit of our enquiring minds! We are all important. We are all productive and useful. We are all have developed diverse logically self-consistent thinking templates. This is the most healthy aspect of positive human evolution. A la Newton, let us keep standing on the shoulders of our predecessor giants to keep on increasing our knowledge horizon; instead of succumbing to our evolutionary “messiah-complex” by bowing down at the feet of our great forefathers. It is high time for us to identify and articulate all the founding postulates behind all the working theories and recast them in light of all the current knowledge we have acquired. Physics is not non-evolving religion! And, inspire the next generation to do the same on the improvements done by us. The foundation of the edifice of the Physics has not been SET by the current working theories. Human minds and the methodology of our enquiry have not yet reached the stage to SET the foundation of evolution of scientific knowledge. It is a bit un-settling; but our thinking process must keep on evolving. Humans are thinking animals!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Our evolution is now driven by our cultural concepts in which we are totally immersed. Hence, the “Urgency of evolution-process-congruent thinking” to anchor our thinking to reality.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <b><i>If we do not explicitly frame our questions to access reality of nature; we will never find it!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> I apologize in advance if some you of you think I am just wasting your time!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> General [mailto:general-bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Meulenberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br><b>Cc:</b> P.G. Vaidya<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Listing topics on "photon-to-electron" discussion and people's views<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Martin,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thank you for the input. I look forward to learning from you in many areas (I guess I need to start by reading your papers). Right now, in my cold fusion work, I am looking at the effects on an electron when it is within a fermi of a proton. So, both your comments on the size of the electron (under those conditions) and the weak interaction are particularly important to me. I think that both this work on the electron and the theories of cold fusion will open up physics in the same manner as did relativity & QM in the last century.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My interest in the Pauli Principle fits with the model we have for the beginning process(es) in cold fusion. Perhaps you can answer a question that no one seems able to address: "when do two fermions become a boson?" It is possible to consider superconductivity, which does not require the electrons to be close and electron-positron annihilation, which requires them to be very close. What about two electrons in an atomic s-orbit (averaging an angstrom apart)? What about two electrons in a deep Dirac level orbit (~2 fermi radius, so 4 fm apart)? What about the proton and an electron? Physics seems to accept what is convenient and reject what cannot be proven.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We need a list of all the papers submitted and who will be there. I look forward to the sessions and the gatherings before & after.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_____________________________<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Mark, Martin van der <<a href="mailto:martin.van.der.mark@philips.com" target="_blank">martin.van.der.mark@philips.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew, good work.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would like to add to: “4) electron properties derived from photon”: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>anomalous gyromagnetic ratio, g-2 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>point-like interaction</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pauli principle</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>weak interaction</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At the moment I am (with John W) trying to prepare a paper o the Pauli Principle, we have had some idea about this since 1994 (see ICHEP’94 conference). The weak interaction is perhaps too illusive yet in a photon model, so very interesting to test creativity perhaps. Note that all other features in the list have been covered already in our 1997 paper. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is a little anecdote about this, I was invited to Hendrik Casimir’s home in 1993 (the Casimir force Casimir, indeed), He had retired more than 2 decades before from being the CEO of Philips Research and was, at 84, still very active. It was quite some honour to me and it was because he had heard about “the electron as a photon in toroidal topology” paper of John and me and was quite pleased with the derivation of the De Broglie wavelength and its cause as described in that paper (the original version was written in 1991, it took us a while to get it published). I had a long talk with him on black body radiation from wavelength size structures as well as on the so-called quantum cutter. Both where seen as very important for making more efficient lamps.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Dr. Martin B. van der Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Principal Scientist, Minimally Invasive Healthcare</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Philips Research Europe - Eindhoven</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>High Tech Campus, Building 34 (WB2.025)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Prof. Holstlaan 4</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>5656 AE Eindhoven, The Netherlands</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Tel: <span class=skypec2cprintcontainer>+31 40 2747548</span><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png"><span class=skypec2ctextspan>+31 40 2747548</span><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png"><span class=skypec2cprintcontainer>+31 40 2747548</span><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1027" src="resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png"><span class=skypec2ctextspan>+31 40 2747548</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> General [mailto:<a href="mailto:general-bounces%2Bmartin.van.der.mark" target="_blank">general-bounces+martin.van.der.mark</a>=<a href="mailto:philips.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank">philips.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Meulenberg<br><b>Sent:</b> zaterdag 21 februari 2015 9:03<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion; Andrew Meulenberg<br><b>Cc:</b> P.G. Vaidya<br><b>Subject:</b> [General] Listing topics on "photon-to-electron" discussion and people's views</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Folk,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I just finished glancing through Viv's paper. (I won't have time to read it for a while).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.la-press.com%2Fredirect_file.php%3FfileId%3D3567%26filename%3DPPI-4-Robinson_7102%26fileType%3Dpdf&ei=XrzaVN3yM5LaoASdvIBI&usg=AFQjCNEgMis5p6Np1a0a_LqfbJG-HZMcrw&bvm=bv.85761416,d.cGU" target="_blank">http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.la-press.com%2Fredirect_file.php%3FfileId%3D3567%26filename%3DPPI-4-Robinson_7102%26fileType%3Dpdf&ei=XrzaVN3yM5LaoASdvIBI&usg=AFQjCNEgMis5p6Np1a0a_LqfbJG-HZMcrw&bvm=bv.85761416,d.cGU</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Like so many papers of what has been written by people in this group, I think that we are all seeing the same vision (not necessarily thru the same glasses). On most of the topics, I could not express the many important points as well as she did, or John W. did, or John D. did, etc. in their various writings. The number of subtopics in the field is immense. The number of people (and egos of independent minds?) involved is already large and growing. How do we move it forward?<br><br>We don't have time to sort it all out with presentation of many individual papers (on one day at a single conference) that will say much the same thing. We don't have time to sort it all out with joint discussions of all of the topics during that week. Chandra has done almost single-handedly a great job on organizing and running the Nature of Light series. It has been growing over the years. I think that we all want to do things faster with this new direction. We now have the critical mass to bring it all together. Chandra has provided the 'bootstrap' to help us get it off the ground.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Chip and Chandra have listed some topics that need to be covered. John W. started to answer some of them. These are points for discussion when we get together at the conference (and even before). In the meantime, I would propose that we do several things that will organize our diverse thoughts, but joint effort. I would welcome someone volunteering for the work necessary and for other suggestions and contributions of ideas and effort. If we can use the website as a repository of contributions and a 'poster board' of the contributors and presentations, then we might be able to multiply the benefits of this gathering and its impact on the physics community.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We need a poster paper that will:<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>identify the main photonic electron concepts<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>List session presentations and presenters at the conference<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=2 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l12 level2 lfo2'>title of paper (s) and <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l12 level2 lfo2'>main emphasis of the presentation<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'>list topics that identify what we consider to be the important points.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=3 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo4'>it will contain sub topics and the subtopics will have 'positions' (specific concepts or simply pro & con)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo4'>each subtopic position will have a primary 'advocate' (if one exists) and <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo4'>Each member of the group (not just those at the conference) will have a column that will be filled in for each postion (e.g., green for agree, red for disagree, yellow for mixed, blank for undecided, 'O' for thinking that the position, subtopic, or topic has no added value.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l14 level1 lfo5'>provide a decision process that: <o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=4 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6'>'encourages' each author to chose a topic (or topics) to emphasize in their presentation at the conference. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6'>The papers probably will have to follow the abstract submitted. They can be more complete. However, <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6'>the presentations can avoid great repetition by having a couple general views at the beginning of the session(s) and then limiting slides to the particular point of interest.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7'>propose an additional conference to carry on what we are starting this year.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=5 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l13 level2 lfo8'>for alternating years?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l13 level2 lfo8'>In Europe?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l13 level2 lfo8'>SPIE, or other sponsor<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l13 level2 lfo8'>title?<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=6 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9'>. - - - - <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p>As a starting point, the topics list for people to vote on could include:<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo10'>Photon properties leading to the electron<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=1 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>Potentials in a photon (AM & BH) <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>fields of a photon<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>energy (mass) density of a photon (AM)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>self-focusing as result of high mass-density distortion of space<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>total internal reflection<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l16 level2 lfo11'>Imbert–Fedorov effect<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo12'>Coherent photon interactions <o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=2 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo13'>Constructive interference (Bosonic nature)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo13'>Destructive interference (Fermionic nature)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo13'>in-between interference (non- interaction?)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo13'>incoherent interference (non- interaction?)<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'>Photon-to-electron conversion<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=3 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo15'> self coherence<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo15'>photon bending in an inhomogenous <b>E</b>-field<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo15'>'rectification' of light<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo15'>electron-positron coupling via wormhole<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo15'>etc.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo16'>Electron properties derived from photon:<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=4 type=1><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>total energy <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>EM energy<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>charge (potential & fields)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>mass (charge & energy equivalent)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>Compton wavelength<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>deBroglie wavelength?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>ang. momentum<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>spin<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>relativistic response<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>predictions, different from known properties?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo17'>??<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ol><ol start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo18'>Others?<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p>Contributions to this list, from others in the group, should be added in italics. Phrasing these listed items in the form of true/false questions may not be possible; but, it is worth a try so that people can quickly answer and give a picture of where we stand as a subgroup.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This set of posters is not just for the subgroup. It will act as a guide for the group of attendees and speakers who have not thought deeply about the electron as based on photons.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>The information contained in this message may be confidential and legally protected under applicable law. The message is intended solely for the addressee(s). 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