<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">John,</div><div class=""> I very much appreciate your welcoming and open approach to ideas that you may not agree with. You were very kind to include me in a group e-mail discussion last year about your recent article on the electron. This inspired me to study your and Martin’s 1997 electron model in more detail, and to review Vivian’s article as well as take a deeper look at Hestenes’ and Rivas' models of the electron as a helically moving light-speed electric charge, which came from their Dirac equation analyses. Then, in combination with rediscovering Dirac’s Nobel lecture quote about the electron moving at the speed of light but only being observable moving at less than the speed of light due to its small amplitude and high frequency motion, various ideas and results kind of synthesized and the relativistic charged photon model of the electron emerged. That would not have happened so soon (if at all) without my having had the opportunity to openly exchange views with you, Martin and Vivian and several of your other colleagues, which I am very grateful for. Chip’s work has also been very inspiring to me. I feel that we all may have found different pieces of, or at least clues to, the electron-photon puzzle.</div><div class=""> Richard</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:41 PM, John Williamson <<a href="mailto:John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk" class="">John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;" class="">My dear Chip,<br class=""><br class="">There is absolutely nothing to apologise about. I should apologise as well, if it comes to that, for singling that thing out (when there is much more in the general discussion we have all been having). It is only through discussion, and seeing what others make of an exposition, that one can find the flaws in ones own presentations. Provided the questioner is serious and thoughtful, and of good will, it is pretty much, for me, the most valuable thing there is!<br class=""><br class="">So thank you for getting the wrong end of the stick there. This particular one (together with Richard going the same way) - has been very valuable to me. The fault lies, if any, in our poor explanation of just what we are talking about - a fault I will try to rectify in future work.<br class=""><br class="">Regards, John.<br class=""><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" class=""><div id="divRpF690295" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><font face="Tahoma" size="2" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class="">general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] on behalf of Chip Akins [<a href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com" class="">chipakins@gmail.com</a>]<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:26 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request<br class=""></font><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Hi John W and Martin</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">I would like to apologize for referring to your model form the 1997 paper as based on a “charge ribbon”.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">That was clearly an erroneous oversimplification. Will change the wording in my discussions and papers to try to avoid misrepresenting.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Your work has been a tremendous inspiration and I do not want to misrepresent it in any way.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Warmest Regards</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Chip</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class="">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Duffield<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:51 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> </p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class="">Chip:</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class="">It is interesting, isn’t it? Here’s another one:</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">With a small correction factor Δ related to binding energy, we can say this:</span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; position: relative; top: 16pt;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.gif@01D06D6A.34DACD60"><image001.gif></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> = 1.60218 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-19</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Coulombs </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><i class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">ε</span></i><sub class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">0<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></sub><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">= 8.854187817 x 10<sup class="">-12</sup></span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">4</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">π = 12.56637061</span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">c<sup class="">3<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></sup>= 26.94400241 x 10<sup class="">24</sup></span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">With no correction for binding energy we can calculate electron charge as:</span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">√(</span><i class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">ε</span></i><sub class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">0</span></sub><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">/4</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">πc<sup class="">3</sup>) = √(</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">8.854187817<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-12<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></sup></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">/ 338.5883200</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">10<sup class="">24</sup>) = √(2.6150304<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-38</sup>) = 1.61710<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-19</sup></span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">This is within 1% of the measured value of 1.60218<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-19</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Coulombs.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class="">Regards</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class="">John D</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com" title="chipakins@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Chip Akins</a></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:56 PM</span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'</a></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Hi John D</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Interesting stuff about Planck’s constant.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">2.42631<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-12</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>m is the physical wavelength of the confined photon in my electron model.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Chip</span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Duffield<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:43 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">John:</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The paper looks interesting. If you wish I’ll get back to you on it properly at a later date. Meanwhile take a look at<a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066" title="http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/" title="http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>by a medical doctor called Andrew Worsley. He talks about “harmonic quintessence”, and stuff like this:</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Planck units are based on the properties of space. The Planck length is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="digits">1.616199×10<sup class="">−35</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>metres. It’s<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>defined using the speed of light, Planck’s constant of action h, and the gravitational constant G. It can be written (using the reduced Planck’s constant) as ℓ<sub class="">P</sub>=√(ћG/c³). We can replace √(ћG) with 4πn where n is a suitable value with appropriate dimensionality. The expression 4πn/√c³ still yields the Planck length. But if we now set n to the value 1 whilst retaining its dimensionality, then with a very small correction factor<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">δ<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">related to binding energy, the result is a different length. It is however familiar: </span><span style="" class=""></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; position: relative; top: 14pt;" class=""><span id="cid:image002.gif@01D06D6A.34DACD60"><image002.gif></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">= 2.42631<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">×</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>10<sup class="">-12</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>metres </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards</span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">John D</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:viv@etpsemra.com.au" title="viv@etpsemra.com.au" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Vivian Robinson</a></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:49 AM</span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion</a></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">John,</span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You are in. I look forward to receiving your contributions to the structure of photons and electrons.</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Vivian Robinson</span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 01/04/2015, at 9:26 AM, "chandra" <<a href="mailto:chandra@phys.uconn.edu" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">chandra@phys.uconn.edu</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Welcome, John M.!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">I am glad to see that you are “on board” finally!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Please, feel free to read up the “archived” discussions and present your views using brief quotations to remind the readers the connection to the earlier discussions.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Chandra.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Michael: Please, send out the instructions as to how to access the archived discussions.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a name="_MailEndCompose" class=""></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">General [mailto:general-<a href="mailto:bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Macken<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:25 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Hello,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">I would like to join the Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion Group. I am John Macken and I presented a paper titled “Spacetime-based model of EM radiation” at the Nature of Light V conference in 2013. I have also submitted an abstract to make another presentation at the 2015 conference.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">I am very interested models of the internal structure of an electron and other particles. I have a paper that will be published next month which deals with particles, fields and forces. A preprint is available at:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt;" class=""><span style="" class=""><a href="http://onlyspacetime.com/QM-Foundation.pdf" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://onlyspacetime.com/QM-Foundation.pdf</span></a></span><span style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">I believe that I can make significant contributions to your discussion group.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Sincerely,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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