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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi John W<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The intent of this line of discussion is to probe more deeply into the structure of the photon and to address polarization entanglement experiments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>A thought and some questions for you John.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>First some background. As I understand it Quantum physics posits a superposition of spin states as a cause for planar polarization. In order to reach a more causal explanation, can we then envision two fields within the photon, spinning opposite directions, and constructively interfering only in a plane, which is dependent on their spin phase? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Are you familiar with Joy Christian’s work? He writes that two non-commuting rotations (spin operators) as local variables, exactly duplicate the predictions of Quantum mechanics and satisfy Bell’s inequalities in precisely the same way. I have checked some of the math and so far it seems to be quite accurate. In both of these approaches, two oppositely rotating fields would apparently satisfy these physical aspects of the theories… ???<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Christian uses a Clifford algebra to illustrate his theory. Have you had the chance to compare that with the work you are doing using Clifford algebra to in your new theory of light and matter? Specifically have you had any opportunity to check to see if two opposite, (non-commuting local) spins caused by your framework would also satisfy Bell’s inequalities? Or CHSH inequalities?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Of course you can see the underlying reasons for these questions. One underlying reason is to discover if two equal and oppositely spinning fields, confined within the photon, can explain polarization. In both, quantum physics, and Christian’s theories, it seems that two opposite spins are required, hinting that we would need those two opposite physical spins to be possible in a physical model of the photon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The other underlying reason is to discover if non-commuting (rotation) local variables can potentially be the cause for the appearance of entanglement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Chip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Williamson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br><b>Cc:</b> Anthony Booth<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>My dear Chip,<br><br>There is absolutely nothing to apologise about. I should apologise as well, if it comes to that, for singling that thing out (when there is much more in the general discussion we have all been having). It is only through discussion, and seeing what others make of an exposition, that one can find the flaws in ones own presentations. Provided the questioner is serious and thoughtful, and of good will, it is pretty much, for me, the most valuable thing there is!<br><br>So thank you for getting the wrong end of the stick there. This particular one (together with Richard going the same way) - has been very valuable to me. The fault lies, if any, in our poor explanation of just what we are talking about - a fault I will try to rectify in future work.<br><br>Regards, John.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF690295><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> General [general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] on behalf of Chip Akins [chipakins@gmail.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi John W and Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I would like to apologize for referring to your model form the 1997 paper as based on a “charge ribbon”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>That was clearly an erroneous oversimplification. Will change the wording in my discussions and papers to try to avoid misrepresenting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Your work has been a tremendous inspiration and I do not want to misrepresent it in any way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Warmest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Chip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Duffield<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>Chip:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>It is interesting, isn’t it? Here’s another one:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>With a small correction factor Δ related to binding energy, we can say this:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=92 height=51 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.gif@01D06DEA.FFF2C720" alt="clip_image002"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> = 1.60218 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-19</sup> Coulombs </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>ε</span></i><sub><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>0 </span></sub><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>= 8.854187817 x 10<sup>-12</sup></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>4</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>π = 12.56637061</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>c<sup>3 </sup>= 26.94400241 x 10<sup>24</sup></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>With no correction for binding energy we can calculate electron charge as: </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>√(</span><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>ε</span></i><sub><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>0</span></sub><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>/4</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>πc<sup>3</sup>) = √(</span><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>8.854187817 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-12 </sup></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>/ 338.5883200</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>10<sup>24</sup>) = √(2.6150304 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-38</sup>) = 1.61710 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-19 </sup></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This is within 1% of the measured value of 1.60218 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-19</sup> Coulombs. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>Regards</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>John D</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="chipakins@gmail.com">Chip Akins</a> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:56 PM</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'</a> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi John D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Interesting stuff about Planck’s constant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>2.42631 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-12</sup> m is the physical wavelength of the confined photon in my electron model.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Chip</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Duffield<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>John:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The paper looks interesting. If you wish I’ll get back to you on it properly at a later date. Meanwhile take a look at <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066" target="_blank" title="http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066">http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066</a> and at <a href="http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/" target="_blank" title="http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/">http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/</a> by a medical doctor called Andrew Worsley. He talks about “harmonic quintessence”, and stuff like this:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Planck units are based on the properties of space. The Planck length is <span class=digits>1.616199×10<sup>−35</sup> metres. It’s </span>defined using the speed of light, Planck’s constant of action h, and the gravitational constant G. It can be written (using the reduced Planck’s constant) as ℓ<sub>P</sub>=√(ћG/c³). We can replace √(ћG) with 4πn where n is a suitable value with appropriate dimensionality. The expression 4πn/√c³ still yields the Planck length. But if we now set n to the value 1 whilst retaining its dimensionality, then with a very small correction factor </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>δ </span><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>related to binding energy, the result is a different length. It is however familiar: </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=80 height=44 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image002.gif@01D06DEA.FFF2C720" alt="clip_image002"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>= 2.42631 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#222222'>×</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> 10<sup>-12</sup> metres </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>John D</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:viv@etpsemra.com.au" target="_blank" title="viv@etpsemra.com.au">Vivian Robinson</a> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:49 AM</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion</a> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>John, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>You are in. I look forward to receiving your contributions to the structure of photons and electrons.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Cheers,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Vivian Robinson</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>On 01/04/2015, at 9:26 AM, "chandra" <<a href="mailto:chandra@phys.uconn.edu" target="_blank">chandra@phys.uconn.edu</a>> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Welcome, John M.!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I am glad to see that you are “on board” finally!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Please, feel free to read up the “archived” discussions and present your views using brief quotations to remind the readers the connection to the earlier discussions.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Chandra.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Michael: Please, send out the instructions as to how to access the archived discussions.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>General [mailto:general-<a href="mailto:bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>John Macken<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:25 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[General] Nature of Light and Particles - Request</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I would like to join the Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion Group. I am John Macken and I presented a paper titled “Spacetime-based model of EM radiation” at the Nature of Light V conference in 2013. I have also submitted an abstract to make another presentation at the 2015 conference. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I am very interested models of the internal structure of an electron and other particles. I have a paper that will be published next month which deals with particles, fields and forces. A preprint is available at:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='color:black'><a href="http://onlyspacetime.com/QM-Foundation.pdf" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>http://onlyspacetime.com/QM-Foundation.pdf</span></a></span><span style='color:#444444'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#444444'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I believe that I can make significant contributions to your discussion group. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>John Macken<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:viv@etpsemra.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>viv@etpsemra.com.au</span></a><br><a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40etpsemra.com.au?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40etpsemra.com.au?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</span></a>"><br>Click here to unsubscribe<br></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:johnduffield@btconnect.com" target="_blank">johnduffield@btconnect.com</a><br><a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/johnduffield%40btconnect.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" target="_blank">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/johnduffield%40btconnect.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br>Click here to unsubscribe<br></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:johnduffield@btconnect.com" target="_blank">johnduffield@btconnect.com</a><br><a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/johnduffield%40btconnect.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" target="_blank">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/johnduffield%40btconnect.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br>Click here to unsubscribe<br></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>