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<DIV>Chip:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Re <EM>my current view is that energy reacts with space, causing
distortions, which are fields.</EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Think of space as a ghostly elastic jelly. Then imagine you insert a
hypodermic and inject more jelly. This results in a distortion of the
surrounding jelly, and a gravitational field. You effectively added energy, but
the jelly is space. Ergo at the fundamental level, space and energy cannot be
distinguished. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>All: </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There’s been some interesting emails, apologies that I’ve been busy and
have not chipped in much. But if I can say this in brief: </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>IMHO if you grab hold of this ghostly elastic jelly with your right hand
and <EM>twist</EM>, then reach round the side with your left hand and
<EM>twist</EM>, the distortion you now have is an electromagnetic field. Only
this analogy is somewhat back to front in that the tension needs to be replaced
by pressure. A sinusoidal field variation going round and round a twisted double
loop just right looks like a standing field. Experiment with sine-wave paper
strips to grasp it. Electrons and positrons move linearly and rotationally like
cyclones and anticyclones because they’re “dynamical spinors in frame-dragged
space”. They aren’t spitting photons at one another. Hydrogen atoms do not
twinkle, magnets don’t shine. However they exchange field in that the
short-lived positronium atom doesn’t have much in the way of a field. The
opposite twists tend to cancel, leaving only a pressure gradient. We call it a
gravitational field. </DIV>
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<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>John D </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=chipakins@gmail.com
href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com">Chip Akins</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">'Nature of Light and
Particles - General Discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles -
Request</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hi Richard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">An energy quantum as a foundation
for particles is quite an interesting concept.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">My current feeling, however is
that there is a more direct solution which does not require this sub
particle. The energy quantum may actually be the solution, but it seems to
me that a simple, more complete solution emerges from the concept of fields
being fundamental. Or in John Macken’s way of stating it, space is
fundamental. My current view is that energy reacts with space, causing
distortions, which are fields, and these fields cause forces which in turn
interact with the fields, causing, quantization, confinement, and therefore
oscillation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Of course I am not ruling out your
concept of an energy quantum, just pursuing another possible solution which
currently seems more plausible. The fields only approach, has been quite
fruitful, so I am becoming more convinced. The nice thing about such an
approach is the ability of that approach to define charge topologically, and
perhaps explain everything form the same topological framework. Part of my
motivation in pursuing the fields only approach is emotional as well. I
want to know the underlying reasons for how everything works. Introducing an
energy quantum into the solutions just moves the problem for me to something
even smaller and causes another level of definition to be required. So until
something forces me to think otherwise I am want to pursue the Occam’s razor
guided argument that fields are fundamental and are simply the interaction of
energy with space.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I have noticed however that in
almost every field based model, it is possible to insert an “energy quantum” as
a generator of the field and still have principally the same model. But I still
find it more comfortable to assume that fields are generated simply by the
reaction of energy with space.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Chip<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> General
[mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Gauthier<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 04, 2015
2:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Nature of Light and Particles - General
Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] Nature of Light and Particles -
Request<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Chip,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> Since we are rightly looking for causes, I would say
that neither charge nor field topology is fundamental, but that both are the
effects of something more fundamental than either. An uncharged photon has
topology but not charge. A charged photon has a different topology along with
its charge, and has rest mass as well. But rest mass is confined energy and a
cause must also be sought for this relative confinement of energy compared to
that of an uncharged photon. I think an energy quantum (which comes in different
varieties depending on the fundamental physical particle) is the cause of field
topology, charge and rest mass, as well as other particle
properties.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> Richard<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Apr 3, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Chip Akins <<A
href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com">chipakins@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi John Macken<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>It has been very interesting reading some of your work. It
seems that each member of this discussion group brings a new perspective and
therefore additional insight to the group.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>One of the background experimental artifacts addressed in
models of the electron comprised of a “photon” is of course the annihilation
reaction where an electron and positron release two gamma ray photons. The
notion that the photon and the electron are both oscillations of spacetime is
consistent with that as well. In the confined photon electron models which
display topological charge, the photon is changed in the spin trajectory and
orientation of its fields, so calling it a photon still, is taking some
creative license which we all recognize. Your way of stating the
electron structure may be more accurate. Several of us have described various
aspects of the fields in the electron and how they differ from the fields in
the photon. However, not only is space oscillating in these particles,
those oscillations, the reaction of energy and space, create fields, as you
have also addressed. I want to spend a significant bit more time
studying your work. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Regarding the photon spin, orbital angular momentum, and
polarization: Do you have an idea of the photon’s internal field
topology which can explain both spin and orbital angular
momentum?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi Richard<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>As far as I can tell, one significant difference in your
electron model and the models which display a charge due to the field topology
of the confined photon, is the assumption that charge is elemental, versus the
assumption that charge is topologically generated, otherwise the models a
fairly similar. I like the topologically generated view, because it not
only yields a viable electron model, but it also posits a cause for charge.
But until we can find a way to prove that concept with experiment it seems it
remains a matter of personal preference? Do you have any thoughts about an
experiment which might be able to prove or disprove the topological origin of
charge?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Chip<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>General [<A
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class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Richard
Gauthier<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday,
April 03, 2015 5:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Nature of Light and Particles -
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<P class=MsoNormal>Martin,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> A charged photon would not be a massless
object, so you would be right. A charged photon would have mass as an
electron, a muon or a tau. But a charged photon would have spin 1/2 hbar and
would be a fermion (since it is an electron.)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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Richard<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Mark, Martin van der <<A
href="mailto:martin.van.der.mark@philips.com"><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">martin.van.der.mark@philips.com</SPAN></A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Dear
Richard,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>It
just struck me that if you want to hold on to a charged photon as a concept,
it should actually be a W-boson, another very illusive thing to describe.
What I am saying is, that in case I would be right that there cannot be such
a thing as a charged photon as a massless object, indeed there is a
massive object that is a spin 1 boson with charge. It may not have some
double loop though…</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Well,
just a thought to see if we can keep as much on board as
possible…</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Best,
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18:48<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Nature of
Light and Particles - General Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal> I very much appreciate your welcoming and
open approach to ideas that you may not agree with. You were very kind to
include me in a group e-mail discussion last year about your recent article
on the electron. This inspired me to study your and Martin’s 1997 electron
model in more detail, and to review Vivian’s article as well as take a
deeper look at Hestenes’ and Rivas' models of the electron as a helically
moving light-speed electric charge, which came from their Dirac equation
analyses. Then, in combination with rediscovering Dirac’s Nobel lecture
quote about the electron moving at the speed of light but only being
observable moving at less than the speed of light due to its small amplitude
and high frequency motion, various ideas and results kind of synthesized and
the relativistic charged photon model of the electron emerged. That would
not have happened so soon (if at all) without my having had the opportunity
to openly exchange views with you, Martin and Vivian and several of your
other colleagues, which I am very grateful for. Chip’s work has also been
very inspiring to me. I feel that we all may have found different pieces of,
or at least clues to, the electron-photon
puzzle.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:41 PM, John Williamson <<A
href="mailto:John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk"><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk</SPAN></A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>My dear
Chip,<BR><BR>There is absolutely nothing to apologise about. I should
apologise as well, if it comes to that, for singling that thing out (when
there is much more in the general discussion we have all been having). It
is only through discussion, and seeing what others make of an exposition,
that one can find the flaws in ones own presentations. Provided the
questioner is serious and thoughtful, and of good will, it is pretty much,
for me, the most valuable thing there is!<BR><BR>So thank you for getting
the wrong end of the stick there. This particular one (together with
Richard going the same way) - has been very valuable to me. The fault
lies, if any, in our poor explanation of just what we are talking about -
a fault I will try to rectify in future work.<BR><BR>Regards,
John.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi John W and Martin<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I would like to apologize for referring to your model
form the 1997 paper as based on a “charge
ribbon”.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>That was clearly an erroneous oversimplification.
Will change the wording in my discussions and papers to try to avoid
misrepresenting.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Your work has been a tremendous inspiration and I do
not want to misrepresent it in any way.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Warmest Regards<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Chip<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>General
[</SPAN><A
href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>]<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>John
Duffield<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:51
AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>'Nature of
Light and Particles - General Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [General] Nature of Light and
Particles - Request</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: blue'>Chip:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: blue'>It is interesting,
isn’t it? Here’s another
one:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With a small correction
factor Δ related to binding energy, we can say
this:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><image001.gif></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> = 1.60218 <SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-19</SUP><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Coulombs
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ε</SPAN></I><SUB><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">0<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SUB><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">= 8.854187817 x
10<SUP>-12</SUP></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">π =
12.56637061</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">c<SUP>3<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SUP>= 26.94400241 x
10<SUP>24</SUP></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With no correction for
binding energy we can calculate electron charge
as:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">√(</SPAN><I><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ε</SPAN></I><SUB><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">0</SPAN></SUB><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #222222">/4</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">πc<SUP>3</SUP>) = √(</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8.854187817<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">10<SUP>-12<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SUP></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">/ 338.5883200<SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN>10<SUP>24</SUP>) =
√(2.6150304<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-38</SUP>) =
1.61710<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-19</SUP></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This is within 1% of the
measured value of 1.60218<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-19</SUP><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Coulombs.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: blue'>Regards</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: blue'>John
D</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><A
title=chipakins@gmail.com href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com"
target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>Chip
Akins</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Wednesday, April
01, 2015 2:56 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>'Nature
of Light and Particles - General
Discussion'</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Re: [General]
Nature of Light and Particles -
Request</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi John D<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Interesting stuff about Planck’s
constant.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2.42631<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-12</SUP><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>m is the physical wavelength of
the confined photon in my electron
model.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chip</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>General
[</SPAN><A
href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>]<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>John
Duffield<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Nature of
Light and Particles - General Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [General] Nature of Light and
Particles - Request</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>John:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>The
paper looks interesting. If you wish I’ll get back to you on it properly
at a later date. Meanwhile take a look at</SPAN><A
title=http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066
href="http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066" target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9610066</SPAN></A><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>and at<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><A
title=http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/
href="http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/" target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/19084/</SPAN></A><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>by a medical doctor called
Andrew Worsley. He talks about “harmonic quintessence”, and stuff like
this:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Planck units are
based on the properties of space. The Planck length is<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
class=digits>1.616199×10<SUP>−35</SUP></SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN class=digits>metres.
It’s</SPAN><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>defined using
the speed of light, Planck’s constant of action h, and the gravitational
constant G. It can be written (using the reduced Planck’s constant) as
ℓ<SUB>P</SUB>=√(ћG/c³). We can replace √(ћG) with 4πn where n is a
suitable value with appropriate dimensionality. The expression 4πn/√c³
still yields the Planck length. But if we now set n to the value 1 whilst
retaining its dimensionality, then with a very small correction
factor<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">δ<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">related to binding energy, the result is a
different length. It is however familiar:
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><image002.gif></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">= 2.42631<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #222222">×</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>10<SUP>-12</SUP><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>metres
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>Regards</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>John
D</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><A
title=viv@etpsemra.com.au href="mailto:viv@etpsemra.com.au"
target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>Vivian
Robinson</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Wednesday, April
01, 2015 2:49 AM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'> </SPAN></SPAN><A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
target=_blank><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: purple'>Nature
of Light and Particles - General
Discussion</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif'>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>You are
in. I look forward to receiving your contributions to the structure of
photons and electrons.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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quotations to remind the readers the connection to the earlier
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[mailto:general-</SPAN><A
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Macken<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
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PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><A
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<P class=MsoNormal>I would like to join the Nature of Light and
Particles - General Discussion Group. I am John Macken and I
presented a paper titled “Spacetime-based model of EM radiation” at the
Nature of Light V conference in 2013. I have also submitted an
abstract to make another presentation at the 2015
conference.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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of an electron and other particles. I have a paper that will be
published next month which deals with particles, fields and forces. A
preprint is available at:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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