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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Frank Wilczek is very smart and has a number of blind spots at the same time, like all of us, he is human.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, he is very right in what he says, but the IMPLICIT implication is wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">He is right because QED is a perturbative theory that describes the INTERACTION between CHARGED particles.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It does not describe the nature of the particles, as a matter of fact this is the part that is RENORMALIZED away!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So he is RIGHT in what he says.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What may be implied, is that this means that particles cannot be totally electromagnetic, and that implication is WRONG, already for the reason I have given
above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So this is, in very short, the answer you want.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What one has to deal with is Feynman Lectures Vol II chapter 28. The binding forces or Poincarestresses are not covariant with the electromagnetic part…unless
they are electromagnetic, but nobody knows how….they say…. See also the Boyer-Rohrlich controversy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Note that Frank Wilczek has had a problem with relativity, his “wence the force” letters in Physics Today some 10 years ago, I believe,<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes…<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:ArialUnicodeMS;color:blue">Physics Today
</span></i><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:ArialUnicodeMS-Bold;color:black">57</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:ArialUnicodeMS;color:black">(10), 11 (2004); doi: 10.1063/1.1825251<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is a part II and II and even IV a year later, I believe and maybe more….<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They are good letters, but he has a problem with rest mass, the thing that confuses many of us and about the meaning of E=mc^2, I have to look it up.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oh, I will come back to you later on the H-atom and the DB frequency, etc,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best, Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> General [mailto:general-bounces+martin.van.der.mark=philips.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Meulenberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> donderdag 21 mei 2015 15:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion; Andrew Meulenberg<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mary Fletcher<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [General] No mass (photon) - to mass (electron)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I found this statement (in the attached from Wilczek) that we may have to address in the photonic-electron model (my underline)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"In modern quantum electrodynamics (QED) <u>the electromagnetic correction</u> to the electron's mass appears as a multiplicative factor. It<u> cannot, therefore, bootstrap a vanishing intrinsic mass to a nonzero value.</u> This no-go result
arises because in the limit of zero electron mass the equations for electrons interacting with electromagnetic fi<br clear="all" style="page-break-before:always">
elds have enhanced symmetry (chiral symmetry), which forbids mass non-zero mass, even when back reaction is taken into account."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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