<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7638">John M., Andrew et al</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875">If the gravitational component stops oscillating, then the non-oscillating component might provide insight into a stopped or frozen photon.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875">Does the Poynting vector disappear if there is no oscillation? That is, is the Poynting vector frequency dependent? </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875">To examine this point, perhaps we need to move up to four-vector or full tensor at least for the theory</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_8775" style="">So far, photon-defined electron theories assume zero for the rest mass for the photon. If the photon has mass, one would expect charge. If there is mass with no charge, we have some explaining to do. And better measurement of mass is required. So, if we could stop the photon and measure the mass - no matter how small but greater than zero - should we expect charge?</div><div dir="ltr" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_8775" style=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style="" dir="ltr">The current batch of electron theories suggest that photons are confined, contained, and charged to form an electron. So a linear path photon undergoes a transformation to a curved path charged photon that behaves like the electron. However, the photon is massless and the electron has a clearly defined mass. Perhaps we cannot measure the photon mass because it's so small. After all, if there is any mass to the photon, then it might be possible to lower the mass even further and create the massless particle. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style="">If we could stop a photon and then restart the photon, one would expect the photon to continue on it's original vector. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style=""> There are at least two papers where photons have been stopped or frozen. In the following experiment, light was stopped for about one minute. This store-and-forward photon may be the basis of future quantum computing and communications systems. Then a few years later, a photon was "frozen" with an opaque crystal. To me, this trapping sounds like a squeezed state or a Glauber state.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><span><br></span></div><h3 style="box-sizing: border-box; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; margin-top: 0.2rem; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-family: 'Proxima Nova', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 200; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 1; font-size: 1.92857rem;" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7210">Stopped Light and Image Storage by Electromagnetically Induced Transparency up to the Regime of One Minute</h3><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><a href="http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.033601" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7037">http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.033601</a><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/engineering/news/archive/?id=13459" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7669">http://www.princeton.edu/engineering/news/archive/?id=13459</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><h3 style="box-sizing: border-box; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; margin-top: 0.2rem; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-family: 'Proxima Nova', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 200; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 1; font-size: 1.92857rem;" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7528">Sept 8, 2014 Observation of a Dissipation-Induced Classical to Quantum Transition</h3><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><a href="http://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevX.4.031043" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7462">http://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevX.4.031043</a><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/engineering/news/archive/?id=13459" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7280">http://www.princeton.edu/engineering/news/archive/?id=13459</a><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr">The mechanisms for stopping or freezing light aren't fully understood which may include CPT violation or other anomalies. One possibility is the photon is in a squeezed state or a Glauber coherence state. If chirality suffers, the we have a parity violation resulting in CP or PT violations since CPT violations come in pairs. If charge is created by this stopped photon, is mass created? Then we have CP and CT as options. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr">Photons are normally considered to be non-stop particles. However, in these two cases they appear more as direct flight particles with zero mass that when released continue on.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" class="" style=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr">Does a trapped photon have any rest mass? <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr">How would a photon with a rest mass affect the photon-electron relationship?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875">Best</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875">David</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6875"><span><br></span></div><br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6880"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6879"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6878"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6877"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6876"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Andrew Meulenberg <mules333@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25, 2015 8:07 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_9592"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_9591">Subject:</span></b> Re: [General] Force Equations<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_6881"><br><div id="yiv4639864915"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7208"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7207"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7206">Dear John M.,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You may be saving me a lot of work. I was planning on working on super-gravity this year and was basing it on energy-density-induced non-linearities. You may have solved the problem, or at least laid the ground work, before I ever get to it. Your statement "... gravitational waves require spacetime to have the specified <u>energy density</u>... ," is definitely pushing in the right direction. General Relativity is concerned about mass. At the basic level, it is mass/energy density that controls the interactions. This goes to the nuclear levels, i.e., below the region of validity for QM as we know it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Your study of the various ratios, and the identification of relationships leads to a whole field of information that is to easy to overlook without your signposts.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Good luck,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Andrew<span style=""></span></font><div class="yiv4639864915gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7748"><div class="yiv4639864915gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7747"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7756">_________________________________________________________ <br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv4639864915gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7746"><div lang="EN-US" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7745"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7744"><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7755"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7754"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7753"> However, I have also had two other major successes which I will briefly mention here. In the future I will dedicate a separate email to each of these other subjects. First, my son Jim, has generated computer simulations which show various characteristics of my particle model. Since my model quantifies frequency, amplitude and impedance, my models actually represent calculated effects. I might be able to send some computer simulations tomorrow. </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7839"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7838"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7837">Another success is that I can now show that my model of fundamental particles gives new insights into the electric field and the gravitational field generated by an electron or other fundamental particle. I previously concluded that an electron’s electric field contains both a non-oscillating strain of spacetime that produces most of the effects we associate with the electric field. However, there is also an oscillating distortion of spacetime at the electron’s Compton frequency. We know the energy density of an electron’s electric field, the frequency and the impedance of spacetime, so we can calculate the amplitude of the wave required to produce the known energy density of the electron’s electric field. This amplitude exactly corresponds to the expected magnitude and distribution expected from my particle model. </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_9075"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7752"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7836"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7835">The new gravitational insight is: I can now prove that gravity also has both a non-oscillating component that produces curved spacetime and an oscillating component that implies that a gravitational field also has energy density. When you compare the energy density of a gravitational field to the “interactive energy density of spacetime”, it is possible to see how the combination produces the curved spacetime.</span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7751"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7743"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7750"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7749">The document attached above is a few pages out of the revised version of my book. These pages contain some recently added information and some older information which was partly covered in a previous attachment. However, I decided to include some of that older information also since it sets the stage for the new information. I had to start somewhere, so the attachment starts in the middle of the book. Even though there is a vast amount of missing information, I think that you will be able to get the key points from the attachment. </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7801"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7759"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7758"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7757">My approach based on spacetime allows much more detailed analysis than the rest of the group because I start with specific properties of spacetime which can be quantified. I have dipole waves in spacetime which have specific frequencies, produce specific displacements of space and time and have dimensionless strain amplitudes which can be quantified. Combining this with the impedance of spacetime and some equations that I have developed, it is possible to calculate particle size, energy, energy density, forces, etc. Most important, the approach predicts that the particles (called “rotars) can generate three forces which correspond to the strong force, the electromagnetic force and gravity. In a previous post I gave some equations which showed previously unknown relationship between the gravitational force and the electrostatic force that were derived from my model. Now I have generated more equations which specify the relationship between the electrostatic force and the gravitational force produced by fundamental particles such as an electron. </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7760"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7761"><font size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7785"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432610268202_7784">The attached document is 5 pages. The last 2 pages are totally new, but even the first 3 pages can be seen in a new light. You will see that the relationship between the electrostatic force from charge<i> e</i> (designated <i>F</i><sub>e</sub>) and the gravitational force (designated <i>F</i><sub>g</sub>) is independent of the model which made these predictions. However, the equations on the last two pages fit so well with my model, that they become a proof for the model.</span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div class="yiv4639864915MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style=""> John M.</span></font></div></div></div><font size="2"><br clear="none">______________________________</font><font size="2">_________________<br clear="none">
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