<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span>John M</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10752">The method you propose is classical not in keeping with recent papers on radiation reaction, most notably a relativistic approach as derived by Fearn 2012 (one of Miloni's students now a professor)</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4469" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10808">http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4469</a><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr">The 3D amorphous phased array is a great gendanken. 2D phased arrays are well known. However, 3D optical arrays suffer from all sorts of fields, masses and energy transfers as well as dispersion issues. The reason folks like the laser is due in part to the non-linearity effects that can be produced. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10529">Furthermore, any approach may not produce a visible recoil since conservation of momentum needs to be conserved both externally and internally to a particle. Internal particle effects may "absorb" the recoil whether at the atomic or elementary particle level. So one needs to attend to both linear and angular momentum conservation.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_11312">Add to this is the potential associated with certain models using scalar fields, and one ends up in GR where the speed of light is lower within the amorphous array for whatever reason. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span>Finally, there is the question of NIH vs interference, especially at light like velocities.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span>Other than that, a great idea!</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span>David</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10523"><span><br></span></div><br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10527"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10526"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10525"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10524"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10528"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John Macken <john@macken.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Nature of Light and Particles <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:50 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [General] Light from Light reflection<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10530"><br><div id="yiv1070969822"><style>#yiv1070969822 #yiv1070969822 --
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#yiv1070969822 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10533"><div class="yiv1070969822WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10532"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10531"><span style="color:#444444;">Hello All,</span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10534"><span style="color:#444444;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10535"><span style="color:#444444;">It was great meeting with all of you. </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10536"><span style="color:#444444;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10538"><span style="color:#444444;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10537">I would like to introduce a different perspective to the discussion of the interaction of light with a thought experiment. Suppose that we have a billion small microwave antennas randomly distributed in space. The antennas on average are separated by a distance equal to about 10% of the wavelength that they will emit and the size of each antenna is much smaller than a wavelength. A billion of these antennas from a “cloud” about 100 wavelengths in diameter. If each antenna emits randomly, then the total cloud of antennas would emit an incoherent spherical emission pattern. However, if all antennas emit the same frequency and if the phase is properly controlled, then the emitted radiation can form a beam with a divergence angle of about 0.01 radian. Furthermore, the beam can be steered to propagate in any direction with proper phase adjustment. When the emission forms a coherent beam, then the cloud of antennas feels momentum in the opposite direction of the emitted radiation. This momentum would accelerate the cloud of antennas in the recoil direction.</span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10710"><span style="color:#444444;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10709"><span style="color:#444444;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10708">The example just given is a simulation of what happens in a laser. Each atom in the excited state can either emit a photon by spontaneous emission or by stimulated emission. When stimulated emission occurs, the emission is still generally spherical, but the phase of emission is coordinated so that part of the spherical emission is coherently added to the beam causing the stimulated emission. The spherical emission of a single atom “interacts” with the other waves to form a collimated beam propagating in a particular direction. The force imparted to the emitting atom is random if the emission is spontaneous or in a particular direction if it is stimulated. </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10713"><span style="color:#444444;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10706"><span style="color:#444444;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10707">In my way of looking at this, this example satisfies a loose definition of interaction of light waves. I assume that there might be a way of looking at this in which it can be argued that there was no interaction of waves, but this position will require stretching of definitions. </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10705"><span style="color:#444444;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10704"><span style="color:#444444;">John M.</span><span style="color:blue;"></span></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439663606211_10712"><span style="color:blue;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv1070969822yqt7708359448" id="yiv1070969822yqtfd78313"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> General [mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Mathes<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 14, 2015 8:58 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>; Andrew Meulenberg <mules333@gmail.com><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Light from Light reflection</span></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822yqt7708359448" id="yiv1070969822yqtfd17187"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal"> </div><div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4409"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Andrew</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4410"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4410"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">One paper that might be of interest is:</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4410"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5064" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.5897" title="Abstract" title-off=""><span style="text-decoration:none;">arXiv:1205.5897</span></a> [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5066" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/1205.5897" title="Download PDF" title-off=""><span style="text-decoration:none;">pdf</span></a>]</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;"></span></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5070"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5072" style="margin-top:3.0pt;"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Spin and Orbital Angular Momenta of Light Reflected from a Cone</span></b></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5074"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;line-height:14.05pt;background:white;"><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Mansuripur_M/0/1/0/all/0/1"><span style="text-decoration:none;">Masud Mansuripur</span></a>, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5078" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Zakharian_A/0/1/0/all/0/1"><span style="text-decoration:none;">Armis R. Zakharian</span></a>, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5080" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Wright_E/0/1/0/all/0/1"><span style="text-decoration:none;">Ewan M. Wright</span></a></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Another paper is:</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Fearn 2012 <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4533" target="_blank" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4469">[1212.4469] Radiation Reaction Force on a Particle</a></span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">David</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4412"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><blockquote id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4306" style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4305"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4304"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4392"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4392"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4392"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4392"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Andrew Meulenberg <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mules333@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com">mules333@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>>; Andrew Meulenberg <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mules333@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com">mules333@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4530">Sent:</b> Friday, August 14, 2015 8:36 PM<br clear="none"><b id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4528">Subject:</b> Re: [General] Light from Light reflection</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4303"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv1070969822"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4302"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4367"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Forgot the paper.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yqt51578"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4301"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4300"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Andrew Meulenberg <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mules333@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com">mules333@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4309"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4308"><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_4307"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">Gentlemen,</span></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">In discussions after Bob Hudgins' presentation on Wednesday, I realized that we had been too close to the problem (and solution) and did not recognize the information gap that existed within the community. The reference was with regards to the nature of light-light interaction. The paper by Dowling (attached) identifies the problem between the NIW school and the light-light interaction school.</span></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">It is necessary to emphasize and clarify some points.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div><ol start="1" type="1"><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5193" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">Dowling proposed that IDENTICAL waves interact. However, </span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5353" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">he was unable to PROVE reflection, rather than transmission.</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5354" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">Mathematically the results are identical.</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5171" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">In Dowling's paper, he demonstrates that even identical <b>components</b> of colliding waves have this property.</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5173" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">The difference of the colliding waves always is transmitted, not reflected.</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5174" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">Therefore, when added to the identical portion (that is the reflected part), the sum becomes equivalent to a transmitted wave.</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5175" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">The paper showed that the differences could be in:</span></li></ol><ol start="7" type="1" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5177"><ol start="1" type="1"><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5176" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">phase</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5178" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">amplitude</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5184" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">polarity</span></li><li class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5185" style="color:black;background:white;"><span style="">change in frequency</span></li></ol></ol><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5188"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Thus, while Chandra's NIW view is almost always correct, if based on numbers alone, there is a growing field (based on lasers), which proves that interaction of identical light goes beyond Dirac's statement that photons can only interact with themselves. With this new information, it is possible to view ordinary light from a different perspective. "Any identical portions of light beams can (and will) reflect from each other." </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5187"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">An example of this can be demonstrated by an introductory-physics device (Newton's cradle, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum#Conservation">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum#Conservation</a> ). Only if equal numbers of balls are dropped simultaneously will there be reflection of the same number as the input. If unequal numbers are dropped simultaneously, then it would appear that the larger number of balls is transmitted thru the set of balls. No one would say that the balls travel thru the stationary balls. Momentum reflection is the obvious answer in this case - and in the case of light. </span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5192"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Had Dowling remembered this demonstration, he would have been able to say with absolute authority that light can reflect from light. The appendix of our paper is a mathematical proof of the null-momentum point in the center of the 'dark' zone for equal waves. This is the wave equivalent of the equal-particle demonstration.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5191"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">My task for the next conference may be to demonstrate how this reflection effect affects the photon structure within the electron.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5190"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Andrew</span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv1070969822yqt99064"><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com">davidmathes8@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"><a href="<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv1070969822yui_3_16_0_1_1439609808422_5383" target="_blank" href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/davidmathes8%40yahoo.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/davidmathes8%40yahoo.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br clear="none">Click here to unsubscribe<br clear="none"></a></span></div></div><div class="yiv1070969822MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt7708359448" id="yqtfd18008">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com" href="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com">davidmathes8@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"><a href="<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/davidmathes8%40yahoo.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" target="_blank">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/davidmathes8%40yahoo.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br clear="none">Click here to unsubscribe<br clear="none"></a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></body></html>