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    Dear Richard,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for this reference to the article of Frank Wilczek. <br>
    <br>
    He has a quantum mechanical argument to determine a size for the
    electron. It is the application of the uncertainty relation to the
    magnetic moment of the electron. The result is as you write: 2.4 x
    10^-12 m, which is the Compton wavelength of the electron.<br>
    This is a bit similar to the way as Erwin Schrödinger has determined
    the size of the electron using the Dirac function in 1930. There
    Schrödinger determined the "amplitude of the zitterbewegung" also
    applying the uncertainty relation to the rest energy of the
    electron. It was "roughly" 10^-13 m, which also meant in his words
    the Compton wavelength of the electron. <br>
    <br>
    In my electron model its radius is 3.86 x 10^-13 m, which is exactly
    the "reduced" Compton wavelength. But here it is not an expectation
    value as in the cases of Wilczek and Schrödinger but the exact
    radius of the orbits of the basic particles.<br>
    <br>
    Thank you again and best wishes<br>
    Albrecht<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.09.2015 um 05:01 schrieb Richard
      Gauthier:<br>
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      <div class="">This 2013 Nature comment “The enigmatic electron” by
        Frank Wilczek at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com"
          class="">http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com</a> is
        worth a look. He states that due to QM effects, the size of the
        electron is about 2.4 x 10^-12 m, which is roughly in the range
        of some of our electron models.</div>
      <div class="">      Richard</div>
      <br class="">
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          <div class="">On Sep 16, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Wolfgang Baer <<a
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              sent me Main-2014.pdf and that may be the one not
              available on the web sight.</span><br style="font-family:
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              similar one that included the other topics as well.</span><br
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              it, its OK, I just like reading from paper.</span><br
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            <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
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              background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 9/14/2015 12:45
              PM, Dr. Albrecht Giese wrote:<br class="">
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            <blockquote cite="mid:55F723F0.3080200@a-giese.de"
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                class="" size="-1">John,<br class="">
                <br class="">
                You wrote a long text, so I will enter my answers within
                your text.<br class="">
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.09.2015 um 02:54
                schrieb John Macken:<br class="">
              </div>
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello David and
                      Albrecht,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">It was through
                      the contact with this group that I was finally
                      able to understand the disconnect that existed
                      between my idea of vacuum energy and the picture
                      that others were obtaining from my use of the term
                      “energy”.   Many of the mysteries of quantum
                      mechanics and general relativity can be traced to
                      the fact that fields exist and yet we do not have
                      a clear idea of what they are.  My answer is that
                      we live within a sea of vacuum activity which is
                      the physical basis of the mysterious fields. I
                      combine all fields into a single “spacetime field”
                      which is the basis of all particles, fields and
                      forces.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
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                      class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">David</span></b><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">, you asked
                      about the words</span><span style="font-size:
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                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>quantum,
                      quantifying and quantizing</span><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">. I did a word
                      search and I did not use the word “quantizing” in
                      either the email or the attachment to my last
                      post.  However, the paper<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">Energetic Spacetime: The New Aether</i><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>submitted
                      to SPIE as part of the conference presentation,
                      used and defines the word “quantization”. This
                      paper was attached to previous posts, and is
                      available at my website: <span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://onlyspacetime.com/" style="color:
                        purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://onlyspacetime.com/">http://onlyspacetime.com/</a></a><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                      class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht</span></b><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">:  I can combine
                      my answer to you with the clarification for David
                      of the word “quantify” and its derivatives.  I
                      claim that my model of the universe “quantifies”
                      particles and fields.  I will start my explanation
                      of this concept by giving examples of models which
                      do not “quantify” particles and fields.  There
                      have been numerous particle models from this group
                      and others which show an electron model as two
                      balls orbiting around a center of mass.  Most of
                      the group identifies these balls as photons but
                      Albrecht names the two balls “charges of the
                      strong force”.  Both photons and charges of strong
                      force are just words. To be quantifiable, it is
                      necessary to describe the model of the universe
                      which gives the strong force or the
                      electromagnetic force.  What exactly are these?
                      How much energy and energy density does one charge
                      of strong force have? Can a photon occupy a volume
                      smaller than a reduced Compton wavelength in
                      radius? Does a muon have the same basic strong
                      force charge but just rotate faster? Are the
                      charges of strong force or photons made of any
                      other more basic component?</span></div>
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              </blockquote>
              <span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height:
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                Regarding charge: This is a basic entity in my model. At
                some point a physical theory has to start. My model
                starts with the assumption that a charge is an "atomic"
                entity, so possibly point-like, which emits exchange
                particles (in this point I follow the general
                understanding of QM). There are two types of charges:
                the electric ones which we are very familiar with,
                having two signs, and the strong ones, which are not so
                obvious in everyday physics; they also have two signs.
                In the physical nature we find the charges of the strong
                force only in configurations made of those different
                signs, never isolated. This is in contrast to the
                electric charges.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                The basic particles are composed of a collection of
                charges of the strong force so that both basic particles
                are bound to each other in a way that they keep a
                certain distance. This distance characterizes an
                elementary particle. In several (or most) cases there is
                additionally an electric charge in the basic particle.<br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                The two parameters I have to set - or to find - are the
                shape of the strong field in the elementary particle.
                Here I have defined an equation describing a minimum
                multi-pole field to make the elementary particle stable.
                The other setting is the strength of this field. This
                strength can be found e.g. using the electron because
                the electron is well known and precisely measured. This
                field is then applicable for all leptons as well as for
                all quarks. It is also applicable for the photon with
                the restriction that there may be a correction factor
                caused by the fact that the photon is not fundamental in
                the sense of this model but composed of (maybe) two
                other particles.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                The size of the photon is (at least roughly) described
                by its wavelength. This follows from the mass formula
                resulting from my model, as with this assumption the
                (dynamic) mass of the photon is the correct result.<br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                As I wrote, the results of this model are very precise,
                the prove is in practice only limited by limitations of
                the measurement processes.</span>
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I could go on
                      with more questions until it is possible to
                      calculate the properties of an electron from the
                      answers.  So far both models lack any quantifiable
                      details except perhaps a connection to the
                      particle’s Compton frequency.  I am not demanding
                      anything more than I have already done.  For
                      example, I cannot calculate the electron’s Compton
                      frequency or the fine structure constant. 
                      However, once I install these into the model that
                      I create, and combine this with the properties of
                      the spacetime field, then I get an electron. 
                      Installing a muon’s Compton frequency generates a
                      muon with the correct electric field,
                      electrostatic force, curvature of spacetime,
                      gravitational force and de Broglie waves.  I am
                      able to quantify the distortion of spacetime
                      produced by a charged particle, an electric field
                      and a photon.  I am able to test these models and
                      show that they generate both the correct energy
                      density and generate a black hole when we reach
                      the distortion limits of the spacetime field.<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              In my model the Compton frequency of the electron (and of
              the other leptons) follows directly from the size of the
              particle and the fact that the basic particle move with c.
              The fine structure constant tells us the relation of the
              electric force to the strong force. This explanation
              follows very directly from this model, however was also
              found by other theorists using algebra of particle
              physics.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              Another result of the model is that Planck's constant -
              multiplied by c - is the field constant of the strong
              force. Also this is the result of other models (however
              not of mainstream physics).<br class="">
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">My model starts
                      with a quantifiable description of the properties
                      of spacetime.  The spacetime model has a specific
                      impedance which describes the properties of waves
                      that can exist in spacetime. Then the amplitude
                      and frequency of the waves in spacetime is
                      quantified.  This combination allows the energy
                      density of spacetime to be calculated and this
                      agrees with the energy density of zero point
                      energy. The particle models are then defined as ½<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ħ</span><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>units of
                      quantized angular momentum existing in the
                      spacetime field.  This model is quantifiable as to
                      size, structure, energy, etc.  Also the fact that
                      the rate of time and proper volume is being
                      modulated, it is possible to calculate the effect
                      that such a structure would have on the
                      surrounding volume of spacetime.  It is possible
                      to calculate the effect if the spacetime-based
                      particle model would have if the coupling constant
                      was equal to 1 (Planck charge), To get charge<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">e</i>, it is necessary to manually
                      install the fine structure constant. <span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              How do you get the value<span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">½<span
                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ħ</span><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the angular
              momentum? What is the calculation behind it? - I
              understand that in your model the electric charge is a
              parameter deduced from other facts. Which ones? From
              alpha? How do you then get alpha?<br class="">
              <br class="">
              I personally have in so far a problem with all
              considerations using spacetime as I have quite thoroughly
              investigated how Einstein came to the idea of this
              4-dimentional construct. His main motivation was that he
              wanted in any case to avoid an ether. And in his
              discussions with Ernst Mach he had to realize that he was
              running into a lot of problems with this assumption. He
              could solve these problems in general by his "curved
              spacetime". But this concept still causes logical
              conflicts which are eagerly neglected by the followers of
              Einstein's relativity (and which do not exist in the
              Lorentzian way of relativity).
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">The quantifiable
                      properties of spacetime imply that there should be
                      boundary conditions which imply that the waves in
                      spacetime should be nonlinear.  When the nonlinear
                      component is calculated and treated as separate
                      waves, the characteristics of the particle’s
                      gravitational field are obtained (correct:
                       curvature, effect on the rate of time, force and
                      energy density).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">In my last post
                      I have given an answer about the factor of 10<sup
                        class="">120</sup><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>difference
                      between the observable energy density of the
                      universe and the non-observable energy of the
                      universe.  This non-observable energy density is
                      absolutely necessary for QED calculations, zero
                      point energy, the uncertainty principle, Lamb
                      shift, spontaneous emission and quantum mechanics
                      in general. This non-observable energy density is
                      responsible for the tremendously large impedance
                      of spacetime c<sup class="">3</sup>/G. Since I can
                      also show how this non-observable energy density
                      is obtainable from gravitational wave equations,
                      it is necessary for<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
                        class="">you</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to show
                      how all these effects can be achieved without
                      spacetime being a single field with this
                      non-observable energy density.  In fact, the name
                      non-observable only applied to direct observation.
                      The indirect evidence is everywhere.  It forms the
                      basis of the universe and therefore is the
                      “background noise” of the universe.  For this
                      reason it is not directly observable because we
                      can only detect differences in energy.  The
                      constants<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">c,</i><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">G</i>,<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><i
                      class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ħ</span></i><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">ε<sub class="">o</sub></i><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>testify
                      that spacetime is not an empty void. <span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              Up to now I did not find any necessity for zero-point
              energy. And I find it a dangerous way to assume physical
              facts which cannot be observed. The greatest argument in
              favour of this energy is its use in Feynman diagrams. But
              is there really no other way? I have a lecture of Feynman
              here where he states that his formalism has good results.
              But that he has no physical understanding why it is
              successful. In my understanding of the development of
              physics this is a weak point.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              The discrepancy of 10^120 between assumed and observed
              energy is taken as a great and unresolved problem by
              present main stream physics. Those representatives would
              have all reason to find a solution to keep present QM
              clean. But they are not able to. This causes me some
              concern.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              The constants you have listed: c is the speed of light
              what ever the reason for it is. (I have a model, but it is
              a bit speculative.) But it has nothing to do with energy.
              G is the gravitational constant which is as little
              understood as gravity itself. Planck's constant I have
              explained, it is (with c) the field constant of the strong
              force (any force has to be described by a field constant);
              and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><i class="">ε<sub
                    class="">o</sub></i></span><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is the field
              constant of the electric force with a similar background.<br
                class="">
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">If spacetime was
                      an empty void, why should particles have a speed
                      limit of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">c</i>? For a thought experiment,
                      suppose that two spaceships leave earth going
                      opposite directions and accelerate until they
                      reach a speed of 0.75<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">c</i><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>relative
                      to the earth.  The earth bound observer sees them
                      separating at 1.5<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">c</i><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>but the
                      rules of relativistic addition of velocity has a
                      spaceship observer seeing the other spaceship
                      moving away at only 0.96<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                        class="">c</i>.  How is this possible if
                      spacetime is an empty void.  My model of the
                      universe answers this because all particles,
                      fields and forces are also made of the spacetime
                      field and they combine to achieve Lorentz
                      transformations which affects ruler length and
                      clocks.  None of this can happen unless spacetime
                      is filled with dipole waves in spacetime and
                      everything is made of the single component.  The
                      universe is only spacetime.<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              If two spaceships move at 0.75 c in opposite direction,
              the observer at rest may add these speeds and may get 1.5
              c as a result. Why not? If an observer in one of the
              spaceships measures the relative speed of the other
              spaceship, the result will be less then c (as you write
              it). The reason is the well known fact that the
              measurement tools accessible for the observer in the ship
              are changed and run differently at this high speed. The
              reason for these changes is for time dilation the internal
              speed c in elementary particles. For contraction it is the
              contraction of fields at motion which is a fact
              independent of relativity (and which was already known
              before Einstein). In addition when the speed of another
              object is to be measured several clocks are to be used
              positioned along the measurement section. These clocks are
              de-synchronized in relation to the clocks of the observer
              at rest. These phenomena together cause the measurement
              result < c. You find these considerations in papers and
              books about the Lorentzian interpretation of relativity.
              So, following Lorentz, there is no reason to assume
              Einstein's spacetime.<span style="font-size: 12pt;"
                class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                  class="">
              </span>
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John M.</span></div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              Perhaps I should read your book. But that chould take a
              lot of time, I am afraid.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              Albrecht<br class="">
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                      style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
                  <div class="">
                    <div style="border-style: solid none none;
                      border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225);
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                      class="">
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                        class=""><b class=""><span style="color:
                            windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span
                          style="color: windowtext;" class=""><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr.
                          Albrecht Giese [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"
                            style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;">mailto:genmail@a-giese.de</a>]<span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                            class="">
                          <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
                          September 13, 2015 1:43 PM<br class="">
                          <b class="">To:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
                          Macken<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                            href="mailto:john@macken.com" style="color:
                            purple; text-decoration: underline;"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@macken.com"><john@macken.com></a></a>;
                          'Nature of Light and Particles - General
                          Discussion'<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                            href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                            style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org></a></a><br
                            class="">
                          <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                          [General] research papers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
                      class=""> </o:p></div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
                    font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hello
                    John,<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    great that you have looked so deeply into the model
                    which I have presented. Thank you.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    There are some questions which I can answer quite
                    easily. I think that this model in fact explains
                    several points just in contrast to main stream
                    physics. In standard physics the electron (just as
                    an example) is a point-like object without any
                    internal structure. So, how can a magnetic moment be
                    explained? How can the spin be explained? How can
                    the mass be explained? The position of main stream
                    physics is: That cannot be explained but is subject
                    to quantum mechanics. And the fact that it cannot be
                    explained shows how necessary QM is.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    In contrast, if the electron is assumed to have a
                    structure like in the model presented, these
                    parameters can be explained in a classical way, and
                    this explanation is not merely a qualitative one but
                    has precise quantitative results.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    To  your questions in detail:<br class="">
                    The fact of two basic particles is necessary to
                    explain the fact of an oscillation and to fulfil the
                    conservation of momentum. A single object (as
                    point-like) cannot oscillate. The basic particles
                    are composed of charges of the strong force. In this
                    model the strong force is assumed to be the
                    universal force in our world effective on all
                    particles. A charge is a fundamental object in the
                    scope of this model. There are two kinds of charges
                    according to the two kinds of forces in our world,
                    the strong one and the electric one. The weak force
                    is in fact the strong force but has a smaller
                    coupling constant caused by geometric circumstances.
                    And gravity is not a force at all but a refraction
                    process, which is so a side effect of the other
                    forces. And, by the way, gravity is not curved
                    spacetime. This is not necessary, and besides of
                    this, Einstein's spacetime leads to logical
                    conflicts.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    The forces (i.e. strong force) inside an elementary
                    particle are configured in a way that at a certain
                    distance there is a potential minimum and in this
                    way the distance between the basic particles is
                    enforced. So, this field has attracting and
                    repulsive components. Outside the elementary
                    particle the attracting forces dominate to make the
                    particle a stable one. And those field parts outside
                    have an opposite sign. Now, as the basic particles
                    are orbiting each other, the outside field is an
                    alternating field (of the strong forth). If this
                    field propagates, it is builds a wave. This wave is
                    described by the Schrödinger equation and fulfils
                    the assumptions of de Broglie.<span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    With the assumption of two basic particles orbiting
                    at c and subject to strong force, the parameters
                    mass, magnetic moment, spin result from it
                    numerically correctly without further assumptions.<br
                      class="">
                    <br class="">
                    This model does not need any vacuum energy or
                    virtual particles. Those are simply not necessary
                    and they are anyway very speculative because not
                    directly observable. And in the case of the vacuum
                    energy of the universe we are confronted with the
                    discrepancy of 10^120 which you also mention in your
                    paper attached to your mail.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    The Coulomb law can be easily explained by the
                    assumption (standard at quantum mechanics) that a
                    force is realized by exchange particles. The density
                    of exchange particles and so the strength of the
                    field diminishes by 1/r^2, which is simple geometry.<span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    So John, this is my position. Now I am curious about
                    your objections of further questions.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Best regards<br class="">
                    Albrecht<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></span></p>
                  <div class="">
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Am
                      11.09.2015 um 23:51 schrieb John Macken:<o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom:
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                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello Albrecht
                        and All,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I have
                        attached a one page addition that I will make to
                        my book. It is a preliminary explanation of my
                        model of the spacetime field.  It has been very
                        helpful to me to interact with this group
                        because I now understand better the key
                        stumbling block for some scientists to accept my
                        thesis.  Therefore I have written the attached
                        introduction to ease the reader of my book into
                        my model. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht:</span></b><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I
                        appreciate your email.  We agree on several
                        points which include the size of the electron
                        and there is a similarity in the explanation of
                        gravity.  The key points of disagreement are the
                        same as I have with the rest of the group.  Your
                        explanation of a fundamental particle is not
                        really an explanation.  You substitute a
                        fundamental particle such as an electron with
                        two “basic particles”.  Have we made any
                        progress or did we just double the problem? 
                        What is your basic particles made of?  What is
                        the physics behind the force of attraction
                        between the particles? What is the physics
                        behind an electric field? How does your model
                        create de Broglie waves? How does your model
                        create a gravitational field (curved
                        spacetime)?  Can you derive the Coulomb law and
                        Newtonian gravitational equation from your
                        model? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">These might
                        seem like unfair questions, but my model does
                        all of these things. All it requires is the
                        reader accept the fact that the vacuum possesses
                        activity which can be characterized as a type of
                        energy density that is not observable (no rest
                        mass or momentum).  This is no different that
                        accepting that QED calculations should be
                        believed when they assume vacuum energy or that
                        zero point energy really exists. <span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht</span></b><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">, perhaps I
                        have come on too strong, but I have decided to
                        take a firmer stand.  You just happen to be the
                        first person that I contrast to my model.  I am
                        actually happy to discuss the scientific details
                        in a less confrontational way.  I just wanted to
                        make an initial point.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John M.</span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div class="">
                      <div style="border-style: solid none none;
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                        class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                          class=""><b class=""><span style="color:
                              windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span
                            style="color: windowtext;" class=""><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline;">mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
                              class="">On Behalf Of<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dr.
                            Albrecht Giese<br class="">
                            <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday,
                            September 11, 2015 9:52 AM<br class="">
                            <b class="">To:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a><br
                              class="">
                            <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                            [General] research papers</span><o:p
                            class=""></o:p></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear
                      John Macken,<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      I would like to answer a specific topic in your
                      mail below. You write "... would have particular
                      relevance to the concept that the Higgs field is
                      needed to give inertia to fermions".<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      We should not overlook that even mainstream
                      physicists working on elementary particles admit
                      that the Higgs theory is not able to explain
                      inertia.  I give you as a reference:<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 3pt;
                      font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                      text-align: justify;"><span class="" lang="EN-GB">>Steven
                        D. Brass, The cosmological constant puzzle,
                        Journal of Physics G, Nuclear and Particle
                        Physics 38, 4(2011) 43201< ,</span><o:p
                        class=""></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
                      font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"
                        class="">which has the result that the Higgs
                        field, which causes inertia according to the
                        theory, is by at least 56 orders of magnitude
                        too small to explain the mass of the elementary
                        particles. (Another weakness is the fact that
                        the Higgs theory does not tell us the mass of
                        any elementary particle even if all other
                        parameters are known.)<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        As you may remember, in our meeting I have
                        presented a model explaining inertia which does
                        not only work as a general idea but provides
                        very precise results for the mass of leptons.
                        The mass is classically deduced from the size of
                        a particle.  It also explains the mass of
                        quarks, but here the verification is more
                        difficult, due to the lack of measurements. In
                        addition I have shown that the model also
                        explains the (dynamic) mass of photons, if the
                        size of a photon is related to its wavelength.<span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                          class="">
                        <br class="">
                        You may find details in the proceedings of our
                        San Diego meeting, but also on the following web
                        sites:<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.ag-physics.org/rmass"
                          style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                          underline;" class="">www.ag-physics.org/rmass</a><br
                          class="">
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.ag-physics.org/electron"
                          style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                          underline;" class="">www.ag-physics.org/electron</a><span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>.<br
                          class="">
                        <br class="">
                        You may also find the sites by Google search
                        entering the string "origin of mass". You will
                        find it on position 1 or 2 of the list, where it
                        has constantly been during the past 12 years.<br
                          class="">
                        <br class="">
                        If you have any questions about it, please ask
                        me. I will be happy about any discussion.<br
                          class="">
                        <br class="">
                        With best regards<br class="">
                        Albrecht Giese<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        <br class="">
                      </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                    <div class="">
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Am
                          04.09.2015 um 18:40 schrieb John Macken:</span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom:
                      5pt;" class="">
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Martin,</span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I
                          wanted to remind you that I think that you
                          should update your article “Light Is Heavy” to
                          include the mathematical proof that confined
                          light has exactly the same inertia as
                          particles with equal energy.  Accelerating a
                          reflecting box causes different photon
                          pressure which results in a net inertial
                          force.  I already reference your Light Is
                          Heavy article in my book, but expanding the
                          article would be even better.  An expanded
                          article would have particular relevance to the
                          concept that the Higgs field is needed to give
                          inertia to fermions. The Higgs field is not
                          needed to give inertia to confined light. 
                          Furthermore, confined light exerts exactly the
                          correct inertia and kinetic energy, even at
                          relativistic conditions.  I have not seen a
                          proof that the Higgs field gives exactly the
                          correct amount of inertia or kinetic energy to
                          fermions.  Any particle model that includes
                          either a confined photon or confined waves in
                          spacetime propagating at the speed of light
                          gets inertia and kinetic energy from the same
                          principles as confined light in a reflecting
                          box.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                        class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John
                          M.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                            research papers<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                          125);" class="">My recent (and old) work can
                          be found on Researchgate:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          the most recent work:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                            class=""></o:p></li>
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                          10pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Quantum
                          mechanical probability current as
                          electromagnetic 4-current from topological EM
                          fields<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
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