<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
Hello Richard,<br>
<br>
according to present mainstream physics the size of the electron is
not more than 10^-19 m. This is concluded from scattering
experiments where the size of the electric charge is the quantity of
influence.<br>
<br>
As present mainstream physics (including the QED of Feynman) assume
that the electron has no internal structure and that the electric
force is the only one effective, this size is identified with the
size of the whole electron. This is in severe conflict with the
calculations of Schrödinger and of Wilczek based on QM.<br>
<br>
I have the impression that several of us (including me) have models
of the electron which assume some extension roughly compatible with
the QM calculations. <br>
<br>
Some details of my model related to this question: Here the electron
is built by 2 sub-particles ("basic particles") which orbit each
other at c. The electric force is not the only force inside. The
radius following from the magnetic moment is the reduced Compton
wavelength, and the mass of the electron follows with high precision
from this radius. At motion the size decreases by the relativistic
factor gamma, and so the mass increases by this factor. - However
there was always a point of a certain weakness in my model: I could
not prove that the electron is built by just 2 sub-particles
carrying 1/2 elementary charge each. Now Wilczek writes in his
article that in certain circumstances - superconductivity in the
presence of a magnetic field - the electron is decomposed into two
halves. This is the result of measurements. How can this happen with
a point-like particle? This is a mystery for Wilczek. But in the
view of my model it is no mystery but quite plausible. It only needs
now a quantitative calculation of this process which I presently do
not have.<br>
<br>
All the best to you<br>
Albrecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.09.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Richard
Gauthier:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:9DDFD39F-8EC1-4624-955C-8233B7DBDD40@gmail.com"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<div class="">Hello Albrecht,</div>
<div class=""> Yes, all of our electron models here have a
radius related to the Compton wavelength. Dirac’s zitterbewegung
amplitude is 1/2 of the reduced Compton wavelength, or hbar/2mc
, which is the radius of the generic circulating charged
photon’s trajectory in my circulating spin 1/2 charged photon
model for a resting electron. That radius decreases by a factor
of gamma^2 in a moving electron. Does yours? Incorporating a
more detailed spin 1/2 charged photon model with the generic
model could bring the model's radius up to the reduced Compton
wavelength hbar/mc.</div>
<div class=""> all the best,</div>
<div class=""> Richard</div>
<br class="">
<div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Dr. Albrecht Giese
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de" class="">genmail@a-giese.de</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8"
http-equiv="Content-Type" class="">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Dear
Richard,<br class="">
<br class="">
thank you for this reference to the article of Frank
Wilczek. <br class="">
<br class="">
He has a quantum mechanical argument to determine a size
for the electron. It is the application of the uncertainty
relation to the magnetic moment of the electron. The
result is as you write: 2.4 x 10^-12 m, which is the
Compton wavelength of the electron.<br class="">
This is a bit similar to the way as Erwin Schrödinger has
determined the size of the electron using the Dirac
function in 1930. There Schrödinger determined the
"amplitude of the zitterbewegung" also applying the
uncertainty relation to the rest energy of the electron.
It was "roughly" 10^-13 m, which also meant in his words
the Compton wavelength of the electron. <br class="">
<br class="">
In my electron model its radius is 3.86 x 10^-13 m, which
is exactly the "reduced" Compton wavelength. But here it
is not an expectation value as in the cases of Wilczek and
Schrödinger but the exact radius of the orbits of the
basic particles.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you again and best wishes<br class="">
Albrecht<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.09.2015 um 05:01
schrieb Richard Gauthier:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:B671D509-390A-4E6D-9E58-890055DD0BC2@gmail.com"
type="cite" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=utf-8" class="">
<div class="">This 2013 Nature comment “The enigmatic
electron” by Frank Wilczek at <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com">http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com</a></a> is
worth a look. He states that due to QM effects, the
size of the electron is about 2.4 x 10^-12 m, which is
roughly in the range of some of our electron models.</div>
<div class=""> Richard</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 16, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Wolfgang
Baer <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">I
should add you sent me Main-2014.pdf and that
may be the one not available on the web sight.</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">I
was looking for a similar one that included the
other topics as well.</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">If
you do not have it, its OK, I just like reading
from paper.</span><br style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">best
wishes,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">Wolf</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On
9/14/2015 12:45 PM, Dr. Albrecht Giese wrote:<br
class="">
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:55F723F0.3080200@a-giese.de"
type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font
class="" size="-1">John,<br class="">
<br class="">
You wrote a long text, so I will enter my
answers within your text.<br class="">
</font><br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.09.2015 um
02:54 schrieb John Macken:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello
David and Albrecht,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">It was
through the contact with this group that
I was finally able to understand the
disconnect that existed between my idea
of vacuum energy and the picture that
others were obtaining from my use of the
term “energy”. Many of the mysteries
of quantum mechanics and general
relativity can be traced to the fact
that fields exist and yet we do not have
a clear idea of what they are. My
answer is that we live within a sea of
vacuum activity which is the physical
basis of the mysterious fields. I
combine all fields into a single
“spacetime field” which is the basis of
all particles, fields and forces.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">David</span></b><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">, you
asked about the words</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>quantum,
quantifying and quantizing</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">. I
did a word search and I did not use the
word “quantizing” in either the email or
the attachment to my last post.
However, the paper<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">Energetic Spacetime: The New
Aether</i><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>submitted
to SPIE as part of the conference
presentation, used and defines the word
“quantization”. This paper was attached
to previous posts, and is available at
my website: <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://onlyspacetime.com/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://onlyspacetime.com/">http://onlyspacetime.com/</a></a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht</span></b><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">: I
can combine my answer to you with the
clarification for David of the word
“quantify” and its derivatives. I claim
that my model of the universe
“quantifies” particles and fields. I
will start my explanation of this
concept by giving examples of models
which do not “quantify” particles and
fields. There have been numerous
particle models from this group and
others which show an electron model as
two balls orbiting around a center of
mass. Most of the group identifies
these balls as photons but Albrecht
names the two balls “charges of the
strong force”. Both photons and charges
of strong force are just words. To be
quantifiable, it is necessary to
describe the model of the universe which
gives the strong force or the
electromagnetic force. What exactly are
these? How much energy and energy
density does one charge of strong force
have? Can a photon occupy a volume
smaller than a reduced Compton
wavelength in radius? Does a muon have
the same basic strong force charge but
just rotate faster? Are the charges of
strong force or photons made of any
other more basic component?</span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height:
17.1200008392334px;" class=""><br class="">
Regarding charge: This is a basic entity in my
model. At some point a physical theory has to
start. My model starts with the assumption
that a charge is an "atomic" entity, so
possibly point-like, which emits exchange
particles (in this point I follow the general
understanding of QM). There are two types of
charges: the electric ones which we are very
familiar with, having two signs, and the
strong ones, which are not so obvious in
everyday physics; they also have two signs. In
the physical nature we find the charges of the
strong force only in configurations made of
those different signs, never isolated. This is
in contrast to the electric charges.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
The basic particles are composed of a
collection of charges of the strong force so
that both basic particles are bound to each
other in a way that they keep a certain
distance. This distance characterizes an
elementary particle. In several (or most)
cases there is additionally an electric charge
in the basic particle.<br class="">
<br class="">
The two parameters I have to set - or to find
- are the shape of the strong field in the
elementary particle. Here I have defined an
equation describing a minimum multi-pole field
to make the elementary particle stable. The
other setting is the strength of this field.
This strength can be found e.g. using the
electron because the electron is well known
and precisely measured. This field is then
applicable for all leptons as well as for all
quarks. It is also applicable for the photon
with the restriction that there may be a
correction factor caused by the fact that the
photon is not fundamental in the sense of this
model but composed of (maybe) two other
particles.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
The size of the photon is (at least roughly)
described by its wavelength. This follows from
the mass formula resulting from my model, as
with this assumption the (dynamic) mass of the
photon is the correct result.<br class="">
<br class="">
As I wrote, the results of this model are very
precise, the prove is in practice only limited
by limitations of the measurement processes.</span>
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I
could go on with more questions until it
is possible to calculate the properties
of an electron from the answers. So far
both models lack any quantifiable
details except perhaps a connection to
the particle’s Compton frequency. I am
not demanding anything more than I have
already done. For example, I cannot
calculate the electron’s Compton
frequency or the fine structure
constant. However, once I install these
into the model that I create, and
combine this with the properties of the
spacetime field, then I get an
electron. Installing a muon’s Compton
frequency generates a muon with the
correct electric field, electrostatic
force, curvature of spacetime,
gravitational force and de Broglie
waves. I am able to quantify the
distortion of spacetime produced by a
charged particle, an electric field and
a photon. I am able to test these
models and show that they generate both
the correct energy density and generate
a black hole when we reach the
distortion limits of the spacetime
field.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
In my model the Compton frequency of the
electron (and of the other leptons) follows
directly from the size of the particle and the
fact that the basic particle move with c. The
fine structure constant tells us the relation of
the electric force to the strong force. This
explanation follows very directly from this
model, however was also found by other theorists
using algebra of particle physics.<br class="">
<br class="">
Another result of the model is that Planck's
constant - multiplied by c - is the field
constant of the strong force. Also this is the
result of other models (however not of
mainstream physics).<br class="">
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">My
model starts with a quantifiable
description of the properties of
spacetime. The spacetime model has a
specific impedance which describes the
properties of waves that can exist in
spacetime. Then the amplitude and
frequency of the waves in spacetime is
quantified. This combination allows the
energy density of spacetime to be
calculated and this agrees with the
energy density of zero point energy. The
particle models are then defined as ½<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ħ</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>units
of quantized angular momentum existing
in the spacetime field. This model is
quantifiable as to size, structure,
energy, etc. Also the fact that the
rate of time and proper volume is being
modulated, it is possible to calculate
the effect that such a structure would
have on the surrounding volume of
spacetime. It is possible to calculate
the effect if the spacetime-based
particle model would have if the
coupling constant was equal to 1 (Planck
charge), To get charge<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">e</i>, it is necessary to
manually install the fine structure
constant. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
How do you get the value<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">½<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ħ</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the
angular momentum? What is the calculation behind
it? - I understand that in your model the
electric charge is a parameter deduced from
other facts. Which ones? From alpha? How do you
then get alpha?<br class="">
<br class="">
I personally have in so far a problem with all
considerations using spacetime as I have quite
thoroughly investigated how Einstein came to the
idea of this 4-dimentional construct. His main
motivation was that he wanted in any case to
avoid an ether. And in his discussions with
Ernst Mach he had to realize that he was running
into a lot of problems with this assumption. He
could solve these problems in general by his
"curved spacetime". But this concept still
causes logical conflicts which are eagerly
neglected by the followers of Einstein's
relativity (and which do not exist in the
Lorentzian way of relativity).
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">The
quantifiable properties of spacetime
imply that there should be boundary
conditions which imply that the waves in
spacetime should be nonlinear. When the
nonlinear component is calculated and
treated as separate waves, the
characteristics of the particle’s
gravitational field are obtained
(correct: curvature, effect on the rate
of time, force and energy density).<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">In my
last post I have given an answer about
the factor of 10<sup class="">120</sup><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>difference
between the observable energy density of
the universe and the non-observable
energy of the universe. This
non-observable energy density is
absolutely necessary for QED
calculations, zero point energy, the
uncertainty principle, Lamb shift,
spontaneous emission and quantum
mechanics in general. This
non-observable energy density is
responsible for the tremendously large
impedance of spacetime c<sup class="">3</sup>/G.
Since I can also show how this
non-observable energy density is
obtainable from gravitational wave
equations, it is necessary for<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">you</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to
show how all these effects can be
achieved without spacetime being a
single field with this non-observable
energy density. In fact, the name
non-observable only applied to direct
observation. The indirect evidence is
everywhere. It forms the basis of the
universe and therefore is the
“background noise” of the universe. For
this reason it is not directly
observable because we can only detect
differences in energy. The constants<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">c,</i><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">G</i>,<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><i
class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;"
class="">ħ</span></i><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">ε<sub class="">o</sub></i><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>testify
that spacetime is not an empty void. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Up to now I did not find any necessity for
zero-point energy. And I find it a dangerous way
to assume physical facts which cannot be
observed. The greatest argument in favour of
this energy is its use in Feynman diagrams. But
is there really no other way? I have a lecture
of Feynman here where he states that his
formalism has good results. But that he has no
physical understanding why it is successful. In
my understanding of the development of physics
this is a weak point.<br class="">
<br class="">
The discrepancy of 10^120 between assumed and
observed energy is taken as a great and
unresolved problem by present main stream
physics. Those representatives would have all
reason to find a solution to keep present QM
clean. But they are not able to. This causes me
some concern.<br class="">
<br class="">
The constants you have listed: c is the speed of
light what ever the reason for it is. (I have a
model, but it is a bit speculative.) But it has
nothing to do with energy. G is the
gravitational constant which is as little
understood as gravity itself. Planck's constant
I have explained, it is (with c) the field
constant of the strong force (any force has to
be described by a field constant); and<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><i class="">ε<sub
class="">o</sub></i></span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is the
field constant of the electric force with a
similar background.<br class="">
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">If
spacetime was an empty void, why should
particles have a speed limit of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">c</i>? For a thought
experiment, suppose that two spaceships
leave earth going opposite directions
and accelerate until they reach a speed
of 0.75<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">c</i><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>relative
to the earth. The earth bound observer
sees them separating at 1.5<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">c</i><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>but
the rules of relativistic addition of
velocity has a spaceship observer seeing
the other spaceship moving away at only
0.96<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">c</i>. How is this possible
if spacetime is an empty void. My model
of the universe answers this because all
particles, fields and forces are also
made of the spacetime field and they
combine to achieve Lorentz
transformations which affects ruler
length and clocks. None of this can
happen unless spacetime is filled with
dipole waves in spacetime and everything
is made of the single component. The
universe is only spacetime.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
If two spaceships move at 0.75 c in opposite
direction, the observer at rest may add these
speeds and may get 1.5 c as a result. Why not?
If an observer in one of the spaceships measures
the relative speed of the other spaceship, the
result will be less then c (as you write it).
The reason is the well known fact that the
measurement tools accessible for the observer in
the ship are changed and run differently at this
high speed. The reason for these changes is for
time dilation the internal speed c in elementary
particles. For contraction it is the contraction
of fields at motion which is a fact independent
of relativity (and which was already known
before Einstein). In addition when the speed of
another object is to be measured several clocks
are to be used positioned along the measurement
section. These clocks are de-synchronized in
relation to the clocks of the observer at rest.
These phenomena together cause the measurement
result < c. You find these considerations in
papers and books about the Lorentzian
interpretation of relativity. So, following
Lorentz, there is no reason to assume Einstein's
spacetime.<span style="font-size: 12pt;"
class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
</span>
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John
M.</span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Perhaps I should read your book. But that chould
take a lot of time, I am afraid.<br class="">
<br class="">
Albrecht<br class="">
<blockquote
cite="mid:007301d0ee87$df0903d0$9d1b0b70$@macken.com"
type="cite" class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page:
WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style: solid none none;
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225);
border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in
0in;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
style="color: windowtext;"
class="">From:</span></b><span
style="color: windowtext;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr.
Albrecht Giese [<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de">mailto:genmail@a-giese.de</a></a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
September 13, 2015 1:43 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
Macken<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:john@macken.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@macken.com"><john@macken.com></a></a>;
'Nature of Light and Particles -
General Discussion'<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org></a></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[General] research papers<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in
12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;">Hello John,<br
class="">
<br class="">
great that you have looked so deeply into
the model which I have presented. Thank
you.<br class="">
<br class="">
There are some questions which I can
answer quite easily. I think that this
model in fact explains several points just
in contrast to main stream physics. In
standard physics the electron (just as an
example) is a point-like object without
any internal structure. So, how can a
magnetic moment be explained? How can the
spin be explained? How can the mass be
explained? The position of main stream
physics is: That cannot be explained but
is subject to quantum mechanics. And the
fact that it cannot be explained shows how
necessary QM is.<br class="">
<br class="">
In contrast, if the electron is assumed to
have a structure like in the model
presented, these parameters can be
explained in a classical way, and this
explanation is not merely a qualitative
one but has precise quantitative results.<br
class="">
<br class="">
To your questions in detail:<br class="">
The fact of two basic particles is
necessary to explain the fact of an
oscillation and to fulfil the conservation
of momentum. A single object (as
point-like) cannot oscillate. The basic
particles are composed of charges of the
strong force. In this model the strong
force is assumed to be the universal force
in our world effective on all particles. A
charge is a fundamental object in the
scope of this model. There are two kinds
of charges according to the two kinds of
forces in our world, the strong one and
the electric one. The weak force is in
fact the strong force but has a smaller
coupling constant caused by geometric
circumstances. And gravity is not a force
at all but a refraction process, which is
so a side effect of the other forces. And,
by the way, gravity is not curved
spacetime. This is not necessary, and
besides of this, Einstein's spacetime
leads to logical conflicts.<br class="">
<br class="">
The forces (i.e. strong force) inside an
elementary particle are configured in a
way that at a certain distance there is a
potential minimum and in this way the
distance between the basic particles is
enforced. So, this field has attracting
and repulsive components. Outside the
elementary particle the attracting forces
dominate to make the particle a stable
one. And those field parts outside have an
opposite sign. Now, as the basic particles
are orbiting each other, the outside field
is an alternating field (of the strong
forth). If this field propagates, it is
builds a wave. This wave is described by
the Schrödinger equation and fulfils the
assumptions of de Broglie.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
With the assumption of two basic particles
orbiting at c and subject to strong force,
the parameters mass, magnetic moment, spin
result from it numerically correctly
without further assumptions.<br class="">
<br class="">
This model does not need any vacuum energy
or virtual particles. Those are simply not
necessary and they are anyway very
speculative because not directly
observable. And in the case of the vacuum
energy of the universe we are confronted
with the discrepancy of 10^120 which you
also mention in your paper attached to
your mail.<br class="">
<br class="">
The Coulomb law can be easily explained by
the assumption (standard at quantum
mechanics) that a force is realized by
exchange particles. The density of
exchange particles and so the strength of
the field diminishes by 1/r^2, which is
simple geometry.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
So John, this is my position. Now I am
curious about your objections of further
questions.<br class="">
<br class="">
Best regards<br class="">
Albrecht<br class="">
<br class="">
<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Am 11.09.2015 um
23:51 schrieb John Macken:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello
Albrecht and All,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I
have attached a one page addition that
I will make to my book. It is a
preliminary explanation of my model of
the spacetime field. It has been very
helpful to me to interact with this
group because I now understand better
the key stumbling block for some
scientists to accept my thesis.
Therefore I have written the attached
introduction to ease the reader of my
book into my model. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I
appreciate your email. We agree on
several points which include the size
of the electron and there is a
similarity in the explanation of
gravity. The key points of
disagreement are the same as I have
with the rest of the group. Your
explanation of a fundamental particle
is not really an explanation. You
substitute a fundamental particle such
as an electron with two “basic
particles”. Have we made any progress
or did we just double the problem?
What is your basic particles made of?
What is the physics behind the force
of attraction between the particles?
What is the physics behind an electric
field? How does your model create de
Broglie waves? How does your model
create a gravitational field (curved
spacetime)? Can you derive the
Coulomb law and Newtonian
gravitational equation from your
model? <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">These
might seem like unfair questions, but
my model does all of these things. All
it requires is the reader accept the
fact that the vacuum possesses
activity which can be characterized as
a type of energy density that is not
observable (no rest mass or
momentum). This is no different that
accepting that QED calculations should
be believed when they assume vacuum
energy or that zero point energy
really exists. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Albrecht</span></b><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">,
perhaps I have come on too strong, but
I have decided to take a firmer
stand. You just happen to be the
first person that I contrast to my
model. I am actually happy to discuss
the scientific details in a less
confrontational way. I just wanted to
make an initial point.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John
M.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style: solid none
none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225,
225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding:
3pt 0in 0in;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b
class=""><span style="color:
windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span
style="color: windowtext;"
class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;">mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dr.
Albrecht Giese<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday,
September 11, 2015 9:52 AM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[General] research papers</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Dear John Macken,<br
class="">
<br class="">
I would like to answer a specific topic
in your mail below. You write "... would
have particular relevance to the concept
that the Higgs field is needed to give
inertia to fermions".<br class="">
<br class="">
We should not overlook that even
mainstream physicists working on
elementary particles admit that the
Higgs theory is not able to explain
inertia. I give you as a reference:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 3pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; text-align:
justify;"><span class="" lang="EN-GB">>Steven
D. Brass, The cosmological constant
puzzle, Journal of Physics G, Nuclear
and Particle Physics 38, 4(2011)
43201< ,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">which
has the result that the Higgs field,
which causes inertia according to the
theory, is by at least 56 orders of
magnitude too small to explain the
mass of the elementary particles.
(Another weakness is the fact that the
Higgs theory does not tell us the mass
of any elementary particle even if all
other parameters are known.)<br
class="">
<br class="">
As you may remember, in our meeting I
have presented a model explaining
inertia which does not only work as a
general idea but provides very precise
results for the mass of leptons. The
mass is classically deduced from the
size of a particle. It also explains
the mass of quarks, but here the
verification is more difficult, due to
the lack of measurements. In addition
I have shown that the model also
explains the (dynamic) mass of
photons, if the size of a photon is
related to its wavelength.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
You may find details in the
proceedings of our San Diego meeting,
but also on the following web sites:<br
class="">
<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ag-physics.org/rmass"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">www.ag-physics.org/rmass</a><br
class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ag-physics.org/electron"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">www.ag-physics.org/electron</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>.<br
class="">
<br class="">
You may also find the sites by Google
search entering the string "origin of
mass". You will find it on position 1
or 2 of the list, where it has
constantly been during the past 12
years.<br class="">
<br class="">
If you have any questions about it,
please ask me. I will be happy about
any discussion.<br class="">
<br class="">
With best regards<br class="">
Albrecht Giese<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Am
04.09.2015 um 18:40 schrieb John
Macken:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Martin,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I
wanted to remind you that I think
that you should update your article
“Light Is Heavy” to include the
mathematical proof that confined
light has exactly the same inertia
as particles with equal energy.
Accelerating a reflecting box causes
different photon pressure which
results in a net inertial force. I
already reference your Light Is
Heavy article in my book, but
expanding the article would be even
better. An expanded article would
have particular relevance to the
concept that the Higgs field is
needed to give inertia to fermions.
The Higgs field is not needed to
give inertia to confined light.
Furthermore, confined light exerts
exactly the correct inertia and
kinetic energy, even at relativistic
conditions. I have not seen a proof
that the Higgs field gives exactly
the correct amount of inertia or
kinetic energy to fermions. Any
particle model that includes either
a confined photon or confined waves
in spacetime propagating at the
speed of light gets inertia and
kinetic energy from the same
principles as confined light in a
reflecting box.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">John
M.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style: solid none
none; border-top-color: rgb(225,
225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt;
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class=""><b class="">From:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;">mailto:general-bounces+john=macken.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mark,
Martin van der<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday,
September 04, 2015 6:34 AM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nature
of Light and Particles - General
Discussion<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org></a></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[General]
research papers<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Dear all,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">My recent (and old) work
can be found on Researchgate:</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Van_der_Mark/publications"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Van_der_Mark/publications</a></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">In particular you will find
the most recent work:</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0in;
margin-top: 0in;" class="" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">On the
nature of “stuff” and the hierarchy
of forces<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Quantum
mechanical probability current as
electromagnetic 4-current from
topological EM fields<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Very best regards,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 10pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Martin</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="" lang="DE">Dr. Martin B. van
der Mark</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">Principal Scientist,
Minimally Invasive Healthcare</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="color: navy;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">Philips Research Europe -
Eindhoven</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">High Tech Campus, Building
34 (WB2.025)</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">Prof. Holstlaan 4</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">5656 AE Eindhoven, The
Netherlands</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;"
class="">Tel: +31 40 2747548</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
text-align: center;" align="center"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">
<hr class="" size="3" width="100%"
align="center"></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
color: gray;" class="">The
information contained in this
message may be confidential and
legally protected under applicable
law. The message is intended solely
for the addressee(s). If you are not
the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any use,
forwarding, dissemination, or
reproduction of this message is
strictly prohibited and may be
unlawful. If you are not the
intended recipient, please contact
the sender by return e-mail and
destroy all copies of the original
message.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">phys@a-giese.de</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><a href=<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Click here to unsubscribe<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""></a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
text-align: center;" align="center"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">
<hr style="color: rgb(144, 144, 144);"
class="" noshade="noshade" size="1"
width="99%" align="center"></span></div>
<table class="MsoNormalTable"
style="border-collapse: collapse;"
border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0">
<tbody class="">
<tr class="">
<td style="padding: 0in 11.25pt 0in
6pt;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"
class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><span
style="border: 1pt solid
windowtext; padding: 0in;
text-decoration: none;"
class=""><span
id="cid:part14.06070503.06030006@nascentinc.com"
class=""><Mail
Attachment.jpeg></span></span></a></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</td>
<td style="padding: 0.75pt;"
class="">
<p style="margin-right: 0in;
margin-left: 0in; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(61, 77,
90);" class="">Diese E-Mail
wurde von Avast
Antivirus-Software auf Viren
geprüft.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">www.avast.com</a></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in
12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
text-align: center;" align="center"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">
<hr style="color: rgb(144, 144, 144);"
class="" noshade="noshade" size="1"
width="99%" align="center"></span></div>
<table class="MsoNormalTable"
style="border-collapse: collapse;"
border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody class="">
<tr class="">
<td style="padding: 0in 11.25pt 0in
6pt;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><span style="border:
1pt solid windowtext;
padding: 0in;
text-decoration: none;"
class=""><span
id="cid:part14.06070503.06030006@nascentinc.com"
class=""><Mail
Attachment.jpeg></span></span></a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</td>
<td style="padding: 0.75pt;" class="">
<p style="margin-right: 0in;
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(61, 77,
90);" class="">Diese E-Mail
wurde von Avast
Antivirus-Software auf Viren
geprüft.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">www.avast.com</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<hr style="border: none; color: rgb(144, 144,
144); background-color: rgb(176, 176, 176);
height: 1px; width: 1280.0625px;" class="">
<table style="border-collapse: collapse; border:
none;" class="">
<tbody class="">
<tr class="">
<td style="border: none; padding: 0px 15px
0px 8px;" class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"
alt="Avast logo" class="" border="0"></a></td>
<td class="">
<p style="margin-right: 0in;
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: Calibri, Verdana, Arial,
Helvetica; color: rgb(61, 77, 90);"
class="">Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast
Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="">www.avast.com</a></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br class="">
<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wolf@nascentinc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Wolf@nascentinc.com</a>
<a href=<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>>
Click here to unsubscribe
</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">If
you no longer wish to receive communication from
the Nature of Light and Particles General
Discussion List at<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com">richgauthier@gmail.com</a></a><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a
href="</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/richgauthier%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/richgauthier%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a><span
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">"></span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class="">Click
here to unsubscribe</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float:
none; display: inline !important;" class=""></a></span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</blockquote>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<hr style="border:none; color:#909090;
background-color:#B0B0B0; height: 1px; width: 99%;"
class="">
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;border:none;"
class="">
<tbody class="">
<tr class="">
<td style="border:none;padding:0px 15px 0px 8px"
class=""> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" class="">
<img moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"
alt="Avast logo" class="" border="0"> </a> </td>
<td class="">
<p style="color:#3d4d5a;
font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica";
font-size:12pt;" class=""> Diese E-Mail wurde
von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
class="">www.avast.com</a> </p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</blockquote>
<br>
<br /><br />
<hr style='border:none; color:#909090; background-color:#B0B0B0; height: 1px; width: 99%;' />
<table style='border-collapse:collapse;border:none;'>
<tr>
<td style='border:none;padding:0px 15px 0px 8px'>
<a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">
<img border=0 src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" alt="Avast logo" />
</a>
</td>
<td>
<p style='color:#3d4d5a; font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica"; font-size:12pt;'>
Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
<br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">www.avast.com</a>
</p>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br />
</body>
</html>