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Richard,<br>
<br>
you have asked some questions about my electron model and I am glad
to answer them.<br>
<br>
Does my model explain the relativistic mass increase of the electron
at motion? Yes it does. According to my model the mass of an
electron is m=h(bar) / (R<sub>el</sub>*c), where R<sub>el</sub>
is the radius for the electron (which is equally valid for all
elementary particles). Now, as the binding field in the electron
contracts at motion by gamma (as initially found by Heaviside in
1888), also the size of the electron contracts at motion by gamma.
So the mass of the electron increases by gamma and also of course
its dynamical energy. - That is very simple and elementary. The
same considerations apply for the relativistic momentum of the
electron.<br>
<br>
(This is all described in my web site <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.ag-physics.org/rmass">www.ag-physics.org/rmass</a> ; you
can also find it via Google by the search string "origin of mass".
There it is within the first two positions of the list, where the
other one is of Frank Wilczek; since 10 years we both are struggling
to be the number one.)<br>
<br>
However, the contraction only occurs in the direction of motion. So
the cross section of the electron is not changed by the motion. And
in so far this contraction is not able to explain the small size of
the electron found in scattering experiments. - Another point is
that this small size was also found in scattering experiments at
energies smaller than 29 GeV. And, another determination, in the
Penning trap the size of the electron turns out to be < 10^-22 m.<br>
<br>
So there must be something in the electron which is much smaller
than the Compton wavelength. The model of two orbiting sub-particles
is an extremely simple model which also explains a lot else.<br>
<br>
Regarding the uncertainty relation of Heisenberg, I have a very
"technical" understanding of it as I have explained it in our
meeting. There is nothing imprecise within the electron itself, only
the measurement has limited precision. The reason is simple.
Normally an interaction of the electron is an interaction of its de
Broglie wave with another object. This wave is a wave packet, the
size of which is round about given by the size of the
electron-configuration (Compton wavelength); the size of a wave
packet is not very precisely defined. And on the other hand, the
frequency of a limited packet is not precisely measurable. The
relation of both limitations is well known by electric engineers,
the rule is sometimes called "Nyquist theorem". Now, as the
frequency is related to the energy of the particle, the Nyquist
theorem is identical with Heisenberg's uncertainty relation; only
the interpretation of quantum theorists is less technical. They
assume that the physical situation itself is imprecise, not only the
measurement. Here I do not follow the QM interpretation.<br>
<br>
Albrecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.09.2015 um 19:57 schrieb Richard
Gauthier:<br>
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<div class="">Albrecht, Al, Martin et al</div>
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<div class=""> One solution that I think John W, Martin, Chip (I
think), Vivian (as I remember) and I all agree on (I’m not sure
about John M’s electron model) with our electron models is that
the electron (as a circulating light-speed entity) decreases in
size with increasing speed of the electron. Just as a photon’s
wavelength (and presumably also its transverse size or extent)
decreases proportionally as 1/E with a photon’s energy E=hf, a
high energy relativistic electron (whose de Broglie wavelength
is nearly equal to the wavelength of a high energy photon having
the same total energy as the high energy electron) should also
decrease its lateral size similarly with its energy. The lateral
size of an electron decreases as 1/gamma according to John and
Martin due to energy considerations. In my model the radius of
the charged photon’s helical trajectory decreases as 1/gamma^2
but with a more detailed extended (internally superluminal)
model of the charged photon also decreases as 1/gamma . A
1/gamma decrease is enough to match the high energy (around
29GeV) scattering size of an electron found to be < 10^-18
meters even though the size of the resting electron (on the
order of the Compton wavelength) is around 10^-12 - 10^-13 m. So
this I think is a solved problem with respect to our models.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""> I don’t know if Albrecht’s electron model
decreases as 1/gamma with increasing electron speed. I think
not. But Albrecht’s model doesn’t I think take into account that
the electron’s total energy increases proportionally with gamma
and so the frequency of the 2 circulating mass-less particles
should also increase proportionally with gamma if the energy of
his model is to correspond to the experimentally measured moving
electron’s energy E= gamma mc^2 . That should require the radius
of the 2-particle orbit to decrease with his electron model’s
speed if the 2 orbiting particles are to continue to circulate
at light-speed. So Albrecht's model’s size should also decrease
at least as 1/gamma with its speed,and the need for the 2
massless particles in his model is unnecessary to explain the
small size of the electron at high speeds. As far as
conservation of momentum requiring 2 circulating particles, John
W.’s model proposes to solve this with his p-vot which causes
the photon to curve into a double loop and produce the
electron’s rest mass (as I understand it) and charge. But also
the delta x delta p > hbar/2 requirement of Heisenberg’s
uncertainty principle for detectable variability in position and
velocity means that probably for any Compton wavelength electron
model the amount of violation of conservation of momentum of a
single light-speed photon-like object looping around would not
be experimentally detectable (and so allowed since it is not
experimentally detected) as being (like a virtual particle in
QED) under the wire of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.</div>
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<div class=""> Richard</div>
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<div class="">On Sep 26, 2015, at 8:57 AM, John Duffield <<a
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wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Albrecht:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In case
Martin is tied up, here’s his 1997 paper:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="http://www.cybsoc.org/electron.pdf"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cybsoc.org/electron.pdf">http://www.cybsoc.org/electron.pdf</a></a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>co-authored
with John Williamson.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">As
regards electron size, it’s field is what it is. In<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital#Electron_properties"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">atomic orbitals</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>electrons
“exist as standing waves”. Standing wave, standing
field. We can diffract electrons. I think the electron
has size like a seismic wave has size. A seismic wave
might have an amplitude of 1 metre, and a wavelength
of a kilometre. But when it travels from A to B it
isn’t just the houses on top of the AB line that
shake. Houses shake a hundred miles away. And that
seismic wave is still detectable on the other side f
the Earth. It’s not totally different for an ocean
wave, see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Deep_water_wave.gif"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">this gif</a>. The amplitude might be 1m,
but that isn’t the size of the wave, nor is the
wavelength. The red test particles are still
circulating deep below the water.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Try to
imagine a wave going round and round, in a double
loop, then make it a tighter loop. Then have a look at<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_knot_theory"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">some knots</a>. Photon momentum is a
measure of resistance to change-in-motion for a wave
propagating linearly at c. When it’s a 511keV wave
going round and round at c, we don’t call it a photon
any more. But it still exhibits resistance to
change-in-motion. Only we don’t call it a momentum any
more. We call it mass. Make sure you read<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tardyon.de/mirror/hooft/hooft.htm"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">this</a>. It’s not the Nobel ‘t Hooft.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Regards<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">John
Duffield<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
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class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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windowtext;" class="" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">mailto:general-bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dr.
Albrecht Giese<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>26
September 2015 15:46<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
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class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[General] research papers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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class=""> </o:p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Hi
Martin, Al, and all,<br class="">
<br class="">
thank you all for your contributions.<br class="">
<br class="">
<u class="">Regarding the size of the electron:</u><br
class="">
<br class="">
As Al argued in his example of the sun: If the scattered
object is passing by without touching, the angular
distribution is independent of the size of the object
(for the 1/r^2 case). But that changes if the scattered
particle hits the body of the "ball". In a last
experiment in 2004 at DESY there was an experiment
performed in which electrons were scattered against
quarks (of a proton). The "common" size of both
particles resulted in a bit less than 10^-18 m. This
limit is given by the ratio of scattered events which
react different from the 1/r^2 rule. - In this
experiment it was also found that the electron is not
only subject to the electric interaction but also to the
strong interaction. I think that this is also important
for assessing electron models.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
This result of the size seems in clear conflict with the
evaluation of Schrödinger and Wilczek using the
uncertainty relation. Schroedinger made the following
statement to it: "Here I have got the following result
for the size of the electron (i.e. the Compton radius).
But we know that the electron is point-like. So, I must
have an error in my evaluation. However, I do not find
this error." So also for Schrödinger this was an
unsolvable conflict.<br class="">
<br class="">
I think that if the electron would be point like on the
one hand but oscillate far enough so as to fill the size
of the Compton wavelength, this would be a violation of
the conservation of momentum. Very clearly, a single
object cannot oscillate. That was also obvious for
Schrödinger and clearly his reason to call the internal
motion "Zitterbewegung". This is a word which does not
exist in the German vocabulary of physical terms. But
Schrödinger hesitated (by good reason) to use the German
word for "oscillation".<br class="">
<br class="">
On the other hand, if the electron is built by two
sub-particles, this solves the problem. The sub-particle
is point-like (at least with respect to its charge), but
both sub-particles orbit each other, which reserves the
momentum law, and the orbital radius is the reduced
Compton wavelength. - The argument of Martin that a
model of two sub-particles is "refuted by the
experiment" is often heart but not applicable to my
model. The usual argument is that a sufficient effort
has been done to decompose an electron by a strong
bombardment. This was also done here at DESY. But in my
model the sub-particles have no mass on their own (the
mass of the electron is caused by the dynamics of the
binding field). And in such a case one of the
sub-particles may be accelerated by an arbitrary amount,
the other one can always follow without any force coming
up. A decomposition by bombardment is therefore never
possible. - I have discussed this point with the
research director of DESY who was responsible for such
experiments, and after at first objecting it, he
admitted, that my model is not in conflict with these
experiments.<br class="">
<br class="">
Martin: Where do I find your paper of 1997?<br class="">
<br class="">
<u class="">Regarding dilation:</u><br class="">
<br class="">
There is a lot of clear indications for dilation. Two
examples:<br class="">
- The atomic clocks in the GPS satellites are slowed
down which has to be compensated for<br class="">
- In the Muon storage ring at CERN the lifetime of
these Muons was extended by the great amount ca. 250,
which was in precise agreement with special relativity.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Contraction, on the other hand, is in so far more a
point of interpretation as it cannot be directly
measured - in contrast to dilation.<br class="">
<br class="">
Best wishes<br class="">
Albrecht<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Am
26.09.2015 um 01:48 schrieb<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:<o:p
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Well!
The water I was trying to offer was: might it
not be a good idea to distinguish clearly and
specifically between the size of a point and
the size of the volumn in which this point is
insessently moving about. If your 97 paper
does that, my appologies. Does it? Forgive
me, I have over a couple hundred papers I'd
like to have read and digested laying about, I
do my best but still can't get to them all.
The chances are better, however, if a paper
attracts lots of attention because it
predicted something new to be observed
empirically. Did it? <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
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class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">BTW,
I did not imply that the work I refered to is
better. But, it (in Rowland's avantar) is
certainly as extensive as yours. In any case,
it potentially undermines your
"shot-from-the-hip" criticism of Albrecht's
program by introducing a feature to which
neither you nor John refered to, in my best
memory, at San Diego. My comment was not
intended ad hominum, but made on the
presumtion that you too have hundreds of
unread papers available. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
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class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Best,
Al<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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class=""></o:p></span></div>
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class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
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Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> Freitag,
25. September 2015 um 19:56 Uhr<br
class="">
<b class="">Von:</b> "Mark, Martin van
der"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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<b class="">An:</b> "Nature of Light and
Particles - General Discussion"<span
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<b class="">Betreff:</b> Re: [General]
research papers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Al,
just read what i wrote. It is not
shooting from the hip. I am refering
to actual experiments, all cited in
the paper i refered to. Further, you
are just repeating what i said
already. I can only bring you to the
water, i cannot make you drink. And
then you refer to other doubtfull
work, as id it were better. Good luck.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Regards,
Martin<br class="">
<br class="">
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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class="">
Op 25 sep. 2015 om 19:16 heeft "<a
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het volgende geschreven:<br class="">
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana,
sans-serif;" class="">Perhaps
it's my Texas background, but
I think I sense some "shoot'n
from the hip."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana,
sans-serif;" class="">You have
not done an experiment, but
(at best) a calculation based
on some hypothtical input of
your choise. Maybe it's good,
maybe not. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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style="font-size: 9pt;
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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style="font-size: 9pt;
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sans-serif;" class="">The Sun
scatters as a point only those
projectiles that don't get
close. So far, no scattering
off electons has gotten close
enough to engage any internal
structure, "they" say (I#ll
defer to experts up-to-date).
Nevertheless, electrons are
in constant motion at or near
the speed of light
(Zitterbewegung) and therefore
at the time scales of the
projectiles buzz around
(zittern) in a certain amout
of space, which seems to me
must manifest itself as if
there were spacially exteneded
structure within the
scattering cross-section. Why
not?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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style="font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Verdana,
sans-serif;" class="">Not to
defend Albrecht's model as he
describes it, but many folks
(say Peter Rowlands at
Liverpool, for example) model
elemtary particles in terms of
the partiicle itself
interacting with its induced
virtual image (denoted by
Peter as the "rest of the
universe"). This
"inducement" is a kind of
polarization effect. Every
charge repells all other like
charges and attracts all other
unlike charges resulting in
what can be modeled as a
virtual charge of the opposite
gender superimposed on itself
in the static approximation.
But, because the real
situation is fluid, the
virtual charge's motion is
delayed as caused by finite
light speed, so that the two
chase each other. Etc. Looks
something like Albrecht's
pairs.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 9pt;
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sans-serif;" class="">I too
havn't read your 97 paper yet,
but I bet it's unlikely that
you all took such
consideration into account.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Al <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Al, dear Albrecht,
dear all,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm
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style="font-size:
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paper John W and I
published in 1997, the
situation is explained
briefly but
adequately.</span><o:p
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<div style="margin: 0cm
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style="font-size:
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125);" class="">Clearly
Albrecht has not read
it or, perhaps he did
but does not want to
understand it because
it really destroys his
work. This is a double
pity, of course, but
we are talking
science, not
sentiment, and I do
not want to take away
anything from the
person you are
Albrecht.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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style="font-size:
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electron has a finite
size, of the oder of
the Compton
wavelength, but the
Coulomb interaction is
perfectly matched in
ANY experiment, which
means there are no
internal bits to the
electron and that it
behaves as a
point-LIKE scatterer,
not a to be mistaken
by a POINT as is done
most of the time. Note
that even the sun has
point-like scattering
for all comets that go
round it, its
gravitational field
seems to come from the
centre of the sun.
Until you hit other
bits. There are no
other bits for the
electron, but at very
high energy the
4-momentum exchange
combined with the
resolving power at
that high energy make
that a Compton-size
object CANNOT be
resolved in principle,
if and only if it is
of electromagnetic
origin.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm
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style="font-size:
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color: rgb(31, 73,
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electron is a single
thing, of
electromagnetic origin
only, there is NO
OTHER WAY to fit the
experimental results.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm
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style="font-size:
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125);" class="">Well,
maybe there is another
way, but I cannot see
it. Certainly it is
not two parts rotating
about each other,
because that is
refuted by experiment,
all those models can
go in the bin and are
a waste of time and
energy.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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Martin</span><o:p
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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<b class="">To:</b><span
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<b class="">Cc:</b><span
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
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class="">Shouldn't
a clear and
explicit
distinction
between the
"size" of the
electron and the
"extent" of its
Zitterbewegung
be made. My
best info,
perhaps not
up-to-date, is
that although
scattering
experiments put
an upper limit
on the size
(10^-19m), there
exists in fact
no evidence that
the electron has
any finite size
whatsoever.
This is in
contrast to the
space it
consumes with
its
Zitter-motion,
which is what
would be
calculated using
QM (Heisenberg
uncertanty
mostly).
Seems to me
that most of
what folks
theorize about
is the latter,
without saying
so, and perhaps
often without
even recognizing
it. However,
since the Zitter
volumn will
cause electrons
to be moving
targets, it must
also have some
effect on its
scatering
cross-section
too. I don't
know how this is
sorted out in
scattering
calculations---if
at all.
(Albrectht?)</span><o:p
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Best, Al</span><o:p
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<b class="">Von:</b> "Dr.
Albrecht
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Particles -
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<b class="">Betreff:</b> Re:
[General]
research
papers</span><o:p
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class="">Hello
Richard,<br
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<br class="">
according to
present
mainstream
physics the
size of the
electron is
not more than
10^-19 m. This
is concluded
from
scattering
experiments
where the size
of the
electric
charge is the
quantity of
influence.<br
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<br class="">
As present
mainstream
physics
(including the
QED of
Feynman)
assume that
the electron
has no
internal
structure and
that the
electric force
is the only
one effective,
this size is
identified
with the size
of the whole
electron. This
is in severe
conflict with
the
calculations
of Schrödinger
and of Wilczek
based on QM.<br
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<br class="">
I have the
impression
that several
of us
(including me)
have models of
the electron
which assume
some extension
roughly
compatible
with the QM
calculations.<br
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<br class="">
Some details
of my model
related to
this question:
Here the
electron is
built by 2
sub-particles
("basic
particles")
which orbit
each other at
c. The
electric force
is not the
only force
inside. The
radius
following from
the magnetic
moment is the
reduced
Compton
wavelength,
and the mass
of the
electron
follows with
high precision
from this
radius. At
motion the
size decreases
by the
relativistic
factor gamma,
and so the
mass increases
by this
factor. -
However there
was always a
point of a
certain
weakness in my
model: I could
not prove that
the electron
is built by
just 2
sub-particles
carrying 1/2
elementary
charge each.
Now Wilczek
writes in his
article that
in certain
circumstances
-
superconductivity
in the
presence of a
magnetic field
- the electron
is decomposed
into two
halves. This
is the result
of
measurements.
How can this
happen with a
point-like
particle? This
is a mystery
for Wilczek.
But in the
view of my
model it is no
mystery but
quite
plausible. It
only needs now
a quantitative
calculation of
this process
which I
presently do
not have.<br
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<br class="">
All the best
to you<br
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Albrecht<br
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Yes, all of
our electron
models here
have a radius
related to the
Compton
wavelength.
Dirac’s
zitterbewegung
amplitude is
1/2 of the
reduced
Compton
wavelength, or
hbar/2mc ,
which is the
radius of the
generic
circulating
charged
photon’s
trajectory in
my circulating
spin 1/2
charged photon
model for a
resting
electron. That
radius
decreases by a
factor of
gamma^2 in a
moving
electron. Does
yours?
Incorporating
a more
detailed spin
1/2 charged
photon model
with the
generic model
could bring
the model's
radius up to
the reduced
Compton
wavelength
hbar/mc.</span><o:p
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class="">On
Sep 22, 2015,
at 11:13 AM,
Dr. Albrecht
Giese <<a
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class="">Dear
Richard,<br
class="">
<br class="">
thank you for
this reference
to the article
of Frank
Wilczek.<br
class="">
<br class="">
He has a
quantum
mechanical
argument to
determine a
size for the
electron. It
is the
application of
the
uncertainty
relation to
the magnetic
moment of the
electron. The
result is as
you write: 2.4
x 10^-12 m,
which is the
Compton
wavelength of
the electron.<br
class="">
This is a bit
similar to the
way as Erwin
Schrödinger
has determined
the size of
the electron
using the
Dirac function
in 1930. There
Schrödinger
determined the
"amplitude of
the
zitterbewegung"
also applying
the
uncertainty
relation to
the rest
energy of the
electron. It
was "roughly"
10^-13 m,
which also
meant in his
words the
Compton
wavelength of
the electron.<br
class="">
<br class="">
In my electron
model its
radius is 3.86
x 10^-13 m,
which is
exactly the
"reduced"
Compton
wavelength.
But here it is
not an
expectation
value as in
the cases of
Wilczek and
Schrödinger
but the exact
radius of the
orbits of the
basic
particles.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Thank you
again and best
wishes<br
class="">
Albrecht<br
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class="">Am
21.09.2015 um
05:01 schrieb
Richard
Gauthier:</span><o:p
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class="">This
2013 Nature
comment “The
enigmatic
electron” by
Frank Wilczek
at <a
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worth a look.
He states that
due to QM
effects, the
size of the
electron is
about 2.4 x
10^-12 m,
which is
roughly in the
range of some
of our
electron
models.</span><o:p
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class="">On
Sep 16, 2015,
at 12:59 PM,
Wolfgang Baer
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class="">I
should add you
sent me
Main-2014.pdf
and that may
be the one not
available on
the web sight.</span><br
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looking for a
similar one
that included
the other
topics as
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you do not
have it, its
OK, I just
like reading
from paper.</span><br
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wishes,</span><br
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<pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class="">Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class="">E-mail <span style="color: purple;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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9/14/2015
12:45 PM, Dr.
Albrecht Giese
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class="">John,<br
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<br class="">
You wrote a
long text, so
I will enter
my answers
within your
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14.09.2015 um
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David and
Albrecht,</span><o:p
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class="">It
was through
the contact
with this
group that I
was finally
able to
understand the
disconnect
that existed
between my
idea of vacuum
energy and the
picture that
others were
obtaining from
my use of the
term
“energy”.
Many of the
mysteries of
quantum
mechanics and
general
relativity can
be traced to
the fact that
fields exist
and yet we do
not have a
clear idea of
what they
are. My
answer is that
we live within
a sea of
vacuum
activity which
is the
physical basis
of the
mysterious
fields. I
combine all
fields into a
single
“spacetime
field” which
is the basis
of all
particles,
fields and
forces.<span
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class="">, you
asked about
the words<span
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quantizing. I
did a word
search and I
did not use
the word
“quantizing”
in either the
email or the
attachment to
my last post.
However, the
paper<span
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Spacetime: The
New Aether</i><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>submitted to SPIE as part of the
conference
presentation,
used and
defines the
word
“quantization”.
This paper was
attached to
previous
posts, and is
available at
my website: <span
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class="">: I
can combine my
answer to you
with the
clarification
for David of
the word
“quantify” and
its
derivatives.
I claim that
my model of
the universe
“quantifies”
particles and
fields. I
will start my
explanation of
this concept
by giving
examples of
models which
do not
“quantify”
particles and
fields. There
have been
numerous
particle
models from
this group and
others which
show an
electron model
as two balls
orbiting
around a
center of
mass. Most of
the group
identifies
these balls as
photons but
Albrecht names
the two balls
“charges of
the strong
force”. Both
photons and
charges of
strong force
are just
words. To be
quantifiable,
it is
necessary to
describe the
model of the
universe which
gives the
strong force
or the
electromagnetic
force. What
exactly are
these? How
much energy
and energy
density does
one charge of
strong force
have? Can a
photon occupy
a volume
smaller than a
reduced
Compton
wavelength in
radius? Does a
muon have the
same basic
strong force
charge but
just rotate
faster? Are
the charges of
strong force
or photons
made of any
other more
basic
component?</span><o:p
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<span
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class="">Regarding
charge: This
is a basic
entity in my
model. At some
point a
physical
theory has to
start. My
model starts
with the
assumption
that a charge
is an "atomic"
entity, so
possibly
point-like,
which emits
exchange
particles (in
this point I
follow the
general
understanding
of QM). There
are two types
of charges:
the electric
ones which we
are very
familiar with,
having two
signs, and the
strong ones,
which are not
so obvious in
everyday
physics; they
also have two
signs. In the
physical
nature we find
the charges of
the strong
force only in
configurations
made of those
different
signs, never
isolated. This
is in contrast
to the
electric
charges.<span
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<br class="">
The basic
particles are
composed of a
collection of
charges of the
strong force
so that both
basic
particles are
bound to each
other in a way
that they keep
a certain
distance. This
distance
characterizes
an elementary
particle. In
several (or
most) cases
there is
additionally
an electric
charge in the
basic
particle.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The two
parameters I
have to set -
or to find -
are the shape
of the strong
field in the
elementary
particle. Here
I have defined
an equation
describing a
minimum
multi-pole
field to make
the elementary
particle
stable. The
other setting
is the
strength of
this field.
This strength
can be found
e.g. using the
electron
because the
electron is
well known and
precisely
measured. This
field is then
applicable for
all leptons as
well as for
all quarks. It
is also
applicable for
the photon
with the
restriction
that there may
be a
correction
factor caused
by the fact
that the
photon is not
fundamental in
the sense of
this model but
composed of
(maybe) two
other
particles.<span
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<br class="">
The size of
the photon is
(at least
roughly)
described by
its
wavelength.
This follows
from the mass
formula
resulting from
my model, as
with this
assumption the
(dynamic) mass
of the photon
is the correct
result.<br
class="">
<br class="">
As I wrote,
the results of
this model are
very precise,
the prove is
in practice
only limited
by limitations
of the
measurement
processes.</span><span
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class="">I
could go on
with more
questions
until it is
possible to
calculate the
properties of
an electron
from the
answers. So
far both
models lack
any
quantifiable
details except
perhaps a
connection to
the particle’s
Compton
frequency. I
am not
demanding
anything more
than I have
already done.
For example, I
cannot
calculate the
electron’s
Compton
frequency or
the fine
structure
constant.
However, once
I install
these into the
model that I
create, and
combine this
with the
properties of
the spacetime
field, then I
get an
electron.
Installing a
muon’s Compton
frequency
generates a
muon with the
correct
electric
field,
electrostatic
force,
curvature of
spacetime,
gravitational
force and de
Broglie
waves. I am
able to
quantify the
distortion of
spacetime
produced by a
charged
particle, an
electric field
and a photon.
I am able to
test these
models and
show that they
generate both
the correct
energy density
and generate a
black hole
when we reach
the distortion
limits of the
spacetime
field.<span
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class="">In my
model the
Compton
frequency of
the electron
(and of the
other leptons)
follows
directly from
the size of
the particle
and the fact
that the basic
particle move
with c. The
fine structure
constant tells
us the
relation of
the electric
force to the
strong force.
This
explanation
follows very
directly from
this model,
however was
also found by
other
theorists
using algebra
of particle
physics.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Another result
of the model
is that
Planck's
constant -
multiplied by
c - is the
field constant
of the strong
force. Also
this is the
result of
other models
(however not
of mainstream
physics).<span
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class="">My
model starts
with a
quantifiable
description of
the properties
of spacetime.
The spacetime
model has a
specific
impedance
which
describes the
properties of
waves that can
exist in
spacetime.
Then the
amplitude and
frequency of
the waves in
spacetime is
quantified.
This
combination
allows the
energy density
of spacetime
to be
calculated and
this agrees
with the
energy density
of zero point
energy. The
particle
models are
then defined
as ½<span
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class="apple-converted-space"> </span>units of quantized angular
momentum
existing in
the spacetime
field. This
model is
quantifiable
as to size,
structure,
energy, etc.
Also the fact
that the rate
of time and
proper volume
is being
modulated, it
is possible to
calculate the
effect that
such a
structure
would have on
the
surrounding
volume of
spacetime. It
is possible to
calculate the
effect if the
spacetime-based
particle model
would have if
the coupling
constant was
equal to 1
(Planck
charge), To
get charge<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">e</i>, it is necessary
to manually
install the
fine structure
constant. <span
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class="">How
do you get the
value<span
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class="">½<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>ħ</span><span
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class="">for
the angular
momentum? What
is the
calculation
behind it? - I
understand
that in your
model the
electric
charge is a
parameter
deduced from
other facts.
Which ones?
From alpha?
How do you
then get
alpha?<br
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<br class="">
I personally
have in so far
a problem with
all
considerations
using
spacetime as I
have quite
thoroughly
investigated
how Einstein
came to the
idea of this
4-dimentional
construct. His
main
motivation was
that he wanted
in any case to
avoid an
ether. And in
his
discussions
with Ernst
Mach he had to
realize that
he was running
into a lot of
problems with
this
assumption. He
could solve
these problems
in general by
his "curved
spacetime".
But this
concept still
causes logical
conflicts
which are
eagerly
neglected by
the followers
of Einstein's
relativity
(and which do
not exist in
the Lorentzian
way of
relativity).<span
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class="">The
quantifiable
properties of
spacetime
imply that
there should
be boundary
conditions
which imply
that the waves
in spacetime
should be
nonlinear.
When the
nonlinear
component is
calculated and
treated as
separate
waves, the
characteristics
of the
particle’s
gravitational
field are
obtained
(correct:
curvature,
effect on the
rate of time,
force and
energy
density).</span><o:p
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class="">In my
last post I
have given an
answer about
the factor of
10<sup
class="">120</sup><span
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energy density
of the
universe and
the
non-observable
energy of the
universe.
This
non-observable
energy density
is absolutely
necessary for
QED
calculations,
zero point
energy, the
uncertainty
principle,
Lamb shift,
spontaneous
emission and
quantum
mechanics in
general. This
non-observable
energy density
is responsible
for the
tremendously
large
impedance of
spacetime c<sup
class="">3</sup>/G.
Since I can
also show how
this
non-observable
energy density
is obtainable
from
gravitational
wave
equations, it
is necessary
for<span
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class="">you</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>to show how all these effects can
be achieved
without
spacetime
being a single
field with
this
non-observable
energy
density. In
fact, the name
non-observable
only applied
to direct
observation.
The indirect
evidence is
everywhere.
It forms the
basis of the
universe and
therefore is
the
“background
noise” of the
universe. For
this reason it
is not
directly
observable
because we can
only detect
differences in
energy. The
constants<span
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class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i
class="">G</i>,<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">ħ</i><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">ε<sub class="">o</sub></i><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>testify that spacetime is not an
empty void. <span
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class="">Up to
now I did not
find any
necessity for
zero-point
energy. And I
find it a
dangerous way
to assume
physical facts
which cannot
be observed.
The greatest
argument in
favour of this
energy is its
use in Feynman
diagrams. But
is there
really no
other way? I
have a lecture
of Feynman
here where he
states that
his formalism
has good
results. But
that he has no
physical
understanding
why it is
successful. In
my
understanding
of the
development of
physics this
is a weak
point.<br
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<br class="">
The
discrepancy of
10^120 between
assumed and
observed
energy is
taken as a
great and
unresolved
problem by
present main
stream
physics. Those
representatives
would have all
reason to find
a solution to
keep present
QM clean. But
they are not
able to. This
causes me some
concern.<br
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<br class="">
The constants
you have
listed: c is
the speed of
light what
ever the
reason for it
is. (I have a
model, but it
is a bit
speculative.)
But it has
nothing to do
with energy. G
is the
gravitational
constant which
is as little
understood as
gravity
itself.
Planck's
constant I
have
explained, it
is (with c)
the field
constant of
the strong
force (any
force has to
be described
by a field
constant); and<span
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the field
constant of
the electric
force with a
similar
background.<span
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class="">If
spacetime was
an empty void,
why should
particles have
a speed limit
of<span
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class="">c</i>?
For a thought
experiment,
suppose that
two spaceships
leave earth
going opposite
directions and
accelerate
until they
reach a speed
of 0.75<span
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class="">c</i><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>relative to the earth. The earth
bound observer
sees them
separating at
1.5<span
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class="">c</i><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>but the rules of relativistic
addition of
velocity has a
spaceship
observer
seeing the
other
spaceship
moving away at
only 0.96<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">c</i>. How is this
possible if
spacetime is
an empty
void. My
model of the
universe
answers this
because all
particles,
fields and
forces are
also made of
the spacetime
field and they
combine to
achieve
Lorentz
transformations
which affects
ruler length
and clocks.
None of this
can happen
unless
spacetime is
filled with
dipole waves
in spacetime
and everything
is made of the
single
component.
The universe
is only
spacetime.<span
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class="">If
two spaceships
move at 0.75 c
in opposite
direction, the
observer at
rest may add
these speeds
and may get
1.5 c as a
result. Why
not? If an
observer in
one of the
spaceships
measures the
relative speed
of the other
spaceship, the
result will be
less then c
(as you write
it). The
reason is the
well known
fact that the
measurement
tools
accessible for
the observer
in the ship
are changed
and run
differently at
this high
speed. The
reason for
these changes
is for time
dilation the
internal speed
c in
elementary
particles. For
contraction it
is the
contraction of
fields at
motion which
is a fact
independent of
relativity
(and which was
already known
before
Einstein). In
addition when
the speed of
another object
is to be
measured
several clocks
are to be used
positioned
along the
measurement
section. These
clocks are
de-synchronized
in relation to
the clocks of
the observer
at rest. These
phenomena
together cause
the
measurement
result < c.
You find these
considerations
in papers and
books about
the Lorentzian
interpretation
of relativity.
So, following
Lorentz, there
is no reason
to assume
Einstein's
spacetime.</span><span
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class="">Perhaps
I should read
your book. But
that chould
take a lot of
time, I am
afraid.<br
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<br class="">
Albrecht<span
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class="">Dr.
Albrecht Giese
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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<b class="">To:</b><span
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'Nature of
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class="">Hello
John,<br
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<br class="">
great that you
have looked so
deeply into
the model
which I have
presented.
Thank you.<br
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There are some
questions
which I can
answer quite
easily. I
think that
this model in
fact explains
several points
just in
contrast to
main stream
physics. In
standard
physics the
electron (just
as an example)
is a
point-like
object without
any internal
structure. So,
how can a
magnetic
moment be
explained? How
can the spin
be explained?
How can the
mass be
explained? The
position of
main stream
physics is:
That cannot be
explained but
is subject to
quantum
mechanics. And
the fact that
it cannot be
explained
shows how
necessary QM
is.<br
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In contrast,
if the
electron is
assumed to
have a
structure like
in the model
presented,
these
parameters can
be explained
in a classical
way, and this
explanation is
not merely a
qualitative
one but has
precise
quantitative
results.<br
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To your
questions in
detail:<br
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The fact of
two basic
particles is
necessary to
explain the
fact of an
oscillation
and to fulfil
the
conservation
of momentum. A
single object
(as
point-like)
cannot
oscillate. The
basic
particles are
composed of
charges of the
strong force.
In this model
the strong
force is
assumed to be
the universal
force in our
world
effective on
all particles.
A charge is a
fundamental
object in the
scope of this
model. There
are two kinds
of charges
according to
the two kinds
of forces in
our world, the
strong one and
the electric
one. The weak
force is in
fact the
strong force
but has a
smaller
coupling
constant
caused by
geometric
circumstances.
And gravity is
not a force at
all but a
refraction
process, which
is so a side
effect of the
other forces.
And, by the
way, gravity
is not curved
spacetime.
This is not
necessary, and
besides of
this,
Einstein's
spacetime
leads to
logical
conflicts.<br
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<br class="">
The forces
(i.e. strong
force) inside
an elementary
particle are
configured in
a way that at
a certain
distance there
is a potential
minimum and in
this way the
distance
between the
basic
particles is
enforced. So,
this field has
attracting and
repulsive
components.
Outside the
elementary
particle the
attracting
forces
dominate to
make the
particle a
stable one.
And those
field parts
outside have
an opposite
sign. Now, as
the basic
particles are
orbiting each
other, the
outside field
is an
alternating
field (of the
strong forth).
If this field
propagates, it
is builds a
wave. This
wave is
described by
the
Schrödinger
equation and
fulfils the
assumptions of
de Broglie.<span
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With the
assumption of
two basic
particles
orbiting at c
and subject to
strong force,
the parameters
mass, magnetic
moment, spin
result from it
numerically
correctly
without
further
assumptions.<br
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This model
does not need
any vacuum
energy or
virtual
particles.
Those are
simply not
necessary and
they are
anyway very
speculative
because not
directly
observable.
And in the
case of the
vacuum energy
of the
universe we
are confronted
with the
discrepancy of
10^120 which
you also
mention in
your paper
attached to
your mail.<br
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<br class="">
The Coulomb
law can be
easily
explained by
the assumption
(standard at
quantum
mechanics)
that a force
is realized by
exchange
particles. The
density of
exchange
particles and
so the
strength of
the field
diminishes by
1/r^2, which
is simple
geometry.<span
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So John, this
is my
position. Now
I am curious
about your
objections of
further
questions.<br
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class="">I
have attached
a one page
addition that
I will make to
my book. It is
a preliminary
explanation of
my model of
the spacetime
field. It has
been very
helpful to me
to interact
with this
group because
I now
understand
better the key
stumbling
block for some
scientists to
accept my
thesis.
Therefore I
have written
the attached
introduction
to ease the
reader of my
book into my
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class=""> <span
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on several
points which
include the
size of the
electron and
there is a
similarity in
the
explanation of
gravity. The
key points of
disagreement
are the same
as I have with
the rest of
the group.
Your
explanation of
a fundamental
particle is
not really an
explanation.
You substitute
a fundamental
particle such
as an electron
with two
“basic
particles”.
Have we made
any progress
or did we just
double the
problem? What
is your basic
particles made
of? What is
the physics
behind the
force of
attraction
between the
particles?
What is the
physics behind
an electric
field? How
does your
model create
de Broglie
waves? How
does your
model create a
gravitational
field (curved
spacetime)?
Can you derive
the Coulomb
law and
Newtonian
gravitational
equation from
your model? <span
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class="">These
might seem
like unfair
questions, but
my model does
all of these
things. All it
requires is
the reader
accept the
fact that the
vacuum
possesses
activity which
can be
characterized
as a type of
energy density
that is not
observable (no
rest mass or
momentum).
This is no
different that
accepting that
QED
calculations
should be
believed when
they assume
vacuum energy
or that zero
point energy
really
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class="">,
perhaps I have
come on too
strong, but I
have decided
to take a
firmer stand.
You just
happen to be
the first
person that I
contrast to my
model. I am
actually happy
to discuss the
scientific
details in a
less
confrontational
way. I just
wanted to make
an initial
point.</span><o:p
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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I would like
to answer a
specific topic
in your mail
below. You
write "...
would have
particular
relevance to
the concept
that the Higgs
field is
needed to give
inertia to
fermions".<br
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<br class="">
We should not
overlook that
even
mainstream
physicists
working on
elementary
particles
admit that the
Higgs theory
is not able to
explain
inertia. I
give you as a
reference:<span
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class="">>Steven
D. Brass, The
cosmological
constant
puzzle,
Journal of
Physics G,
Nuclear and
Particle
Physics 38,
4(2011)
43201< ,</span><o:p
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class="">which
has the result
that the Higgs
field, which
causes inertia
according to
the theory, is
by at least 56
orders of
magnitude too
small to
explain the
mass of the
elementary
particles.
(Another
weakness is
the fact that
the Higgs
theory does
not tell us
the mass of
any elementary
particle even
if all other
parameters are
known.)<br
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<br class="">
As you may
remember, in
our meeting I
have presented
a model
explaining
inertia which
does not only
work as a
general idea
but provides
very precise
results for
the mass of
leptons. The
mass is
classically
deduced from
the size of a
particle. It
also explains
the mass of
quarks, but
here the
verification
is more
difficult, due
to the lack of
measurements.
In addition I
have shown
that the model
also explains
the (dynamic)
mass of
photons, if
the size of a
photon is
related to its
wavelength.<span
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<br class="">
You may find
details in the
proceedings of
our San Diego
meeting, but
also on the
following web
sites:<br
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</span><span
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<br class="">
You may also
find the sites
by Google
search
entering the
string "origin
of mass". You
will find it
on position 1
or 2 of the
list, where it
has constantly
been during
the past 12
years.<br
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<br class="">
If you have
any questions
about it,
please ask me.
I will be
happy about
any
discussion.<br
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<br class="">
With best
regards<br
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Albrecht Giese</span><br
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class="">I
wanted to
remind you
that I think
that you
should update
your article
“Light Is
Heavy” to
include the
mathematical
proof that
confined light
has exactly
the same
inertia as
particles with
equal energy.
Accelerating a
reflecting box
causes
different
photon
pressure which
results in a
net inertial
force. I
already
reference your
Light Is Heavy
article in my
book, but
expanding the
article would
be even
better. An
expanded
article would
have
particular
relevance to
the concept
that the Higgs
field is
needed to give
inertia to
fermions. The
Higgs field is
not needed to
give inertia
to confined
light.
Furthermore,
confined light
exerts exactly
the correct
inertia and
kinetic
energy, even
at
relativistic
conditions. I
have not seen
a proof that
the Higgs
field gives
exactly the
correct amount
of inertia or
kinetic energy
to fermions.
Any particle
model that
includes
either a
confined
photon or
confined waves
in spacetime
propagating at
the speed of
light gets
inertia and
kinetic energy
from the same
principles as
confined light
in a
reflecting
box.</span><o:p
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