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General [general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] on behalf of davidmathes8@yahoo.com [davidmathes8@yahoo.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2015 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] To Infinity and Beyond: zero phase index?</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Rich, Martin et al,</span></p>
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Why is a curving photon charged?<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">It isn't. we had a whole thread on this! Only a complete (double - not single) loop exhibits
charge.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Shouldn't there be a radiation emission of some sort
: ionizing or non-ionizing.<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">No. No radiation if charge is not accelerated. There is, therefore, no charge going round
and round. Charge is a result of this (the going round and roundness - double looped). It is a place where radiations can be caught and weighed. Where radiation may be absorbed into rest massive system. Think about it: irrespective of my model or not, this
is true.</span><span style="font-family:
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Ionizing radiation is typically particles: alpha,
beta, gamma and oddly enough, UV and Xray.<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
Ionising just means it has got enough energy to make ions. More than about an eV then.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Non-iozizing is usually EM: DC to light and beyond,
gamma, blackbody, thermal except for UV and Xray.<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Not gamma. Light becomes "ionising" when it has enough energy to form ions. In this sense
blue light is ionisisng and so is green. Otherwise no "greens". Convention (and convention only) draws the line at about UV.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">And why is UV and Xray ionizing, while the rest of
the EM spectrum not ionizing?<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
Ionising just means it has got enough energy to make ions. More than about an eV then.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Cosmic radiation is another matter. (bad pun)<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">true!</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Actually, I was thinking of braking radiation and
cyclotron radiation (in every 720 zbw model).</span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">In the electron models, is there any sign of Cherenkov
or Askaryan radiation? I haven't seen any so far.<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Of course not. There are no accelerated charges.</span><span style="font-family:
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"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Another odd observation is bremstrallung? Why doesn't
the photonic electron experiencing bremstrallung? <br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
It does : if it is decelerated quickly. It has the elementary charge.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
<br>
If it does, where does it go? Is it converted?<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
No radiation from non-accelerated charge.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Most importantly, why isn't there synchrotron radiation?
Does this mean the photon is uncharge? Or is the photonic electron an example of a non-charged particle on a curve path producing radiation?
<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Same reason there is no radiation from an electron in an atom. This is, often, wrongly ascribed
to "quantum" effects, but it really because the electron is really stationary. Quantum mechanically stationary. Also really stationary.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">In turn, this makes me wonder how the photon responds
below Planck dimensions to Abraham-Lorentz force? </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">For both quantum and
relativistic solution, see </span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#252525;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Abraham–Lorentz–Dirac–Langevin equation.<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Real photons are nowhere near the Plank dimension. Mu.</span><span style="font-family:
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I do apologize for asking questions instead of not
providing a robust informative discussion. <br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><br>
So you should! (but do not stop!).</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> </span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#252525;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best,</span><span style="font-family:
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
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</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
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regards, John W.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";mso-fareast-font-family:
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2015 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] To Infinity and Beyond: zero phase index?<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8592"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9662">Rich, Martin et al,</span></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8460">Why is a curving photon charged?<br>
<br>
<font color="0000FF">It isn't. we had a whole thread on this! Only a complete (double - not single) loop
<font color="0000FF">exhibits</font> charge.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8460">Shouldn't there be a radiation emission of some sort : ionizing or non-ionizing.<br>
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<font color="0000FF">No. No radiation if charge is not accelerated. There is<font color="0000FF">, therefore, no charge going round and round. Charge is a result of th<font color="0000FF">is<font color="0000FF"> (the going round and roundness - double looped).
It is a place where radiations can be caught an<font color="0000FF">d </font>weighed. Where radiation
<font color="0000FF">may be absorbed into rest massive system. Think abou<font color="0000FF">t it: irrespective of my model or not<font color="0000FF">, this is true.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8460" dir="ltr">Ionizing radiation is typically particles: alpha, beta, gamma and oddly enough, UV and Xray.<br>
<font color="0000FF"><br>
Ionising just means it has got enough energy to make ions. More than about an eV then.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8460" dir="ltr">Non-iozizing is usually EM: DC to light and beyond, gamma, blackbody, thermal except for UV and Xray.<br>
<br>
<font color="0000FF">Not gamma. Light becomes "ionising" when it has enough energy to form ions. In this sense blue light is ionisisng and so is green. Otherwise no "greens". Convention (and convention only) draws the line at about UV.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8757">And why is UV and Xray ionizing, while the rest of the EM spectrum not ionizing?<br>
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<font color="0000FF"><br>
Ionising just means it has got enough energy to make ions. More than about an eV then.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797">Cosmic radiation is another matter. (bad pun)<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797">Actually, I was thinking of braking radiation and cyclotron radiation (in every 720 zbw model).</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797" dir="ltr">In the electron models, is there any sign of Cherenkov or Askaryan radiation? I haven't seen any so far.<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797" dir="ltr">Another odd observation is bremstrallung? Why doesn't the photonic electron experiencing bremstrallung?
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It does : if it is decelerated quickly. It has the elementary charge.</font><br>
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If it does, where does it go? Is it converted?<br>
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No radiation from non-accelerated charge.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797" dir="ltr">Most importantly, why isn't there synchrotron radiation? Does this mean the photon is uncharge? Or is the photonic electron an example of a non-charged particle on a curve path producing radiation?
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<font color="0000FF">Same reason there is no radiation from an electron in an atom. This is, often, wrongly ascribed to "quantum" effects, but it really because the electron is really stationary. Quantum mechanically stationary. Also really stationary.<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8797" dir="ltr"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9593" size="3">In turn, this makes me wonder how the photon responds below Planck dimensions to Abraham-Lorentz force? </font><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9616" style="font-size:medium">For
both quantum and relativistic solution, see </span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9449" class="" style="color:rgb(37,37,37); font-family:sans-serif">Abraham–Lorentz–Dirac–Langevin equation.<br>
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<font color="0000FF">Real photons are nowhere near the Plank dimension. Mu.</font><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_8487" class=""><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9705" class="">I do apologize for asking questions instead of not providing a robust informative discussion.
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So you should! (but do not stop!).</font><br>
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regards, John W.</font><br>
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<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9501"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9500" style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [General] To Infinity and Beyond: zero phase index?<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9503">Hi David,
<div class="yiv5561875034" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9504"> My internally superluminal photon model has a helically circulating energy quantum with longitudinal momentum Plong= h/lambda and transverse momentum Ptrans = Plong = h/lambda with a helical
radius of R = lambda/2pi . Its forward helical angle is 45 degrees for photons of any wavelength, and its z-component of spin is R x Ptrans = lambda/2pi x h/lambda = h/2pin = hbar . To move forward at speed c (because it is a photon) at an angle of 45 degrees
REQUIRES that the photon’s energy quantum’s speed along its helical axis is c sqrt(2) for photons of any wavelength. </div>
<div class="yiv5561875034" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445318065472_9746"> An electron composed of a circulating internally superluminal photon would be internally superluminal also.</div>
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<div class="yiv5561875034">On Oct 19, 2015, at 4:26 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5561875034" href="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com" target="_blank">davidmathes8@yahoo.com</a>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5561875034" href="mailto:davidmathes8@yahoo.com" target="_blank">davidmathes8@yahoo.com</a>>
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<font class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15843" size="3">Rich, Chip, John W, Martin et al</font></h1>
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<font class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15730" size="3">I've wondered if the photon or quanta within the confines of an electron could really travel at FTL velocities. </font></h1>
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<font class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15885" size="3">Indeed, one of the parametric models Richard has proposed does fit known experiments to date. </font></h1>
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zero-index metamaterial.</span></div>
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<font class="yiv5561875034" size="3"> </font><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15318" href="http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphoton.2015.198.html" target="_blank"><font class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15685" size="3">http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphoton.2015.198.html</font></a></h1>
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<span class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15374" style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><font class="yiv5561875034" id="yiv5561875034yui_3_16_0_1_1445294444662_15512" size="3">"This novel on-chip metamaterial platform opens the door to exploring
the physics of zero index and its applications in integrated optics."</font></span></div>
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