<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Chip, Al, Adam and others,<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Here’s a well-known quote by A. O. Barut that I included in my 2009 article “The Dirac equation and the superluminal electron model” at <a href="http://www.superluminalquantum.org/diracequation.pdf" class="">http://www.superluminalquantum.org/diracequation.pdf</a> :
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<div class="column"><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12.000000pt; font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="">More recently, physicist A.O. Barut (1991) summarized the problem of
visualizing the structure of the electron: “If a spinning particle is not quite a point
particle, nor a solid three dimensional top, what can it be? What is the structure which
can appear under probing with electromagnetic fields as a point charge, yet as far as spin
and wave properties are concerned exhibits a size of the order of the Compton wave
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</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, <a href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de" class="">af.kracklauer@web.de</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;" class=""><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class="">Hi Al</span></p><div class=""><span style="" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class="">No, I was not referring to </span><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">A. O. Barut's work but rather to the recent work of Robert Close and Joy Christian. I don’t think I have seen A. O. Barut's work. Will look at it.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Al: Been a while since I read JC!</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Question Al: When you say, “The "locality loophole" always struck me ridiculously far-fetched!” Do you mean that you feel that “entanglement” is real?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Al: Absolutely not! I hold that "entanglement" is a totally erronous idea, feed by two basic errors: 1) von Neumann's 'Projection Hypothsis', and Bell's faulty inequality derviation (a la Edwin Jaynes). The result: all entanglement can be accounted for by a 'common cause' just like for ordinary correlation (which is what it is). What I meant is that, collaborating detectors, as if they were politicians (or lacking a physical means to communicate superlumnally) is just wild sci-fi! Something done by those mystifcating physics.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 1.6em;" class="">Al : Best</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class="">Chip</span></p><div class=""><span style="" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, October 30, 2015 9:43 AM<br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Of course I endorse your two first sentences. Regarding the third: are you refering to A. O. Barut's earily 90's paper in Found. Phys.?</span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Also: spin & point particles: Logically a point particle cannot exhibit spin or any kind of rotation about is axis (using that term with reservation) . However, it could gyrate. In fact if it does Zitterbewegung in a magnetic field, seems to me it would have to be induced to gyrate, albeit randomly. Nevertheless, an ensemble would tend, under the mutual interaction, to seek an energy stable point such that the right and left gyration ration would be proportional to the Boltzmann energy distributio function of temperature, etc.</span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">BTW, the Delft group's claims are inline with the standard folklore among quantum opticians over the past 20 years. The "locality loophole" always struck me rediculously far fetched!</span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;" class="">Regards, Al </span></p>
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