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    <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Dear John,<br>
      <br>
      <font color="#006600">no, in my understanding I did not invent
        anything fundamentally new but use known physical rules.</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
        serif">Am 13.11.2015 um 12:35 schrieb John Williamson:</font><br>
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        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Dear Albrecht,<br>
        <br>
        You asked, so I will answer. I think you are managing to fool
        yourself. You have had to, to keep your initial postulate,
        invent several rules not found in other physics. Comments below.<br>
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              color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> General
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
              on behalf of Dr. Albrecht Giese [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de">genmail@a-giese.de</a>]<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2015 11:11 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from what
              a model…<br>
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          <div>Hi Al,<br>
            <br>
            if we look to charges you mention the law 1/r<sup>2</sup>.
            Now we can perform a simple physical experiment having an
            electrically charged object and using it to measure the
            electric field around us. I say: it is very weak. Now look
            to the distance of the two half-charges within the particle
            having a distance of 4*10<sup>-13</sup> m. This means an
            increase of force of about 25 orders of magnitude compared
            to what we do in a lab. And the difference is much greater
            if we refer to charges acting from the universe. So I think
            we do not make a big mistake assuming that there is nothing
            outside the particle.<br>
            <br>
            Regarding my model, the logic of deduction was very simple
            for me:<br>
            <br>
            1.) We have dilation, so there must be a permanent motion
            with c<br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">ok</font><br>
            <br>
            2.) There must be 2 sub-particles otherwise the momentum law
            is violated; 3 are not possible as in conflict with
            experiments.
            <br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">Not so .. there must be at least two
              elements for a wave, indeed, but it does not need to be
              two "particles". In ordinary textbook EM for example,there
              are six field components. Six is enough!<br>
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    <font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">What I
      have called sub-particles here are in fact charges of the strong
      force. In my view (which I think is very traditional) the basic
      entities are charges and not fields. What we call field is the
      fact that in the vicinity of a charge there acts a force on
      another charge. This fact has got the name "field". Nothing else.<br>
      <br>
      On the other hand: six components for an EM field are anyway too
      many. We only have to describe an electric field, magnetism is
      merely a result of relativity as I have explained here several
      times.<br>
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              Also 2 particles are just as much in conflict with
              experiment as are 3! As I have said before.</font><br>
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    <font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The two
      particle structure is not in conflict with experiments. The
      conflict normally seen results from the missing success of the
      attempt to decompose an electron by bombardment. But that is not a
      conflict here as a system of 2 massless objects can never
      decomposed in this way. - I have discussed this matter with a
      former research director of the DESY who was responsible for this
      type of experiments and he did not have objections to my position.</font><br>
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            3.) The sub-particles must be mass-less, otherwise c is not
            possible<br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">Mass-less means they must be made of
              something other than "particles". No? What then?<br>
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    <font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">These
      objects which I have called "basic particles" are in fact
      constellations of charges of the strong force. </font><br>
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            4.) The whole particle has mass even though the
            sub-particles are mass-less. So there must be a mechanism to
            cause inertia. It was immediately clear for me that inertia
            is a consequence of extension. Another reason to assume a
            particle which is composed of parts. (There is no other
            working mechanism of inertia known until today.)<br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">This is absolutely right. So you can
              either invent a mechanism to give inertia (outside of
              physics) - or reject the initial hypothesis that there are
              two particles.</font><br>
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    <font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The fact
      that an extended object (like the particle in my model) has
      inertia is not an invention but an unavoidable consequence of an
      extension. That is very basic physics.</font><br>
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            5.) I had to find the binding field for the sub-particles. I
            have taken the simplest one which I could find which has a
            potential minimum at some distance. And my first attempt
            worked.<br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">You need a force, indeed, to confine
              your postulate of two particles. So you can either invent
              a
              <font color="0000FF">new <font color="0000FF">force</font></font>
              (outside of physics) - or reject the initial hypothesis
              that there are two particles.</font><br>
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    <font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">There is
      of course a force which is not a new one. It is the strong force.
      This is unfamiliar at the first glance. But in the 1990ies it was
      found at DESY that the electron reacts on the strong force. So
      this assumption is compliant with the experiment. </font><br>
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            That is all, and I do not see any possibility to change one
            of the points 1.) thru 5.) without getting in conflict with
            fundamental physical rules. And I do not invent new facts or
            rules beyond those already known in physics.
            <br>
            <br>
            So, where do you see any kind of arbitrariness or missing
            justification?<br>
            <br>
            <font color="0000FF">The point you go into the mist is the
              initial step of demanding the only way to conserve
              momentum is to have two objects (true) and that the only
              kind of object allowed is a particle (not true in my
              view). I think even if it were true one is still just left
              with the problem of explaining just what the (<font
                color="0000FF">now two) particles a<font color="0000FF">re.</font></font></font></div>
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    <font color="0000FF"><font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman,
        Times, serif">I think that I have explain</font><font
        color="0000FF"><font color="#006600" face="Times New Roman,
          Times, serif">ed that. Or what is missing?</font><br>
        <br>
        <font color="0000FF"><font color="#006600" face="Times New
            Roman, Times, serif">Regards<br>
            Albrecht</font><br>
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            Tschüß!<br>
            Albrecht<br>
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            <font color="0000FF">Regards, John.</font><br>
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            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.11.2015 um 17:51 schrieb
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de" target="_blank">
                af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:<br>
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                  <div>Hi Albrect:</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>We are making some progress.  </div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>To your remark that Swinger & Feynman
                    introduced virtual charges, I note that they used
                    the same term: "virtual charge/particle," in spite
                    of the much older meaning in accord with the charge
                    and mirror example.  In the finest of quantum
                    traditions, they too ignored the rest of the
                    universe and instead tried to vest its effect in the
                    "vacuum."  This idea was suitably mystical to allow
                    them to introduce the associated plaver into the
                    folk lore of QM, given the sociology of the day.
                     Even in spite of this BS, the idea still has merit.
                    Your objection on the basis of the 1/r² fall-off is
                    true but not conclusive.  This fall-off is matched
                    by a r² increase in muber of charges, so the
                    integrated total interaction can be expected to have
                    at least some effect, no matter what.  Think of the
                    universe to 1st order as a neutral, low-density
                    plasma. <span style="">I (and some others) hold that
                      this interaction is responcible for all quantum
                      effects.  In any case, no particle is a universe
                      unto itself, the rest have the poulation and time
                      to take a toll!  </span></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><span
                      style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif,Arial,'Trebuchet
                      MS'; font-size:13px; line-height:1.6em">BTW, this
                      is history repeating itself.  Once upon a time
                      there was theory of Brownian motion that posited
                      an internal cause known as "elan vital" to dust
                      specks observed hopping about like Mexican jumping
                      beans.  Ultimately this nonsense was displaced by
                      the observation that the dust spots were not alone
                      in their immediate universe but imbededded in a
                      slurry of other particles, also in motion, to
                      which they were reacting.  Nowadays atoms are
                      analysed in QM text books as if they were the only
                      object in the universe---all others being too far
                      away (so it is argued, anyway).  </span></div>
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                  <div><span
                      style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif,Arial,'Trebuchet
                      MS'; font-size:13px; line-height:1.6em">Your
                      model, as it stands, can be free of contradiction
                      and still unstatisfying because the inputs seem to
                      be just what is needed to make the conclusions you
                      aim to make.  Fine, but what most critics will
                      expect is that these inputs have to have some kind
                      of justification or motivation.  This is what the
                      second particle lacks.  Where is it when one
                      really looks for it?  It has no empirical
                      motivation.   Thus, this theory then has about the
                      same ultimate structure, and pursuasiveness, as
                      saying: 'don't worry about it, God did it; go
                      home, open a beer, pop your feet up, and forget
                      about it---a theory which explains absolutely
                      everything!</span></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><span
                      style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif,Arial,'Trebuchet
                      MS'; font-size:13px; line-height:1.6em">Tschuß,
                       Al</span></div>
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                      <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag,
                        12. November 2015 um 16:18 Uhr<br>
                        <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
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                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                        <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"
                          target="_blank">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                          target="_blank">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                        <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments
                        from what a model…</div>
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                            size="-1">Hi Al,<br>
                            <br>
                            I have gotten a different understanding of
                            what a virtual particle or a virtual charge
                            is. This phenomenon was invented by Julian
                            Schwinger and Richard Feynman. They thought
                            to need it in order to explain certain
                            reactions in particle physics. In the case
                            of Schwinger it was the Landé factor, where
                            I have shown that this assumption is not
                            necessary.<br>
                            <br>
                            If there is a charge then of course this
                            charge is subject to interactions with all
                            other charges in the universe. That is
                            correct. But because of the normal
                            distribution of these other charges in the
                            universe, which cause a good compensation of
                            the effects, and because of the distance law
                            we can think about models without reference
                            to those. And also there is the problem with
                            virtual particles and vacuum polarization
                            (which is equivalent), in that we have this
                            huge problem that the integrated energy of
                            it over the universe is by a factor of
                            10^120 higher than the energy measured. I
                            think this is a really big argument against
                            virtual effects.<br>
                            <br>
                            Your example of the virtual image of a
                            charge in a conducting surface is a
                            different case. It is, as you write, the
                            rearrangement of charges in the conducting
                            surface. So the partner of the charge is
                            physically the mirror, not the picture
                            behind it. But which mirror can cause the
                            second particle in a model if the second
                            particle is not assumed to be real?<br>
                            <br>
                            And what in general is the problem with a
                            two particle model? It fulfils the momentum
                            law. And it does not cause further
                            conflicts. It also explains why an
                            accelerated electron sometimes radiates,
                            sometimes not. For an experimental evidence
                            I refer again to the article of Frank
                            Wilczek in "Nature" which was mentioned here
                            earlier:<br>
                            <br>
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                          <div class="t m88 x28 h2 y37 ff1 fs1 fc0 sc0
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                                  class="current-selection">He writes:
                                  "By co</span></span><span
                                class="current-selection">mb</span><span
                                class="current-selection">ining fragmen</span><span
                                class="current-selection">tatio</span><span
                                class="current-selection">n with su</span><span
                                class="current-selection">per</span><span
                                class="ls0 ws0 current-selection">-</span><span
                                class="current-selection">con</span><span
                                class="current-selection">ductivity</span><span
                                class="current-selection">, w</span><span
                                class="current-selection">e can get
                                half-electro</span><span
                                class="current-selection">ns tha</span><span
                                class="current-selection">t
                              </span></small><small><span
                                class="current-selection">ar</span><span
                                class="current-selection">e their o</span><span
                                class="current-selection">wn an</span><span><span
                                  class="current-selection">tiparticles."
                                </span><br>
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                          <font size="-1">For Wilczek this is a
                            mysterious result, in view of my model it is
                            not, on the contrary it is kind of a proof.<br>
                            <br>
                            Grüße<br>
                            Albrecht</font><br>
                          <br>
                           
                          <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="-1">Am
                              12.11.2015 um 03:06 schrieb <a
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                                <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Virtual particles are proxys for an
                                  ensemble of real particles.  There is
                                  nothing folly-lolly about them!  They
                                  simply summarize the total effect of
                                  particles that cannot be ignored.  To
                                  ignore the remainder of the universe
                                  becasue it is inconvenient for theory
                                  formulation is for certain leading to
                                  error.  "No man is an island,"  and no
                                  single particle is a universe!  Thus,
                                  it can be argued that, to reject the
                                  concept of virtual particles is to
                                  reject a facit of reality that must be
                                  essential for an explantion of the
                                  material world.</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>For example, if a positive charge
                                  is placed near a conducting surface,
                                  the charges in that surface will
                                  respond to the positive charge by
                                  rearranging themselves so as to give a
                                  total field on the surface of zero
                                  strength as if there were a negative
                                  charge (virtual) behind the mirror.
                                   Without the real charges on the
                                  mirror surface, the concept of
                                  "virtual" negative charge would not be
                                  necessary or even useful.  </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>The concept of virtual charge as
                                  the second particle in your model
                                  seems to me to be not just a wild
                                  supposition, but an absolute
                                  necessity.  Every charge is, without
                                  choice, in constant interaction with
                                  every other charge in the universe,
                                  has been so since the big bang (if
                                  such were) and will remain so till the
                                  big crunch (if such is to be)!  The
                                  universe cannot be ignored. If you
                                  reject including the universe by means
                                  of virtual charges, them you have a
                                  lot more work to do to make your
                                  theory reasonable some how else.  In
                                  particular in view of the fact that
                                  the second particles in your model
                                  have never ever been seen or even
                                  suspected in the various experiments
                                  resulting in the disasssmbly of
                                  whatever targert was used.  </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>MfG,  Al</div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0 0 10.0px 0"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch,
                                      11. November 2015 um 22:37 Uhr<br>
                                      <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
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                                      <b>An:</b> <a
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                                      <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General]
                                      Reply of comments from what a
                                      model…</div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hi
                                        Al,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        if we think in categories of a
                                        virtual image, then we are in my
                                        understanding fully on the path
                                        of present main stream QM. I
                                        have understood that we all want
                                        to do something better than
                                        that.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Regarding virtual phenomena I
                                        would like to remind you again
                                        of the history of such ideas. In
                                        the 1940ies Julian Schwinger has
                                        introduced vacuum polarization
                                        (which is equivalent to virtual
                                        particles according to Feynman)
                                        to determine the Landé factor
                                        for refining the Bohr magneton.
                                        This was the birth of it.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        On the other hand I have shown
                                        that I can deduce the Bohr
                                        magneton as well as the Landé
                                        factor in a classical way if I
                                        use my particle model. And that
                                        is possible and was done on a
                                        pure classical way. For me this
                                        is a good example that we can do
                                        things better than by QM. In
                                        particular I try to have correct
                                        results without using any
                                        virtual objects.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Back to your question: If we
                                        build a particle model on a
                                        classical basis then there is no
                                        place for a virtual image, and
                                        so I see the need for two
                                        sub-particles.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Ciao, Albrecht<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                         
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                                                    11. November 2015 um
                                                    11:54 Uhr<br>
                                                    <b>Von:</b> "Dr.
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                                                    <b>Betreff:</b> Re:
                                                    [General] Reply of
                                                    comments from what a
                                                    model…</div>
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                                                      <div>Hi  Albrecht:</div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div><font
                                                          color="#006600">You
                                                          said:  A model
                                                          with only one
                                                          particle is in
                                                          my view also
                                                          not possible
                                                          as it violates
                                                          the
                                                          conservation
                                                          of momentum. A
                                                          single object
                                                          can never
                                                          oscillate.</font></div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div><font
                                                          color="#006600">I
                                                          ask: </font><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(0,102,0);
                                                          font-family:Verdana;
                                                          font-size:12.0px;
line-height:19.2px">  Why can't a single particle oscillate against, or
                                                          in consort
                                                          with, its own
                                                          virtual image.
                                                          (Presuming
                                                          there is
                                                          charge complex
                                                          around---mirror
                                                          in 2d,
                                                          negative
                                                          sphere (I
                                                          think) in
                                                          3d)? </span></div>
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                                                          style="color:rgb(0,102,0);
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line-height:19.2px">ciao,  Al</span></div>
                                                       
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