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Hi Chip,<br>
<br>
thank you for your interesting question.<br>
<br>
I do not have a detailed model for the process of decay. At least
there is no direct consequence coming out of the 2 particle model. <br>
<br>
The decay is a specific aspect of the conservation laws in particle
physics. These laws follow some ad hoc assumptions of quantum
theorists about specific conservation of something which could be
kind of charges. Such conservation law in this case is the
conservation of the lepton number. In more detail the conservation
of the electron number, the muon number, and the tauon number, which
includes the corresponding neutrinos. This is formalized in the way
that a muon decay is assumed to look like this:<br>
<br>
muon -> electron + muon-neutrino + electron-antineutrino. In the
scope of my model these conservation processes apply to the 2 basic
particles which carry these properties.<br>
<br>
Now one can assume that the process above can also go on in this
way:<br>
<br>
muon + electron-neutrino -> electron + muon-neutrino . It
conserved both types of leptons. This reaction can in practise not
be distinguished from the one above as the neutrinos are not visible
in a normal experiment. Their existence occurs only in the momentum
/ energy calculation. <br>
<br>
Now the process of decay can be described in the following way: A
muon (as an example) exists until an electron-neutrino hits the
muon. Then the basic particles of the muon are converted into basic
particles of an electron. The probability of this decay is given by
the probability that a free moving electron-neutrino meets the muon.<br>
<br>
This is of course a bit speculative. But it could work. It could be
tested if a muon could be submitted to environments with a different
density of electron-neutrinos. I am not sure that this will be
possible.<br>
<br>
An electron cannot decay because of energy reasons. No lighter
lepton than an electron exists.<br>
<br>
Do you find these considerations reasonable?<br>
<br>
Albrecht<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.11.2015 um 22:17 schrieb Chip
Akins:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Albrecht<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I
have a question for you, because I might learn something
from your explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Is
there a specific cause which makes the electron so stable
and the Muon and Tau unstable which is illustrated by your
model?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Chip</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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General
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2015 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
what a model
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Your
proposed experiment is hampered by reality! If you do
the measurement with a gaget bought in a store that has
knobes and a display, then the measurement is for
certain for signals under a couple hundred GHz and based
on some phenomena for which the sensitivity of man-made
devices is limited. And, if limited to the electric
field, then there is a good chance it is missing
altogether oscillating signals by virtue of its limited
reaction time of reset time, etc. etc. The vast
majority of the background will be much higher, the
phenomena most attuned to detecting might be in fact the
quantum effects otherwise explained with mystical
hokus-pokus! Also to be noted is that, the processes
invovled in your model, if they pertain to elementray
entities, will have to be at very small size and if at
the velocity (c) will be very high energy, etc. so that
once again, it is quite reasonable to suppose that the
universe is anything but irrelavant! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Of
course, there is then the issue of the divergence of the
this SED background. Ameliorated to some extent with
the realization that there is no energy at a point in
empty space until a charged entity is put there,
whereupon the energy of interaction with the rest of the
universe (not just by itself being there and ignoring
the universe---as QM theorists, and yourself, are wont
to do) is given by the sum of interactions over all
particles not by the integral over all space, including
empty space. Looks at first blush to be finite. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Why
fight it? Where the hell else will you find a credible
2nd particle? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">ciao,
Al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Freitag,
13. November 2015 um 12:11 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <<a
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href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de">genmail@a-giese.de</a></a>><br>
<b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
what a model
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Al,<br>
<br>
if we look to charges you mention the law 1/r<sup>2</sup>.
Now we can perform a simple physical experiment
having an electrically charged object and using it
to measure the electric field around us. I say: it
is very weak. Now look to the distance of the two
half-charges within the particle having a distance
of 4*10<sup>-13</sup> m. This means an increase of
force of about 25 orders of magnitude compared to
what we do in a lab. And the difference is much
greater if we refer to charges acting from the
universe. So I think we do not make a big mistake
assuming that there is nothing outside the
particle.<br>
<br>
Regarding my model, the logic of deduction was
very simple for me:<br>
<br>
1.) We have dilation, so there must be a permanent
motion with c<br>
2.) There must be 2 sub-particles otherwise the
momentum law is violated; 3 are not possible as in
conflict with experiments.<br>
3.) The sub-particles must be mass-less, otherwise
c is not possible<br>
4.) The whole particle has mass even though the
sub-particles are mass-less. So there must be a
mechanism to cause inertia. It was immediately
clear for me that inertia is a consequence of
extension. Another reason to assume a particle
which is composed of parts. (There is no other
working mechanism of inertia known until today.)<br>
5.) I had to find the binding field for the
sub-particles. I have taken the simplest one which
I could find which has a potential minimum at some
distance. And my first attempt worked.<br>
<br>
That is all, and I do not see any possibility to
change one of the points 1.) thru 5.) without
getting in conflict with fundamental physical
rules. And I do not invent new facts or rules
beyond those already known in physics.<br>
<br>
So, where do you see any kind of arbitrariness or
missing justification?<br>
<br>
Tschüß!<br>
Albrecht<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Am
12.11.2015 um 17:51 schrieb <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="af.kracklauer@web.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Albrect:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We
are making some progress. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To
your remark that Swinger & Feynman
introduced virtual charges, I note that
they used the same term: "virtual
charge/particle," in spite of the much
older meaning in accord with the charge
and mirror example. In the finest of
quantum traditions, they too ignored the
rest of the universe and instead tried to
vest its effect in the "vacuum." This
idea was suitably mystical to allow them
to introduce the associated plaver into
the folk lore of QM, given the sociology
of the day. Even in spite of this BS, the
idea still has merit. Your objection on
the basis of the 1/r² fall-off is true but
not conclusive. This fall-off is matched
by a r² increase in muber of charges, so
the integrated total interaction can be
expected to have at least some effect, no
matter what. Think of the universe to 1st
order as a neutral, low-density plasma. I
(and some others) hold that this
interaction is responcible for all quantum
effects. In any case, no particle is a
universe unto itself, the rest have the
poulation and time to take a toll! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">BTW,
this is history repeating itself. Once
upon a time there was theory of Brownian
motion that posited an internal cause
known as "elan vital" to dust specks
observed hopping about like Mexican
jumping beans. Ultimately this nonsense
was displaced by the observation that the
dust spots were not alone in their
immediate universe but imbededded in a
slurry of other particles, also in motion,
to which they were reacting. Nowadays
atoms are analysed in QM text books as if
they were the only object in the
universe---all others being too far away
(so it is argued, anyway). </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Your
model, as it stands, can be free of
contradiction and still unstatisfying
because the inputs seem to be just what is
needed to make the conclusions you aim to
make. Fine, but what most critics will
expect is that these inputs have to have
some kind of justification or motivation.
This is what the second particle lacks.
Where is it when one really looks for it?
It has no empirical motivation. Thus,
this theory then has about the same
ultimate structure, and pursuasiveness, as
saying: 'don't worry about it, God did it;
go home, open a beer, pop your feet up,
and forget about it---a theory which
explains absolutely everything!</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Tschuß,
Al</span><span
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Donnerstag,
12. November 2015 um 16:18 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
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href="genmail@a-giese.de"
target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
<b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="af.kracklauer@web.de"
target="_parent">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
target="_parent">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of
comments from what a model
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Al,<br>
<br>
I have gotten a different
understanding of what a virtual
particle or a virtual charge is.
This phenomenon was invented by
Julian Schwinger and Richard
Feynman. They thought to need it in
order to explain certain reactions
in particle physics. In the case of
Schwinger it was the Landé factor,
where I have shown that this
assumption is not necessary.<br>
<br>
If there is a charge then of course
this charge is subject to
interactions with all other charges
in the universe. That is correct.
But because of the normal
distribution of these other charges
in the universe, which cause a good
compensation of the effects, and
because of the distance law we can
think about models without reference
to those. And also there is the
problem with virtual particles and
vacuum polarization (which is
equivalent), in that we have this
huge problem that the integrated
energy of it over the universe is by
a factor of 10^120 higher than the
energy measured. I think this is a
really big argument against virtual
effects.<br>
<br>
Your example of the virtual image of
a charge in a conducting surface is
a different case. It is, as you
write, the rearrangement of charges
in the conducting surface. So the
partner of the charge is physically
the mirror, not the picture behind
it. But which mirror can cause the
second particle in a model if the
second particle is not assumed to be
real?<br>
<br>
And what in general is the problem
with a two particle model? It
fulfils the momentum law. And it
does not cause further conflicts. It
also explains why an accelerated
electron sometimes radiates,
sometimes not. For an experimental
evidence I refer again to the
article of Frank Wilczek in "Nature"
which was mentioned here earlier:<br>
<br>
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style="background:white"><span
class="current-selection"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">He
writes: "By combining
fragmentation with super</span></span><span
class="ls0"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">-</span></span><span
class="current-selection"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">conductivity,
we can get half-electrons that
are their own antiparticles." </span></span><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">For
Wilczek this is a mysterious result,
in view of my model it is not, on
the contrary it is kind of a proof.<br>
<br>
Grüße<br>
Albrecht</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Am
12.11.2015 um 03:06 schrieb <a
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Virtual
particles are proxys for an
ensemble of real particles.
There is nothing
folly-lolly about them!
They simply summarize the
total effect of particles
that cannot be ignored. To
ignore the remainder of the
universe becasue it is
inconvenient for theory
formulation is for certain
leading to error. "No man
is an island," and no
single particle is a
universe! Thus, it can be
argued that, to reject the
concept of virtual particles
is to reject a facit of
reality that must be
essential for an explantion
of the material world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">For
example, if a positive
charge is placed near a
conducting surface, the
charges in that surface will
respond to the positive
charge by rearranging
themselves so as to give a
total field on the surface
of zero strength as if there
were a negative charge
(virtual) behind the mirror.
Without the real charges on
the mirror surface, the
concept of "virtual"
negative charge would not be
necessary or even useful. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The
concept of virtual charge as
the second particle in your
model seems to me to be not
just a wild supposition, but
an absolute necessity.
Every charge is, without
choice, in constant
interaction with every other
charge in the universe, has
been so since the big bang
(if such were) and will
remain so till the big
crunch (if such is to be)!
The universe cannot be
ignored. If you reject
including the universe by
means of virtual charges,
them you have a lot more
work to do to make your
theory reasonable some how
else. In particular in view
of the fact that the second
particles in your model have
never ever been seen or even
suspected in the various
experiments resulting in the
disasssmbly of whatever
targert was used. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Mittwoch,
11. November 2015 um
22:37 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Dr.
Albrecht Giese" <a
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model
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
Al,<br>
<br>
if we think in
categories of a
virtual image, then we
are in my
understanding fully on
the path of present
main stream QM. I have
understood that we all
want to do something
better than that.<br>
<br>
Regarding virtual
phenomena I would like
to remind you again of
the history of such
ideas. In the 1940ies
Julian Schwinger has
introduced vacuum
polarization (which is
equivalent to virtual
particles according to
Feynman) to determine
the Landé factor for
refining the Bohr
magneton. This was the
birth of it.<br>
<br>
On the other hand I
have shown that I can
deduce the Bohr
magneton as well as
the Landé factor in a
classical way if I use
my particle model. And
that is possible and
was done on a pure
classical way. For me
this is a good example
that we can do things
better than by QM. In
particular I try to
have correct results
without using any
virtual objects.<br>
<br>
Back to your question:
If we build a particle
model on a classical
basis then there is no
place for a virtual
image, and so I see
the need for two
sub-particles.<br>
<br>
Ciao, Albrecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Mittwoch,
11. November
2015 um 11:54
Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Dr.
Albrecht
Giese" <a
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Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#006600">You
said: A model
with only one
particle is in
my view also
not possible
as it violates
the
conservation
of momentum. A
single object
can never
oscillate.</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#006600">I
ask: Why
can't a single
particle
oscillate
against, or in
consort with,
its own
virtual image.
(Presuming
there is
charge complex
around---mirror
in 2d,
negative
sphere (I
think) in
3d)? </span><span
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