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    Hi Chip,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for your interesting question.<br>
    <br>
    I do not have a detailed model for the process of decay. At least
    there is no direct consequence coming out of the 2 particle model. <br>
    <br>
    The decay is a specific aspect of the conservation laws in particle
    physics. These laws follow some ad hoc assumptions of quantum
    theorists about specific conservation of something which could be
    kind of charges. Such conservation law in this case is the
    conservation of the lepton number. In more detail the conservation
    of the electron number, the muon number, and the tauon number, which
    includes the corresponding neutrinos. This is formalized in  the way
    that a muon decay is assumed to look like this:<br>
    <br>
    muon -> electron + muon-neutrino + electron-antineutrino.  In the
    scope of my model these conservation processes apply to the 2 basic
    particles which carry these properties.<br>
    <br>
    Now one can assume that the process above can also go on in this
    way:<br>
    <br>
    muon + electron-neutrino -> electron + muon-neutrino   . It
    conserved both types of leptons. This reaction can in practise not
    be distinguished from the one above as the neutrinos are not visible
    in a normal experiment. Their existence occurs only in the momentum
    / energy calculation. <br>
    <br>
    Now the process of decay can be described in the following way: A
    muon (as an example) exists until an electron-neutrino hits the
    muon. Then the basic particles of the muon are converted into basic
    particles of an electron. The probability of this decay is given by
    the probability that a free moving electron-neutrino meets the muon.<br>
    <br>
    This is of course a bit speculative. But it could work. It could be
    tested if a muon could be submitted to environments with a different
    density of electron-neutrinos. I am not sure that this will be
    possible.<br>
    <br>
    An electron cannot decay because of energy reasons. No lighter
    lepton than an electron exists.<br>
    <br>
    Do you find these considerations reasonable?<br>
    <br>
    Albrecht<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.11.2015 um 22:17 schrieb Chip
      Akins:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
            Albrecht<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I
            have a question for you, because I might learn something
            from your explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Is
            there a specific cause which makes the electron so stable
            and the Muon and Tau unstable which is illustrated by your
            model?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Chip</span><span
            style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                General
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2015 1:32 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
                what a model…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Your
                proposed experiment is hampered by reality!  If you do
                the measurement with a gaget bought in a store that has
                knobes and a display, then the measurement is for
                certain for signals under a couple hundred GHz and based
                on some phenomena for which the sensitivity of man-made
                devices is limited.  And, if limited to the electric
                field, then there is a good chance it is missing
                altogether oscillating signals by virtue of its limited
                reaction time of reset time, etc. etc.  The vast
                majority of the background will be much higher, the
                phenomena most attuned to detecting might be in fact the
                quantum effects otherwise explained with mystical
                hokus-pokus!  Also to be noted is that, the processes
                invovled in your model, if they pertain to elementray
                entities, will have to be at very small size and if at
                the velocity (c) will be very high energy, etc. so that
                once again, it is quite reasonable to suppose that the
                universe is anything but irrelavant! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Of
                course, there is then the issue of the divergence of the
                this SED background.  Ameliorated to some extent with
                the realization that there is no energy at a point in
                empty space until a charged entity is put there,
                whereupon the energy of interaction with the rest of the
                universe (not just by itself being there and ignoring
                the universe---as QM theorists, and yourself, are wont
                to do) is given by the sum of interactions over all
                particles not by the integral over all space, including
                empty space.  Looks at first blush to be finite. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Why
                fight it?  Where the hell else will you find a credible
                2nd particle?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">ciao,
                 Al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Freitag,
                    13. November 2015 um 12:11 Uhr<br>
                    <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de">genmail@a-giese.de</a></a>><br>
                    <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                    <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
                    what a model…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
                      style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                      Al,<br>
                      <br>
                      if we look to charges you mention the law 1/r<sup>2</sup>.
                      Now we can perform a simple physical experiment
                      having an electrically charged object and using it
                      to measure the electric field around us. I say: it
                      is very weak. Now look to the distance of the two
                      half-charges within the particle having a distance
                      of 4*10<sup>-13</sup> m. This means an increase of
                      force of about 25 orders of magnitude compared to
                      what we do in a lab. And the difference is much
                      greater if we refer to charges acting from the
                      universe. So I think we do not make a big mistake
                      assuming that there is nothing outside the
                      particle.<br>
                      <br>
                      Regarding my model, the logic of deduction was
                      very simple for me:<br>
                      <br>
                      1.) We have dilation, so there must be a permanent
                      motion with c<br>
                      2.) There must be 2 sub-particles otherwise the
                      momentum law is violated; 3 are not possible as in
                      conflict with experiments.<br>
                      3.) The sub-particles must be mass-less, otherwise
                      c is not possible<br>
                      4.) The whole particle has mass even though the
                      sub-particles are mass-less. So there must be a
                      mechanism to cause inertia. It was immediately
                      clear for me that inertia is a consequence of
                      extension. Another reason to assume a particle
                      which is composed of parts. (There is no other
                      working mechanism of inertia known until today.)<br>
                      5.) I had to find the binding field for the
                      sub-particles. I have taken the simplest one which
                      I could find which has a potential minimum at some
                      distance. And my first attempt worked.<br>
                      <br>
                      That is all, and I do not see any possibility to
                      change one of the points 1.) thru 5.) without
                      getting in conflict with fundamental physical
                      rules. And I do not invent new facts or rules
                      beyond those already known in physics.<br>
                      <br>
                      So, where do you see any kind of arbitrariness or
                      missing justification?<br>
                      <br>
                      Tschüß!<br>
                      Albrecht<br>
                      <br>
                        <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Am
                        12.11.2015 um 17:51 schrieb <a
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                          href="af.kracklauer@web.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                              Albrect:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We
                              are making some progress.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To
                              your remark that Swinger & Feynman
                              introduced virtual charges, I note that
                              they used the same term: "virtual
                              charge/particle," in spite of the much
                              older meaning in accord with the charge
                              and mirror example.  In the finest of
                              quantum traditions, they too ignored the
                              rest of the universe and instead tried to
                              vest its effect in the "vacuum."  This
                              idea was suitably mystical to allow them
                              to introduce the associated plaver into
                              the folk lore of QM, given the sociology
                              of the day.  Even in spite of this BS, the
                              idea still has merit. Your objection on
                              the basis of the 1/r² fall-off is true but
                              not conclusive.  This fall-off is matched
                              by a r² increase in muber of charges, so
                              the integrated total interaction can be
                              expected to have at least some effect, no
                              matter what.  Think of the universe to 1st
                              order as a neutral, low-density plasma. I
                              (and some others) hold that this
                              interaction is responcible for all quantum
                              effects.  In any case, no particle is a
                              universe unto itself, the rest have the
                              poulation and time to take a toll!  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">BTW,
                              this is history repeating itself.  Once
                              upon a time there was theory of Brownian
                              motion that posited an internal cause
                              known as "elan vital" to dust specks
                              observed hopping about like Mexican
                              jumping beans.  Ultimately this nonsense
                              was displaced by the observation that the
                              dust spots were not alone in their
                              immediate universe but imbededded in a
                              slurry of other particles, also in motion,
                              to which they were reacting.  Nowadays
                              atoms are analysed in QM text books as if
                              they were the only object in the
                              universe---all others being too far away
                              (so it is argued, anyway).  </span><span
                              style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Your
                              model, as it stands, can be free of
                              contradiction and still unstatisfying
                              because the inputs seem to be just what is
                              needed to make the conclusions you aim to
                              make.  Fine, but what most critics will
                              expect is that these inputs have to have
                              some kind of justification or motivation.
                               This is what the second particle lacks.
                               Where is it when one really looks for it?
                               It has no empirical motivation.   Thus,
                              this theory then has about the same
                              ultimate structure, and pursuasiveness, as
                              saying: 'don't worry about it, God did it;
                              go home, open a beer, pop your feet up,
                              and forget about it---a theory which
                              explains absolutely everything!</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Tschuß,
                               Al</span><span
                              style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="background:white"><b><span
                                    style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Donnerstag,
                                  12. November 2015 um 16:18 Uhr<br>
                                  <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="genmail@a-giese.de"
                                    target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                                  <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="af.kracklauer@web.de"
                                    target="_parent">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                                    target="_parent">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                                  <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of
                                  comments from what a model…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="background:white"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                                    Al,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I have gotten a different
                                    understanding of what a virtual
                                    particle or a virtual charge is.
                                    This phenomenon was invented by
                                    Julian Schwinger and Richard
                                    Feynman. They thought to need it in
                                    order to explain certain reactions
                                    in particle physics. In the case of
                                    Schwinger it was the Landé factor,
                                    where I have shown that this
                                    assumption is not necessary.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    If there is a charge then of course
                                    this charge is subject to
                                    interactions with all other charges
                                    in the universe. That is correct.
                                    But because of the normal
                                    distribution of these other charges
                                    in the universe, which cause a good
                                    compensation of the effects, and
                                    because of the distance law we can
                                    think about models without reference
                                    to those. And also there is the
                                    problem with virtual particles and
                                    vacuum polarization (which is
                                    equivalent), in that we have this
                                    huge problem that the integrated
                                    energy of it over the universe is by
                                    a factor of 10^120 higher than the
                                    energy measured. I think this is a
                                    really big argument against virtual
                                    effects.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Your example of the virtual image of
                                    a charge in a conducting surface is
                                    a different case. It is, as you
                                    write, the rearrangement of charges
                                    in the conducting surface. So the
                                    partner of the charge is physically
                                    the mirror, not the picture behind
                                    it. But which mirror can cause the
                                    second particle in a model if the
                                    second particle is not assumed to be
                                    real?<br>
                                    <br>
                                    And what in general is the problem
                                    with a two particle model? It
                                    fulfils the momentum law. And it
                                    does not cause further conflicts. It
                                    also explains why an accelerated
                                    electron sometimes radiates,
                                    sometimes not. For an experimental
                                    evidence I refer again to the
                                    article of Frank Wilczek in "Nature"
                                    which was mentioned here earlier:<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com"
                                      target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com</a>:
                                  </span><span
                                    style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
                                      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="background:white"><span
                                      class="current-selection"><span
                                        style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">He
                                        writes: "By combining
                                        fragmentation with super</span></span><span
                                      class="ls0"><span
                                        style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">-</span></span><span
                                      class="current-selection"><span
                                        style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">conductivity,
                                        we can get half-electrons that
                                        are their own antiparticles." </span></span><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
                                       </span><span
                                      style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="background:white"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">For
                                    Wilczek this is a mysterious result,
                                    in view of my model it is not, on
                                    the contrary it is kind of a proof.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Grüße<br>
                                    Albrecht</span><span
                                    style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
                                    <br>
                                      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="background:white"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Am
                                      12.11.2015 um 03:06 schrieb <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="af.kracklauer@web.de"
                                        target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                                            Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Virtual
                                            particles are proxys for an
                                            ensemble of real particles.
                                             There is nothing
                                            folly-lolly about them!
                                             They simply summarize the
                                            total effect of particles
                                            that cannot be ignored.  To
                                            ignore the remainder of the
                                            universe becasue it is
                                            inconvenient for theory
                                            formulation is for certain
                                            leading to error.  "No man
                                            is an island,"  and no
                                            single particle is a
                                            universe!  Thus, it can be
                                            argued that, to reject the
                                            concept of virtual particles
                                            is to reject a facit of
                                            reality that must be
                                            essential for an explantion
                                            of the material world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">For
                                            example, if a positive
                                            charge is placed near a
                                            conducting surface, the
                                            charges in that surface will
                                            respond to the positive
                                            charge by rearranging
                                            themselves so as to give a
                                            total field on the surface
                                            of zero strength as if there
                                            were a negative charge
                                            (virtual) behind the mirror.
                                             Without the real charges on
                                            the mirror surface, the
                                            concept of "virtual"
                                            negative charge would not be
                                            necessary or even useful.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The
                                            concept of virtual charge as
                                            the second particle in your
                                            model seems to me to be not
                                            just a wild supposition, but
                                            an absolute necessity.
                                             Every charge is, without
                                            choice, in constant
                                            interaction with every other
                                            charge in the universe, has
                                            been so since the big bang
                                            (if such were) and will
                                            remain so till the big
                                            crunch (if such is to be)!
                                             The universe cannot be
                                            ignored. If you reject
                                            including the universe by
                                            means of virtual charges,
                                            them you have a lot more
                                            work to do to make your
                                            theory reasonable some how
                                            else.  In particular in view
                                            of the fact that the second
                                            particles in your model have
                                            never ever been seen or even
                                            suspected in the various
                                            experiments resulting in the
                                            disasssmbly of whatever
                                            targert was used.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">MfG,
                                             Al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Mittwoch,
                                                11. November 2015 um
                                                22:37 Uhr<br>
                                                <b>Von:</b> "Dr.
                                                Albrecht Giese" <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="genmail@a-giese.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                                                <b>An:</b> <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>, <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a><br>
                                                <b>Betreff:</b> Re:
                                                [General] Reply of
                                                comments from what a
                                                model…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                                                  Al,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  if we think in
                                                  categories of a
                                                  virtual image, then we
                                                  are in my
                                                  understanding fully on
                                                  the path of present
                                                  main stream QM. I have
                                                  understood that we all
                                                  want to do something
                                                  better than that.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Regarding virtual
                                                  phenomena I would like
                                                  to remind you again of
                                                  the history of such
                                                  ideas. In the 1940ies
                                                  Julian Schwinger has
                                                  introduced vacuum
                                                  polarization (which is
                                                  equivalent to virtual
                                                  particles according to
                                                  Feynman) to determine
                                                  the Landé factor for
                                                  refining the Bohr
                                                  magneton. This was the
                                                  birth of it.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  On the other hand I
                                                  have shown that I can
                                                  deduce the Bohr
                                                  magneton as well as
                                                  the Landé factor in a
                                                  classical way if I use
                                                  my particle model. And
                                                  that is possible and
                                                  was done on a pure
                                                  classical way. For me
                                                  this is a good example
                                                  that we can do things
                                                  better than by QM. In
                                                  particular I try to
                                                  have correct results
                                                  without using any
                                                  virtual objects.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Back to your question:
                                                  If we build a particle
                                                  model on a classical
                                                  basis then there is no
                                                  place for a virtual
                                                  image, and so I see
                                                  the need for two
                                                  sub-particles.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Ciao, Albrecht<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Am
                                                    11.11.2015 um 17:27
                                                    schrieb <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="af.kracklauer@web.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> 
                                                        <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> 
                                                          <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><b><span
                                                          style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Mittwoch,
                                                          11. November
                                                          2015 um 11:54
                                                          Uhr<br>
                                                          <b>Von:</b> "Dr.
                                                          Albrecht
                                                          Giese" <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="genmail@a-giese.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                                                          <b>An:</b> <a
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                                                          what a model…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                                                           Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#006600">You
                                                          said:  A model
                                                          with only one
                                                          particle is in
                                                          my view also
                                                          not possible
                                                          as it violates
                                                          the
                                                          conservation
                                                          of momentum. A
                                                          single object
                                                          can never
                                                          oscillate.</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#006600">I
                                                          ask:   Why
                                                          can't a single
                                                          particle
                                                          oscillate
                                                          against, or in
                                                          consort with,
                                                          its own
                                                          virtual image.
                                                          (Presuming
                                                          there is
                                                          charge complex
                                                          around---mirror
                                                          in 2d,
                                                          negative
                                                          sphere (I
                                                          think) in
                                                          3d)? </span><span
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#006600">ciao,
                                                           Al</span><span
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