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    <small>Hi Al,<br>
      <br>
      again some responses.</small><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><small>Am 14.11.2015 um 18:24 schrieb
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:</small><br>
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          <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
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          <div>Answers to your questions:</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>1) The SED background explains the Planck BB distribution
             without quantization. It explans why an atom doesn't
            collapse: in equilibrium with background, In fact, just
            about every effect described by 2nd quantization has an SED
            parallel explantion without  additional considerations.
             With the additional input of the SED origin of deBroglie
            waves, it provides a direct derivation of the Schröedinger
            eq. thereby explainiong all of 1st Quantization.</div>
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    <small>Maybe you achieve something when using SED background. I do
      not really understand this background, but I do not see a
      stringent necessity for it. But SED as an origin to the de Broglie
      waves is of interest for me. I am presently working on de Broglie
      waves to find a solution, which does not have the logical
      conflicts which we have discussed here.</small> <br>
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          <div>2) Olber's logic is in conflict with Mach's Principle, so
            is obviously just valid for visible light.  Given a little
            intergalacitc plasma (1 H/m³), not to mention atmossphere
            and interplanatary plama, visible light disappears to
            Earthbound observers at visitble freqs to reappear at other,
            perhaps at 2.7° even, or at any other long or hyper short
            wave length.  'The universe matters'---which is even
            politically correct nowadays!</div>
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    <small>Olber's logic is simple in so far, as it shows that the
      universe cannot be infinite. I have assumed the same for all
      background effects. Or are they infinite?<br>
      <br>
      What is the conflict with Mach's principle?<br>
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          <div>3) The (wide spread) criticism of 2 particles is that
            there is neither an <em>a-priori</em> intuative reason, nor
            empirical evidence that they exist.  Maybe they do anyway.
             But then, maybe Zeus does too, and he is just arranging
            appearances so that we amuse ourselves.  (Try to prove that
            wrong!)  <br>
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    <small>I have explained how I came to the conclusion of 2
      sub-particles. Again:<br>
      <br>
      1) There is motion with c in an elementary particle to explain
      dilation<br>
      2) With only on particle such process is mechanically not
      possible, and it violates the conservation of momentum<br>
      3) In this way it is the only working model theses days to explain
      inertia. And this model explains inertia with high precision. What
      more is needed?<br>
      <br>
      I know from several discussions with particle physicists that
      there is a lot of resistance against this assumption of 2
      constituents. The reason is that everyone learn at university like
      with mother's milk that the electron is point-like, extremely
      small and does not have any internal structure. This has the
      effect like a religion. (Same with the relativity of Hendrik
      Lorentz. Everyone learns with the same fundamental attitude that
      Lorentz was nothing better than a senile old man how was not able
      to understand modern physics.)  -  Not a really good way, all
      this.</small> <br>
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          <div>4) It is ascientific to consider that the desired result
            is justification for a hypothetical input.  OK, one can say
            about such reasoning, it is validated <em>a posteriori</em>,
            that at least makes it sound substantial.  So much has been
            granted to your "story" but has not granted your story
            status as a "physics theory."  It has some appeal, which in
            my mind would be enhansed had a rationalization for the 2nd
            particle been provided.  That's all I'm trying to do.  When
            you or whoever comes up with a better one, I'll drop pushing
            the virtual particle engendered by the background. Maybe, it
            fixes too many other things.</div>
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    <small>My history was following another way and another motivation.
      I intended to explain relativity on the basis of physical facts.
      This was my only intention for this model. All further properties
      of the model were logical consequences where I did not see
      alternatives. I did not want to explain inertia. It just was a
      result by itself. <br>
      So, what is the problem? I have a model which explains several
      properties of elementary particles very precisely. It is in no
      conflict with any experimental experience. And as a new
      observation there is even some experimental evidence. - What else
      can physics expect from a theory? - The argument that the second
      particle is not visible is funny. Who has ever seen a quark? Who
      has ever seen the internal structure of the sun? I think you have
      a demand here which was never fulfilled in science.<br>
      <br>
      And see again Frank Wilczek. </small><small><span><span
          class="current-selection">He writes: "By co</span></span><span
        class="current-selection">mb</span><span
        class="current-selection">ining fragmen</span><span
        class="current-selection">tatio</span><span
        class="current-selection">n with su</span><span
        class="current-selection">per</span><span class="ls0 ws0
        current-selection">-</span><span class="current-selection">con</span><span
        class="current-selection">ductivity</span><span
        class="current-selection">, w</span><span
        class="current-selection">e can get half-electro</span><span
        class="current-selection">ns tha</span><span
        class="current-selection">t </span></small><small><span
        class="current-selection">ar</span><span
        class="current-selection">e their o</span><span
        class="current-selection">wn an</span><span><span
          class="current-selection">tiparticles." </span></span></small><br>
    <br>
    <small>Guten Abend<br>
      Albrecht</small><br>
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          <div>Have a good one!   Al</div>
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              <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag,
                14. November 2015 um 14:51 Uhr<br>
                <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese"
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a><br>
                <b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
                what a model…</div>
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                <div style="background-color: rgb(255,255,255);">Hi Al,<br>
                  <br>
                  Why do we need a background? If I assume only local
                  forces (strong and electric) for my model, the
                  calculation conforms to the measurement (e.g. between
                  mass and magnetic moment) with a precision of 2 :
                  1'000'000. This is no incident. Not possible, if a
                  poorly defined and stable background has a measurable
                  influence. - And if there should be such background
                  and it has such little effect, which mistake do we
                  make if we ignore that?<br>
                  <br>
                  For the competition of the 1/r<sup>2</sup> law for
                  range of charges and the r<sup>2</sup> law for the
                  quantity of charges we have a popular example when we
                  look at the sky at night. The sky is dark and that
                  shows that the r<sup>2</sup> case (number of shining
                  stars) does in no way compensates for the 1/r<sup>2</sup>
                  case (light flow density from the stars).<br>
                  <br>
                  Why is a 2 particle model necessary?<br>
                  <br>
                  1.) for the conservation of momentum<br>
                  2.) for a cause of the inertial mass<br>
                  3.) for the radiation at acceleration which occurs
                  most time, but does not occur in specific situations.
                  Not explained elsewhere.<br>
                  <br>
                  Ciao, Albrecht<br>
                  <br>
                   
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.11.2015 um 20:31
                    schrieb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      href="af.kracklauer@web.de" target="_parent">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:</div>
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                      <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Your proposed experiment is hampered by
                        reality!  If you do the measurement with a gaget
                        bought in a store that has knobes and a display,
                        then the measurement is for certain for signals
                        under a couple hundred GHz and based on some
                        phenomena for which the sensitivity of man-made
                        devices is limited.  And, if limited to the
                        electric field, then there is a good chance it
                        is missing altogether oscillating signals by
                        virtue of its limited reaction time of reset
                        time, etc. etc.  The vast majority of the
                        background will be much higher, the phenomena
                        most attuned to detecting might be in fact the
                        quantum effects otherwise explained with
                        mystical hokus-pokus!  Also to be noted is that,
                        the processes invovled in your model, if they
                        pertain to elementray entities, will have to be
                        at very small size and if at the velocity (c)
                        will be very high energy, etc. so that once
                        again, it is quite reasonable to suppose that
                        the universe is anything but irrelavant! </div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Of course, there is then the issue of the
                        divergence of the this SED background.
                         Ameliorated to some extent with the realization
                        that there is no energy at a point in empty
                        space until a charged entity is put there,
                        whereupon the energy of interaction with the
                        rest of the universe (not just by itself being
                        there and ignoring the universe---as QM
                        theorists, and yourself, are wont to do) is
                        given by the sum of interactions over all
                        particles not by the integral over all space,
                        including empty space.  Looks at first blush to
                        be finite. </div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Why fight it?  Where the hell else will you
                        find a credible 2nd particle?  </div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>ciao,  Al</div>
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                          <div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag,
                            13. November 2015 um 12:11 Uhr<br>
                            <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                              href="genmail@a-giese.de" target="_parent"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                            <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="af.kracklauer@web.de"
                              target="_parent">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                              target="_parent">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                            <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of
                            comments from what a model…</div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="background-color:
                              rgb(255,255,255);">Hi Al,<br>
                              <br>
                              if we look to charges you mention the law
                              1/r<sup>2</sup>. Now we can perform a
                              simple physical experiment having an
                              electrically charged object and using it
                              to measure the electric field around us. I
                              say: it is very weak. Now look to the
                              distance of the two half-charges within
                              the particle having a distance of 4*10<sup>-13</sup>
                              m. This means an increase of force of
                              about 25 orders of magnitude compared to
                              what we do in a lab. And the difference is
                              much greater if we refer to charges acting
                              from the universe. So I think we do not
                              make a big mistake assuming that there is
                              nothing outside the particle.<br>
                              <br>
                              Regarding my model, the logic of deduction
                              was very simple for me:<br>
                              <br>
                              1.) We have dilation, so there must be a
                              permanent motion with c<br>
                              2.) There must be 2 sub-particles
                              otherwise the momentum law is violated; 3
                              are not possible as in conflict with
                              experiments.<br>
                              3.) The sub-particles must be mass-less,
                              otherwise c is not possible<br>
                              4.) The whole particle has mass even
                              though the sub-particles are mass-less. So
                              there must be a mechanism to cause
                              inertia. It was immediately clear for me
                              that inertia is a consequence of
                              extension. Another reason to assume a
                              particle which is composed of parts.
                              (There is no other working mechanism of
                              inertia known until today.)<br>
                              5.) I had to find the binding field for
                              the sub-particles. I have taken the
                              simplest one which I could find which has
                              a potential minimum at some distance. And
                              my first attempt worked.<br>
                              <br>
                              That is all, and I do not see any
                              possibility to change one of the points
                              1.) thru 5.) without getting in conflict
                              with fundamental physical rules. And I do
                              not invent new facts or rules beyond those
                              already known in physics.<br>
                              <br>
                              So, where do you see any kind of
                              arbitrariness or missing justification?<br>
                              <br>
                              Tschüß!<br>
                              Albrecht<br>
                              <br>
                               
                              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.11.2015
                                um 17:51 schrieb <a
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                                    <div>Hi Albrect:</div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>We are making some progress.  </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>To your remark that Swinger
                                      & Feynman introduced virtual
                                      charges, I note that they used the
                                      same term: "virtual
                                      charge/particle," in spite of the
                                      much older meaning in accord with
                                      the charge and mirror example.  In
                                      the finest of quantum traditions,
                                      they too ignored the rest of the
                                      universe and instead tried to vest
                                      its effect in the "vacuum."  This
                                      idea was suitably mystical to
                                      allow them to introduce the
                                      associated plaver into the folk
                                      lore of QM, given the sociology of
                                      the day.  Even in spite of this
                                      BS, the idea still has merit. Your
                                      objection on the basis of the 1/r²
                                      fall-off is true but not
                                      conclusive.  This fall-off is
                                      matched by a r² increase in muber
                                      of charges, so the integrated
                                      total interaction can be expected
                                      to have at least some effect, no
                                      matter what.  Think of the
                                      universe to 1st order as a
                                      neutral, low-density plasma. <span>I
                                        (and some others) hold that this
                                        interaction is responcible for
                                        all quantum effects.  In any
                                        case, no particle is a universe
                                        unto itself, the rest have the
                                        poulation and time to take a
                                        toll!  </span></div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div><span>BTW, this is history
                                        repeating itself.  Once upon a
                                        time there was theory of
                                        Brownian motion that posited an
                                        internal cause known as "elan
                                        vital" to dust specks observed
                                        hopping about like Mexican
                                        jumping beans.  Ultimately this
                                        nonsense was displaced by the
                                        observation that the dust spots
                                        were not alone in their
                                        immediate universe but
                                        imbededded in a slurry of other
                                        particles, also in motion, to
                                        which they were reacting.
                                         Nowadays atoms are analysed in
                                        QM text books as if they were
                                        the only object in the
                                        universe---all others being too
                                        far away (so it is argued,
                                        anyway).  </span></div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div><span>Your model, as it stands,
                                        can be free of contradiction and
                                        still unstatisfying because the
                                        inputs seem to be just what is
                                        needed to make the conclusions
                                        you aim to make.  Fine, but what
                                        most critics will expect is that
                                        these inputs have to have some
                                        kind of justification or
                                        motivation.  This is what the
                                        second particle lacks.  Where is
                                        it when one really looks for it?
                                         It has no empirical motivation.
                                          Thus, this theory then has
                                        about the same ultimate
                                        structure, and pursuasiveness,
                                        as saying: 'don't worry about
                                        it, God did it; go home, open a
                                        beer, pop your feet up, and
                                        forget about it---a theory which
                                        explains absolutely everything!</span></div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div><span>Tschuß,  Al</span></div>
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                                          0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag,
                                          12. November 2015 um 16:18 Uhr<br>
                                          <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht
                                          Giese" <a
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                                          <b>An:</b> <a
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                                          <b>Cc:</b> <a
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                                          <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General]
                                          Reply of comments from what a
                                          model…</div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div style="background-color:
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                                              size="-1">Hi Al,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              I have gotten a different
                                              understanding of what a
                                              virtual particle or a
                                              virtual charge is. This
                                              phenomenon was invented by
                                              Julian Schwinger and
                                              Richard Feynman. They
                                              thought to need it in
                                              order to explain certain
                                              reactions in particle
                                              physics. In the case of
                                              Schwinger it was the Landé
                                              factor, where I have shown
                                              that this assumption is
                                              not necessary.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              If there is a charge then
                                              of course this charge is
                                              subject to interactions
                                              with all other charges in
                                              the universe. That is
                                              correct. But because of
                                              the normal distribution of
                                              these other charges in the
                                              universe, which cause a
                                              good compensation of the
                                              effects, and because of
                                              the distance law we can
                                              think about models without
                                              reference to those. And
                                              also there is the problem
                                              with virtual particles and
                                              vacuum polarization (which
                                              is equivalent), in that we
                                              have this huge problem
                                              that the integrated energy
                                              of it over the universe is
                                              by a factor of 10^120
                                              higher than the energy
                                              measured. I think this is
                                              a really big argument
                                              against virtual effects.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Your example of the
                                              virtual image of a charge
                                              in a conducting surface is
                                              a different case. It is,
                                              as you write, the
                                              rearrangement of charges
                                              in the conducting surface.
                                              So the partner of the
                                              charge is physically the
                                              mirror, not the picture
                                              behind it. But which
                                              mirror can cause the
                                              second particle in a model
                                              if the second particle is
                                              not assumed to be real?<br>
                                              <br>
                                              And what in general is the
                                              problem with a two
                                              particle model? It fulfils
                                              the momentum law. And it
                                              does not cause further
                                              conflicts. It also
                                              explains why an
                                              accelerated electron
                                              sometimes radiates,
                                              sometimes not. For an
                                              experimental evidence I
                                              refer again to the article
                                              of Frank Wilczek in
                                              "Nature" which was
                                              mentioned here earlier:<br>
                                              <br>
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                                            <div class="t m88 x28 h2 y37
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class="current-selection">He writes: "By co</span></span><span
                                                  class="current-selection">mb</span><span
class="current-selection">ining fragmen</span><span
                                                  class="current-selection">tatio</span><span
class="current-selection">n with su</span><span
                                                  class="current-selection">per</span><span
                                                  class="ls0 ws0
                                                  current-selection">-</span><span
class="current-selection">con</span><span class="current-selection">ductivity</span><span
class="current-selection">, w</span><span class="current-selection">e
                                                  can get half-electro</span><span
class="current-selection">ns tha</span><span class="current-selection">t
                                                </span></small><small><span
class="current-selection">ar</span><span class="current-selection">e
                                                  their o</span><span
                                                  class="current-selection">wn
                                                  an</span><span><span
                                                    class="current-selection">tiparticles."
                                                  </span><br>
                                                   </span></small></div>
                                            <font size="-1">For Wilczek
                                              this is a mysterious
                                              result, in view of my
                                              model it is not, on the
                                              contrary it is kind of a
                                              proof.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Grüße<br>
                                              Albrecht</font><br>
                                            <br>
                                             
                                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font
                                                size="-1">Am 12.11.2015
                                                um 03:06 schrieb <a
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class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:</font></div>
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                                                  <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>Virtual particles
                                                    are proxys for an
                                                    ensemble of real
                                                    particles.  There is
                                                    nothing folly-lolly
                                                    about them!  They
                                                    simply summarize the
                                                    total effect of
                                                    particles that
                                                    cannot be ignored.
                                                     To ignore the
                                                    remainder of the
                                                    universe becasue it
                                                    is inconvenient for
                                                    theory formulation
                                                    is for certain
                                                    leading to error.
                                                     "No man is an
                                                    island,"  and no
                                                    single particle is a
                                                    universe!  Thus, it
                                                    can be argued that,
                                                    to reject the
                                                    concept of virtual
                                                    particles is to
                                                    reject a facit of
                                                    reality that must be
                                                    essential for an
                                                    explantion of the
                                                    material world.</div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>For example, if a
                                                    positive charge is
                                                    placed near a
                                                    conducting surface,
                                                    the charges in that
                                                    surface will respond
                                                    to the positive
                                                    charge by
                                                    rearranging
                                                    themselves so as to
                                                    give a total field
                                                    on the surface of
                                                    zero strength as if
                                                    there were a
                                                    negative charge
                                                    (virtual) behind the
                                                    mirror.  Without the
                                                    real charges on the
                                                    mirror surface, the
                                                    concept of "virtual"
                                                    negative charge
                                                    would not be
                                                    necessary or even
                                                    useful.  </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>The concept of
                                                    virtual charge as
                                                    the second particle
                                                    in your model seems
                                                    to me to be not just
                                                    a wild supposition,
                                                    but an absolute
                                                    necessity.  Every
                                                    charge is, without
                                                    choice, in constant
                                                    interaction with
                                                    every other charge
                                                    in the universe, has
                                                    been so since the
                                                    big bang (if such
                                                    were) and will
                                                    remain so till the
                                                    big crunch (if such
                                                    is to be)!  The
                                                    universe cannot be
                                                    ignored. If you
                                                    reject including the
                                                    universe by means of
                                                    virtual charges,
                                                    them you have a lot
                                                    more work to do to
                                                    make your theory
                                                    reasonable some how
                                                    else.  In particular
                                                    in view of the fact
                                                    that the second
                                                    particles in your
                                                    model have never
                                                    ever been seen or
                                                    even suspected in
                                                    the various
                                                    experiments
                                                    resulting in the
                                                    disasssmbly of
                                                    whatever targert was
                                                    used.  </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>MfG,  Al</div>
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