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    Hi Al,<br>
    <br>
    I have nothing better to answer than to point again to the fact that
    this set up of two particles not only explains the fact of inertia,
    but also yields very precise results. I have not heard yet about
    another theory which is even able to provide the first point.<br>
    <br>
    And there is no experiment (no one has given an argument into that
    direction) which is in conflict with this assumption. <br>
    <br>
    What else can one expect from a theory? Right, if another theory,
    which is simpler by being based on a smaller number of assumptions,
    yields the same result. So, which one??<br>
    <br>
    Best regards<br>
    Albrecht<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.11.2015 um 20:04 schrieb <a
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          <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>I have and had nothing to say about your motivation <em>per

              se</em>.  I tried to say that, I see no physical-empirical
            justification for the 2nd particle.  The issue is not that I
            do not, or can not, follow your arguments, but that I find
            them incomplete (as just mentioned).  I note that others
            have made the same objection.  Obendarauf, I have made my
            own suggestion for a motivation for the 2nd particle, namely
            a virtual image.  If you don't like this idea, fine!  It
            would be easier to swallow, however, if you gave a sensible
            reason, but that is secondary.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>BTW, <em>a postiriori  </em>success could justify a
            search for empirical support for the 2nd particle, but not a
            complete theory---until empirical evidence is found.  There
            are literally hundreds of candiate theories for everything,
            Few are taken at all seriously because they are jumbeled up
            in their fundamentals:  primative element selction, and
            whatnot.  That fact that, histrical celeberties got away
            with it, is part luck and a lot of sociological guerilla
            warfare---techniques not availble to us in the trenches.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Another result of formal logic is that, within an
            inconsistent logical sturture (theory) all theorems, right
            or wrong, can be proven.  Thus, too much success is
            suspicious!</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Best regards,  Al</div>
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              <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch,
                18. November 2015 um 11:03 Uhr<br>
                <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
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                  href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                <b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of comments from
                what a model…</div>
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                <div style="background-color: rgb(255,255,255);"><small>Hi

                    Al,<br>
                    <br>
                    <font color="#006600">I completely disagree with
                      your conclusions about the motivation towards my
                      model because my intention was not to develop a
                      particle model. My intention was to develop a
                      better understanding of time in relativity. My
                      present model was an unexpected consequence of
                      this work.  I show you my arguments again and ask
                      you to indicate the point where you do not follow.</font></small><br>
                   
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><small>Am 17.11.2015 um
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                        <div>Hi Albrect:</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Comments²   <strong>IN BOLD</strong></div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag,

                              17. November 2015 um 18:41 Uhr<br>
                              <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht Giese" <a
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                                href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                              <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="af.kracklauer@web.de"
                                target="_parent">af.kracklauer@web.de</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                                target="_parent">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                              <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Reply of
                              comments from what a model…</div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="background-color:
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                                  <br>
                                  again some responses.</small><br>
                                 
                                <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><small>Am
                                    14.11.2015 um 18:24 schrieb <a
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                                      href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:</small></div>
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                                      <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>Answers to your questions:</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>1) The SED background
                                        explains the Planck BB
                                        distribution  without
                                        quantization. It explans why an
                                        atom doesn't collapse: in
                                        equilibrium with background, In
                                        fact, just about every effect
                                        described by 2nd quantization
                                        has an SED parallel explantion
                                        without  additional
                                        considerations.  With the
                                        additional input of the SED
                                        origin of deBroglie waves, it
                                        provides a direct derivation of
                                        the Schröedinger eq. thereby
                                        explainiong all of 1st
                                        Quantization.</div>
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                                <div><small>Maybe you achieve something
                                    when using SED background. I do not
                                    really understand this background,
                                    but I do not see a stringent
                                    necessity for it. But SED as an
                                    origin to the de Broglie waves is of
                                    interest for me. I am presently
                                    working on de Broglie waves to find
                                    a solution, which does not have the
                                    logical conflicts which we have
                                    discussed here.</small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><strong>See No. 11 (or 1) @ <a
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                                      for suggetions and some previous
                                    work along this line.</strong></div>
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                  <font color="#006600"><small><strong>Thank you, will
                        have a look.</strong></small></font>
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                                      <div>2) Olber's logic is in
                                        conflict with Mach's Principle,
                                        so is obviously just valid for
                                        visible light.  Given a little
                                        intergalacitc plasma (1 H/m³),
                                        not to mention atmossphere and
                                        interplanatary plama, visible
                                        light disappears to Earthbound
                                        observers at visitble freqs to
                                        reappear at other, perhaps at
                                        2.7° even, or at any other long
                                        or hyper short wave length.
                                         'The universe matters'---which
                                        is even politically correct
                                        nowadays!</div>
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                                <div><small>Olber's logic is simple in
                                    so far, as it shows that the
                                    universe cannot be infinite. I have
                                    assumed the same for all background
                                    effects. Or are they infinite?</small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><small><strong>The fly in the
                                      ointment is absorbtion.  An inf.
                                      universe with absorbtion in the
                                      visible part of the spectrum will
                                      still have a largely dark sky.  </strong></small></div>
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                  <font color="#006600"><small><strong>And the other way
                        around: Even if there is no absorption, the sky
                        will be dark. And the general opinion is that,
                        even if there is a lot of radiation absorbed,
                        this absorbing material will heat up by the time
                        and radiate as well. So an absorption should not
                        change too much.</strong></small></font>
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                                  <small>What is the conflict with
                                    Mach's principle?</small></div>
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                                <div><strong>Mach says: the
                                    gravitational "background radiation"
                                    is the cause of inertia. This effect
                                    is parallel to the SED bacground
                                    causing QM effects. Conflict: if
                                    Olber is right, then Mach is
                                    probably wrong (too weak).</strong></div>
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                  <font color="#006600"><small><strong>In my
                        understanding, what Mach means is completely
                        different. Mach's intention was to find a
                        reference system which is absolute with respect
                        to acceleration. He assumed that this is caused
                        by the stars in our vicinity. He did not have a
                        certain idea how this happens, he only needed
                        the fact. (Einstein replaced this necessity by
                        his equivalence of gravity and acceleration -
                        which however is clearly falsified as mentioned
                        several times.)</strong></small></font>
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                                      <div>3) The (wide spread)
                                        criticism of 2 particles is that
                                        there is neither an <em>a-priori</em>
                                        intuative reason, nor empirical
                                        evidence that they exist.  Maybe
                                        they do anyway.  But then, maybe
                                        Zeus does too, and he is just
                                        arranging appearances so that we
                                        amuse ourselves.  (Try to prove
                                        that wrong!) </div>
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                                <div><small>I have explained how I came
                                    to the conclusion of 2
                                    sub-particles. Again:<br>
                                    <br>
                                    1) There is motion with c in an
                                    elementary particle to explain
                                    dilation<br>
                                    2) With only on particle such
                                    process is mechanically not
                                    possible, and it violates the
                                    conservation of momentum<br>
                                    3) In this way it is the only
                                    working model theses days to explain
                                    inertia. And this model explains
                                    inertia with high precision. What
                                    more is needed?</small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><small><strong>These assumtions are
                                      "teleological,"  i.e., tuned to
                                      give the desired results.  As
                                      logic, although often done, this
                                      manuver is not legit in the formal
                                      presentation of a theory.  For a
                                      physics theory, ideally, all the
                                      input assuptios have empirical
                                      justification or motivation.  Your
                                      2nd partical (modulo virtual
                                      images) has no such motivatin, in
                                      fact, just the opposite. </strong></small></div>
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                  <font color="#006600"><small><strong>My logical way is
                        just the other way around. I had the plan to
                        work on relativity (the aspects of time), not on
                        particle physics. The particle model was an
                        unplanned spin-off.   I shall try to explain the
                        logical path again:<br>
                        <br>
                        <u>1st step:</u> I have calculated the
                        4-dimensional speed of an object using the
                        temporal part of the Lorentz transformation. The
                        surprising fact was that this 4-dim. speed is
                        always the speed of light. I have then assumed
                        that this constant shows a permanent motion with
                        c in a particle. I have accepted this as a
                        probable solution, but I have never assumed
                        this, before I had this result. It was in no way
                        a desired result. My idea was to describe time
                        by a vector of 3 of 4 dimensions. - I have then
                      </strong></small></font><font color="#006600"><small><strong>no

                        further </strong></small></font><font
                    color="#006600"><small><strong>followed this idea.<br>
                        <u>2nd step:</u> If there is some motion in the
                        particle, it cannot be caused by one
                        constituent. This is logically not possible as
                        it violates the conservation of momentum. Also
                        this was not a desired result but logically
                        inevitable.<br>
                        <u>3rd step:</u> If the constituents move with
                        c, then they cannot have any mass. Also this was
                        not a result which I wished to achieve, but here
                        I followed my understanding of relativity.</strong></small></font><br>
                  <strong><small><font color="#006600"><u><strong>4th </strong></u><u>step:</u>
                        The size must be such that the resulting
                        frequency in the view of c yields the magnetic
                        moment which is known by measurements.<br>
                        <u>5th step:</u> I had to find a reason for the
                        mass of the electron in spite of the fact that
                        the constituents do not have any mass. After
                        some thinking I found out the fact that any
                        extended object has necessarily inertia. I have
                        applied this insight to this particle model, and
                        the result was the actual mass of the electron,
                        if I assumed that the force is the strong force.
                        It could not be the electric force (as it was
                        assumed by others at earlier times) because the
                        result is too weak.<br>
                        <br>
                        None of the results from step 1 thru step 5 was
                        desired. Every step was inevitable, because our
                        standard physical understanding (which I did not
                        change at any point) does not allow for any
                        alternative. - <u>Or at which step could I hav</u><u>e
                          had an alternative in your opinion?</u><br>
                        <br>
                        And btw: which is the stringent argument for
                        only one constituent? As I mentioned before, the
                        experiment is not an argument. I have discussed
                        my model with the former research director of
                        DESY who was responsible for this type of
                        electron experiments, and he admitted that there
                        is no conflict with the assumption of 2
                        constituents.</font></small></strong>
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                                  <small>I know from several discussions
                                    with particle physicists that there
                                    is a lot of resistance against this
                                    assumption of 2 constituents. The
                                    reason is that everyone learn at
                                    university like with mother's milk
                                    that the electron is point-like,
                                    extremely small and does not have
                                    any internal structure. This has the
                                    effect like a religion. (Same with
                                    the relativity of Hendrik Lorentz.
                                    Everyone learns with the same
                                    fundamental attitude that Lorentz
                                    was nothing better than a senile old
                                    man how was not able to understand
                                    modern physics.)  -  Not a really
                                    good way, all this.</small></div>
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                                <div><small><strong>Mystical thinking is
                                      indeed a major problem even in
                                      Physics!  But,  some of the
                                      objectiors to a 2nd particle are
                                      not basing their objection of
                                      devine revelation or political
                                      correctness.  </strong></small></div>
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                                      <div>4) It is ascientific to
                                        consider that the desired result
                                        is justification for a
                                        hypothetical input.  OK, one can
                                        say about such reasoning, it is
                                        validated <em>a posteriori</em>,
                                        that at least makes it sound
                                        substantial.  So much has been
                                        granted to your "story" but has
                                        not granted your story status as
                                        a "physics theory."  It has some
                                        appeal, which in my mind would
                                        be enhansed had a
                                        rationalization for the 2nd
                                        particle been provided.  That's
                                        all I'm trying to do.  When you
                                        or whoever comes up with a
                                        better one, I'll drop pushing
                                        the virtual particle engendered
                                        by the background. Maybe, it
                                        fixes too many other things.</div>
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                                <div><small>My history was following
                                    another way and another motivation.
                                    I intended to explain relativity on
                                    the basis of physical facts. This
                                    was my only intention for this
                                    model. All further properties of the
                                    model were logical consequences
                                    where I did not see alternatives. I
                                    did not want to explain inertia. It
                                    just was a result by itself.<br>
                                    So, what is the problem? I have a
                                    model which explains several
                                    properties of elementary particles
                                    very precisely. It is in no conflict
                                    with any experimental experience.
                                    And as a new observation there is
                                    even some experimental evidence. -
                                    What else can physics expect from a
                                    theory? - The argument that the
                                    second particle is not visible is
                                    funny. Who has ever seen a quark?
                                    Who has ever seen the internal
                                    structure of the sun? I think you
                                    have a demand here which was never
                                    fulfilled in science.</small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><small><strong>The problem,
                                      obviously, is that the existence
                                      of the 2nd particle, as you have
                                      presented it, is not a fact, but a
                                      Wunschansatz.  [BTW:  "See" in
                                      this context is not meant
                                      occularly, but figuratively for
                                      experimental verification through
                                      any length of inferance chain.]
                                       So, my question is: what problem
                                      do you have with a virtual mate
                                      for the particle?  In fact, it
                                      will be there whether you use it
                                      or not.</strong><br>
                                    <br>
                                    And see again Frank Wilczek. </small><small><span><span
                                        class="current-selection">He
                                        writes: "By co</span></span><span
                                      class="current-selection">mb</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">ining
                                      fragmen</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">tatio</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">n with
                                      su</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">per</span><span
                                      class="ls0 ws0 current-selection">-</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">con</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">ductivity</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">, w</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">e can
                                      get half-electro</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">ns tha</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">t </span></small><small><span
                                      class="current-selection">ar</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">e their
                                      o</span><span
                                      class="current-selection">wn an</span><span><span
                                        class="current-selection">tiparticles."

                                      </span></span></small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><small><span><span
                                        class="current-selection"><strong>A
                                          "straw in the wind" but sure
                                          seems far fetched!
                                           Superconductivity is already
                                          a manybody phenomenon,  It's
                                          theory probably involves some
                                          "virtual" notions to capture
                                          the essence of the average
                                          effect even if the virtual
                                          actors do not really exist. </strong></span></span></small></div>
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                  <small><strong><font color="#006600">This was a nice
                        confirmation in my understanding. So as the
                        whole article of Wilczek. The electron is in
                        fact enigmatic if one follows main stream. It
                        looses a lot of this property if my model is
                        used. - But even without this experimental hint
                        I do not see any alternative to my model without
                        severely violating known physics.<br>
                        <br>
                        Ciao<br>
                        Albrecht</font></strong></small><br>
                   
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                                  <br>
                                  <small>Guten Abend<br>
                                    Albrecht</small></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><small><strong>Gleichfalls,  Al</strong></small></div>
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                                      <div>Have a good one!   Al</div>
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                                            14. November 2015 um 14:51
                                            Uhr<br>
                                            <b>Von:</b> "Dr. Albrecht
                                            Giese" <a
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                                            <b>An:</b> <a
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href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a><br>
                                            <b>Cc:</b> <a
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                                            <b>Betreff:</b> Re:
                                            [General] Reply of comments
                                            from what a model…</div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div
                                              style="background-color:
                                              rgb(255,255,255);">Hi Al,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Why do we need a
                                              background? If I assume
                                              only local forces (strong
                                              and electric) for my
                                              model, the calculation
                                              conforms to the
                                              measurement (e.g. between
                                              mass and magnetic moment)
                                              with a precision of 2 :
                                              1'000'000. This is no
                                              incident. Not possible, if
                                              a poorly defined and
                                              stable background has a
                                              measurable influence. -
                                              And if there should be
                                              such background and it has
                                              such little effect, which
                                              mistake do we make if we
                                              ignore that?<br>
                                              <br>
                                              For the competition of the
                                              1/r<sup>2</sup> law for
                                              range of charges and the r<sup>2</sup>
                                              law for the quantity of
                                              charges we have a popular
                                              example when we look at
                                              the sky at night. The sky
                                              is dark and that shows
                                              that the r<sup>2</sup>
                                              case (number of shining
                                              stars) does in no way
                                              compensates for the 1/r<sup>2</sup>
                                              case (light flow density
                                              from the stars).<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Why is a 2 particle model
                                              necessary?<br>
                                              <br>
                                              1.) for the conservation
                                              of momentum<br>
                                              2.) for a cause of the
                                              inertial mass<br>
                                              3.) for the radiation at
                                              acceleration which occurs
                                              most time, but does not
                                              occur in specific
                                              situations. Not explained
                                              elsewhere.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Ciao, Albrecht<br>
                                              <br>
                                               
                                              <div
                                                class="moz-cite-prefix">Am

                                                13.11.2015 um 20:31
                                                schrieb <a
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href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:</div>
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                                                  <div>Hi Albrecht:</div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>Your proposed
                                                    experiment is
                                                    hampered by reality!
                                                     If you do the
                                                    measurement with a
                                                    gaget bought in a
                                                    store that has
                                                    knobes and a
                                                    display, then the
                                                    measurement is for
                                                    certain for signals
                                                    under a couple
                                                    hundred GHz and
                                                    based on some
                                                    phenomena for which
                                                    the sensitivity of
                                                    man-made devices is
                                                    limited.  And, if
                                                    limited to the
                                                    electric field, then
                                                    there is a good
                                                    chance it is missing
                                                    altogether
                                                    oscillating signals
                                                    by virtue of its
                                                    limited reaction
                                                    time of reset time,
                                                    etc. etc.  The vast
                                                    majority of the
                                                    background will be
                                                    much higher, the
                                                    phenomena most
                                                    attuned to detecting
                                                    might be in fact the
                                                    quantum effects
                                                    otherwise explained
                                                    with mystical
                                                    hokus-pokus!  Also
                                                    to be noted is that,
                                                    the processes
                                                    invovled in your
                                                    model, if they
                                                    pertain to
                                                    elementray entities,
                                                    will have to be at
                                                    very small size and
                                                    if at the velocity
                                                    (c) will be very
                                                    high energy, etc. so
                                                    that once again, it
                                                    is quite reasonable
                                                    to suppose that the
                                                    universe is anything
                                                    but irrelavant! </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>Of course, there
                                                    is then the issue of
                                                    the divergence of
                                                    the this SED
                                                    background.
                                                     Ameliorated to some
                                                    extent with the
                                                    realization that
                                                    there is no energy
                                                    at a point in empty
                                                    space until a
                                                    charged entity is
                                                    put there, whereupon
                                                    the energy of
                                                    interaction with the
                                                    rest of the universe
                                                    (not just by itself
                                                    being there and
                                                    ignoring the
                                                    universe---as QM
                                                    theorists, and
                                                    yourself, are wont
                                                    to do) is given by
                                                    the sum of
                                                    interactions over
                                                    all particles not by
                                                    the integral over
                                                    all space, including
                                                    empty space.  Looks
                                                    at first blush to be
                                                    finite. </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>Why fight it?
                                                     Where the hell else
                                                    will you find a
                                                    credible 2nd
                                                    particle?  </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>ciao,  Al</div>
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                                                        13. November
                                                        2015 um 12:11
                                                        Uhr<br>
                                                        <b>Von:</b> "Dr.
                                                        Albrecht Giese"
                                                        <a
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                                                        <b>An:</b> <a
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href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a><br>
                                                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
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href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a><br>
                                                        <b>Betreff:</b> Re:

                                                        [General] Reply
                                                        of comments from
                                                        what a model…</div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div
                                                          style="background-color:
rgb(255,255,255);">Hi Al,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if we look to
                                                          charges you
                                                          mention the
                                                          law 1/r<sup>2</sup>.
                                                          Now we can
                                                          perform a
                                                          simple
                                                          physical
                                                          experiment
                                                          having an
                                                          electrically
                                                          charged object
                                                          and using it
                                                          to measure the
                                                          electric field
                                                          around us. I
                                                          say: it is
                                                          very weak. Now
                                                          look to the
                                                          distance of
                                                          the two
                                                          half-charges
                                                          within the
                                                          particle
                                                          having a
                                                          distance of
                                                          4*10<sup>-13</sup>
                                                          m. This means
                                                          an increase of
                                                          force of about
                                                          25 orders of
                                                          magnitude
                                                          compared to
                                                          what we do in
                                                          a lab. And the
                                                          difference is
                                                          much greater
                                                          if we refer to
                                                          charges acting
                                                          from the
                                                          universe. So I
                                                          think we do
                                                          not make a big
                                                          mistake
                                                          assuming that
                                                          there is
                                                          nothing
                                                          outside the
                                                          particle.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regarding my
                                                          model, the
                                                          logic of
                                                          deduction was
                                                          very simple
                                                          for me:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1.) We have
                                                          dilation, so
                                                          there must be
                                                          a permanent
                                                          motion with c<br>
                                                          2.) There must
                                                          be 2
                                                          sub-particles
                                                          otherwise the
                                                          momentum law
                                                          is violated; 3
                                                          are not
                                                          possible as in
                                                          conflict with
                                                          experiments.<br>
                                                          3.) The
                                                          sub-particles
                                                          must be
                                                          mass-less,
                                                          otherwise c is
                                                          not possible<br>
                                                          4.) The whole
                                                          particle has
                                                          mass even
                                                          though the
                                                          sub-particles
                                                          are mass-less.
                                                          So there must
                                                          be a mechanism
                                                          to cause
                                                          inertia. It
                                                          was
                                                          immediately
                                                          clear for me
                                                          that inertia
                                                          is a
                                                          consequence of
                                                          extension.
                                                          Another reason
                                                          to assume a
                                                          particle which
                                                          is composed of
                                                          parts. (There
                                                          is no other
                                                          working
                                                          mechanism of
                                                          inertia known
                                                          until today.)<br>
                                                          5.) I had to
                                                          find the
                                                          binding field
                                                          for the
                                                          sub-particles.
                                                          I have taken
                                                          the simplest
                                                          one which I
                                                          could find
                                                          which has a
                                                          potential
                                                          minimum at
                                                          some distance.
                                                          And my first
                                                          attempt
                                                          worked.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          That is all,
                                                          and I do not
                                                          see any
                                                          possibility to
                                                          change one of
                                                          the points 1.)
                                                          thru 5.)
                                                          without
                                                          getting in
                                                          conflict with
                                                          fundamental
                                                          physical
                                                          rules. And I
                                                          do not invent
                                                          new facts or
                                                          rules beyond
                                                          those already
                                                          known in
                                                          physics.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          So, where do
                                                          you see any
                                                          kind of
                                                          arbitrariness
                                                          or missing
                                                          justification?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Tschüß!<br>
                                                          Albrecht<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           
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                                                          12.11.2015 um
                                                          17:51 schrieb
                                                          <a
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                                                          <blockquote>
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                                                          <div>Hi
                                                          Albrect:</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>We are
                                                          making some
                                                          progress.  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>To your
                                                          remark that
                                                          Swinger &
                                                          Feynman
                                                          introduced
                                                          virtual
                                                          charges, I
                                                          note that they
                                                          used the same
                                                          term: "virtual
                                                          charge/particle,"

                                                          in spite of
                                                          the much older
                                                          meaning in
                                                          accord with
                                                          the charge and
                                                          mirror
                                                          example.  In
                                                          the finest of
                                                          quantum
                                                          traditions,
                                                          they too
                                                          ignored the
                                                          rest of the
                                                          universe and
                                                          instead tried
                                                          to vest its
                                                          effect in the
                                                          "vacuum."
                                                           This idea was
                                                          suitably
                                                          mystical to
                                                          allow them to
                                                          introduce the
                                                          associated
                                                          plaver into
                                                          the folk lore
                                                          of QM, given
                                                          the sociology
                                                          of the day.
                                                           Even in spite
                                                          of this BS,
                                                          the idea still
                                                          has merit.
                                                          Your objection
                                                          on the basis
                                                          of the 1/r²
                                                          fall-off is
                                                          true but not
                                                          conclusive.
                                                           This fall-off
                                                          is matched by
                                                          a r² increase
                                                          in muber of
                                                          charges, so
                                                          the integrated
                                                          total
                                                          interaction
                                                          can be
                                                          expected to
                                                          have at least
                                                          some effect,
                                                          no matter
                                                          what.  Think
                                                          of the
                                                          universe to
                                                          1st order as a
                                                          neutral,
                                                          low-density
                                                          plasma. <span>I
                                                          (and some
                                                          others) hold
                                                          that this
                                                          interaction is
                                                          responcible
                                                          for all
                                                          quantum
                                                          effects.  In
                                                          any case, no
                                                          particle is a
                                                          universe unto
                                                          itself, the
                                                          rest have the
                                                          poulation and
                                                          time to take a
                                                          toll!  </span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span>BTW,

                                                          this is
                                                          history
                                                          repeating
                                                          itself.  Once
                                                          upon a time
                                                          there was
                                                          theory of
                                                          Brownian
                                                          motion that
                                                          posited an
                                                          internal cause
                                                          known as "elan
                                                          vital" to dust
                                                          specks
                                                          observed
                                                          hopping about
                                                          like Mexican
                                                          jumping beans.
                                                           Ultimately
                                                          this nonsense
                                                          was displaced
                                                          by the
                                                          observation
                                                          that the dust
                                                          spots were not
                                                          alone in their
                                                          immediate
                                                          universe but
                                                          imbededded in
                                                          a slurry of
                                                          other
                                                          particles,
                                                          also in
                                                          motion, to
                                                          which they
                                                          were reacting.
                                                           Nowadays
                                                          atoms are
                                                          analysed in QM
                                                          text books as
                                                          if they were
                                                          the only
                                                          object in the
                                                          universe---all
                                                          others being
                                                          too far away
                                                          (so it is
                                                          argued,
                                                          anyway).  </span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span>Your

                                                          model, as it
                                                          stands, can be
                                                          free of
                                                          contradiction
                                                          and still
                                                          unstatisfying
                                                          because the
                                                          inputs seem to
                                                          be just what
                                                          is needed to
                                                          make the
                                                          conclusions
                                                          you aim to
                                                          make.  Fine,
                                                          but what most
                                                          critics will
                                                          expect is that
                                                          these inputs
                                                          have to have
                                                          some kind of
                                                          justification
                                                          or motivation.
                                                           This is what
                                                          the second
                                                          particle
                                                          lacks.  Where
                                                          is it when one
                                                          really looks
                                                          for it?  It
                                                          has no
                                                          empirical
                                                          motivation.  
                                                          Thus, this
                                                          theory then
                                                          has about the
                                                          same ultimate
                                                          structure, and
                                                          pursuasiveness,

                                                          as saying:
                                                          'don't worry
                                                          about it, God
                                                          did it; go
                                                          home, open a
                                                          beer, pop your
                                                          feet up, and
                                                          forget about
                                                          it---a theory
                                                          which explains
                                                          absolutely
                                                          everything!</span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span>Tschuß,

                                                           Al</span></div>
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                                                          12. November
                                                          2015 um 16:18
                                                          Uhr<br>
                                                          <b>Von:</b> "Dr.

                                                          Albrecht
                                                          Giese" <a
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href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a></a><br>
                                                          <b>An:</b> <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a><br>
                                                          <b>Cc:</b> <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                                          href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a><br>
                                                          <b>Betreff:</b> Re:

                                                          [General]
                                                          Reply of
                                                          comments from
                                                          what a model…</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="background-color:
rgb(255,255,255);"><font size="-1">Hi Al,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I have gotten
                                                          a different
                                                          understanding
                                                          of what a
                                                          virtual
                                                          particle or a
                                                          virtual charge
                                                          is. This
                                                          phenomenon was
                                                          invented by
                                                          Julian
                                                          Schwinger and
                                                          Richard
                                                          Feynman. They
                                                          thought to
                                                          need it in
                                                          order to
                                                          explain
                                                          certain
                                                          reactions in
                                                          particle
                                                          physics. In
                                                          the case of
                                                          Schwinger it
                                                          was the Landé
                                                          factor, where
                                                          I have shown
                                                          that this
                                                          assumption is
                                                          not necessary.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If there is a
                                                          charge then of
                                                          course this
                                                          charge is
                                                          subject to
                                                          interactions
                                                          with all other
                                                          charges in the
                                                          universe. That
                                                          is correct.
                                                          But because of
                                                          the normal
                                                          distribution
                                                          of these other
                                                          charges in the
                                                          universe,
                                                          which cause a
                                                          good
                                                          compensation
                                                          of the
                                                          effects, and
                                                          because of the
                                                          distance law
                                                          we can think
                                                          about models
                                                          without
                                                          reference to
                                                          those. And
                                                          also there is
                                                          the problem
                                                          with virtual
                                                          particles and
                                                          vacuum
                                                          polarization
                                                          (which is
                                                          equivalent),
                                                          in that we
                                                          have this huge
                                                          problem that
                                                          the integrated
                                                          energy of it
                                                          over the
                                                          universe is by
                                                          a factor of
                                                          10^120 higher
                                                          than the
                                                          energy
                                                          measured. I
                                                          think this is
                                                          a really big
                                                          argument
                                                          against
                                                          virtual
                                                          effects.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Your example
                                                          of the virtual
                                                          image of a
                                                          charge in a
                                                          conducting
                                                          surface is a
                                                          different
                                                          case. It is,
                                                          as you write,
                                                          the
                                                          rearrangement
                                                          of charges in
                                                          the conducting
                                                          surface. So
                                                          the partner of
                                                          the charge is
                                                          physically the
                                                          mirror, not
                                                          the picture
                                                          behind it. But
                                                          which mirror
                                                          can cause the
                                                          second
                                                          particle in a
                                                          model if the
                                                          second
                                                          particle is
                                                          not assumed to
                                                          be real?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          And what in
                                                          general is the
                                                          problem with a
                                                          two particle
                                                          model? It
                                                          fulfils the
                                                          momentum law.
                                                          And it does
                                                          not cause
                                                          further
                                                          conflicts. It
                                                          also explains
                                                          why an
                                                          accelerated
                                                          electron
                                                          sometimes
                                                          radiates,
                                                          sometimes not.
                                                          For an
                                                          experimental
                                                          evidence I
                                                          refer again to
                                                          the article of
                                                          Frank Wilczek
                                                          in "Nature"
                                                          which was
                                                          mentioned here
                                                          earlier:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com">http://www.nature.com/articles/498031a.epdf?referrer_access_token=ben9To-3oo1NBniBt2zIw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Mr0WZkh3ZGwaOU__QIZA8EEsfyjmdvPM68ya-MFh194zghek6jh7WqtGYeYWmES35o2U71x2DQVk0PFLoHQk5V5M-cak670GmcqKy2iZm7PPrWZKcv_J3SBA-hRXn4VJI1r9NxMvgmKog-topZaM03&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com</a></a>:
                                                          </font><br>
                                                           
                                                          <div class="t
                                                          m88 x28 h2 y37
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class="current-selection">He writes: "By co</span></span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">mb</span><span
class="current-selection">ining fragmen</span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">tatio</span><span
class="current-selection">n with su</span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">per</span><span
                                                          class="ls0 ws0
current-selection">-</span><span class="current-selection">con</span><span
class="current-selection">ductivity</span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">,
                                                          w</span><span
class="current-selection">e can get half-electro</span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">ns

                                                          tha</span><span
class="current-selection">t </span></small><small><span
                                                          class="current-selection">ar</span><span
class="current-selection">e their o</span><span
                                                          class="current-selection">wn

                                                          an</span><span><span
class="current-selection">tiparticles." </span><br>
                                                           </span></small></div>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="-1">For
                                                          Wilczek this
                                                          is a
                                                          mysterious
                                                          result, in
                                                          view of my
                                                          model it is
                                                          not, on the
                                                          contrary it is
                                                          kind of a
                                                          proof.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Grüße<br>
                                                          Albrecht</font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           
                                                          <div
                                                          class="moz-cite-prefix"><font
                                                          size="-1">Am
                                                          12.11.2015 um
                                                          03:06 schrieb
                                                          <a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>:</font></div>
                                                          <blockquote>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Hi
                                                          Albrecht:</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Virtual
                                                          particles are
                                                          proxys for an
                                                          ensemble of
                                                          real
                                                          particles.
                                                           There is
                                                          nothing
                                                          folly-lolly
                                                          about them!
                                                           They simply
                                                          summarize the
                                                          total effect
                                                          of particles
                                                          that cannot be
                                                          ignored.  To
                                                          ignore the
                                                          remainder of
                                                          the universe
                                                          becasue it is
                                                          inconvenient
                                                          for theory
                                                          formulation is
                                                          for certain
                                                          leading to
                                                          error.  "No
                                                          man is an
                                                          island,"  and
                                                          no single
                                                          particle is a
                                                          universe!
                                                           Thus, it can
                                                          be argued
                                                          that, to
                                                          reject the
                                                          concept of
                                                          virtual
                                                          particles is
                                                          to reject a
                                                          facit of
                                                          reality that
                                                          must be
                                                          essential for
                                                          an explantion
                                                          of the
                                                          material
                                                          world.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>For
                                                          example, if a
                                                          positive
                                                          charge is
                                                          placed near a
                                                          conducting
                                                          surface, the
                                                          charges in
                                                          that surface
                                                          will respond
                                                          to the
                                                          positive
                                                          charge by
                                                          rearranging
                                                          themselves so
                                                          as to give a
                                                          total field on
                                                          the surface of
                                                          zero strength
                                                          as if there
                                                          were a
                                                          negative
                                                          charge
                                                          (virtual)
                                                          behind the
                                                          mirror.
                                                           Without the
                                                          real charges
                                                          on the mirror
                                                          surface, the
                                                          concept of
                                                          "virtual"
                                                          negative
                                                          charge would
                                                          not be
                                                          necessary or
                                                          even useful.  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>The
                                                          concept of
                                                          virtual charge
                                                          as the second
                                                          particle in
                                                          your model
                                                          seems to me to
                                                          be not just a
                                                          wild
                                                          supposition,
                                                          but an
                                                          absolute
                                                          necessity.
                                                           Every charge
                                                          is, without
                                                          choice, in
                                                          constant
                                                          interaction
                                                          with every
                                                          other charge
                                                          in the
                                                          universe, has
                                                          been so since
                                                          the big bang
                                                          (if such were)
                                                          and will
                                                          remain so till
                                                          the big crunch
                                                          (if such is to
                                                          be)!  The
                                                          universe
                                                          cannot be
                                                          ignored. If
                                                          you reject
                                                          including the
                                                          universe by
                                                          means of
                                                          virtual
                                                          charges, them
                                                          you have a lot
                                                          more work to
                                                          do to make
                                                          your theory
                                                          reasonable
                                                          some how else.
                                                           In particular
                                                          in view of the
                                                          fact that the
                                                          second
                                                          particles in
                                                          your model
                                                          have never
                                                          ever been seen
                                                          or even
                                                          suspected in
                                                          the various
                                                          experiments
                                                          resulting in
                                                          the
                                                          disasssmbly of
                                                          whatever
                                                          targert was
                                                          used.  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>MfG,  Al</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
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                                        0.0px 15.0px 0.0px 8.0px;"><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                          target="_blank"><img
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            alt="Avast logo"
                                            src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"
                                            border="0"> </a></td>
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                                          rgb(61,77,90);font-family:
                                          Calibri , Verdana , Arial ,
                                          Helvetica;font-size: 12.0pt;">Diese

                                          E-Mail wurde von Avast
                                          Antivirus-Software auf Viren
                                          geprüft.<br>
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                            target="_blank">www.avast.com</a></p>
                                      </td>
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                    rgb(176,176,176);height: 1.0px;width: 99.0%;">
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                        <td style="border: none;padding: 0.0px 15.0px
                          0.0px 8.0px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                            target="_blank"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
                              alt="Avast logo"
                              src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"
                              border="0"> </a></td>
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                          <p style="color: rgb(61,77,90);font-family:
                            Calibri , Verdana , Arial ,
                            Helvetica;font-size: 12.0pt;">Diese E-Mail
                            wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren
                            geprüft.<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                              target="_blank">www.avast.com</a></p>
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                        </a>
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                        <p style='color:#3d4d5a; font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica"; font-size:12pt;'>
                                Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
                                <br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">www.avast.com</a>
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