<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    Sorry, I used the wrong reply button. Long for such a book though
    :-). BR/joakim<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-12-01 05:53, Richard Gauthier
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:CC54BA37-044E-436A-B9D9-52A059024C2E@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div class="">Vivian,</div>
      <div class="">Or at least the forward.</div>
      <div class="">      Richard</div>
      <br class="">
      <div>
        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
          <div class="">On Nov 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Joakim Pettersson
            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:joakimbits@gmail.com" class="">joakimbits@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:</div>
          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
          <div class="">
            <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8"
              http-equiv="Content-Type" class="">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Vivian: What
              if you invited John Williamson to write the first chapter
              of your book? <br class="">
              Besides, a Kickstarter campain for that book could
              probably finance John's work on that chapter and more ;-)!<br
                class="">
              BR/joakim<br class="">
              <br class="">
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-11-30 12:55, Vivian
                Robinson wrote:<br class="">
              </div>
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:5D5D723F-6B5B-4D46-AE2A-391783BA31CD@universephysics.com"
                type="cite" class="">
                <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
                  charset=utf-8" class="">
                <base href="x-msg://10618/" class="">Johns W, H and All
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I would like to add a little to the
                  discussion, particularly John Hodge's request for
                  "What are the fundamentals of the universe? In doing
                  so I wish to shorten John W's list somewhat. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">We have basic physical constants.</div>
                <div class="">Planck's constant <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">         </span>h</div>
                <div class="">Electric charge <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                  </span>e</div>
                <div class="">Gravitational constant <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">   </span>G</div>
                <div class="">Electric permittivity<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">              </span><span
                    style="font-size: 16px; " class="">𝜀</span>o</div>
                <div class="">Magnetic permeability<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span><span
                    style="font-size: 14px; " class="">µ</span>o</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">On top of those we have properties of
                  matter:</div>
                <div class="">Structure<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                          </span>?</div>
                <div class="">Mass<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                       </span>m</div>
                <div class="">Angular momentum<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">           </span>Iω

                  (spin and intrinsic spin)</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Fundamental physical principles:</div>
                <div class="">Conservation of energy, momentum, parity</div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="">Space<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">                                 </span>x,

                    y, z of any value (Empty space has quite a lot of
                    other interesting properties, the greatest of which
                    are <span style="font-size: 16px; " class="">𝜀</span>o
                    and <span style="font-size: 14px; " class="">µ</span>o)</div>
                  <div class="">Position<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span>(wrt

                    an observer)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span>Δx, Δy, Δz

                    from origin x = y = z = 0</div>
                  <div class="">Time (wrt an observer)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">        </span>t </div>
                </div>
                <div class="">Inverse time<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                               </span>ν
                  (frequency)</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I may have left out some and I am sure
                  others will add those I have missed.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Then you have derived properties, </div>
                <div class="">velocity<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                   </span>d(x,y,z)/dt</div>
                <div class="">c<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                          </span>= 1/(<span
                    style="font-size: 16px; " class="">𝜀</span>o<span
                    style="font-size: 14px; " class="">µ</span>o)^2</div>
                <div class="">Energy<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                                     </span>E
                  = mc^2 = hν</div>
                <div class="">Temperature</div>
                <div class="">Pressure</div>
                <div class="">Special and general relativity theories</div>
                <div class="">etc.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">The list of derived properties gets quite
                  large. I would like to go so far and suggest some
                  physical principles, e.g., Pauli's exclusion principle
                  and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle are derived
                  properties based upon the structure of matter. You can
                  argue whether energy is derived or fundamental, in the
                  latter case, frequency and mass are derived.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">As best I can work out this discussion
                  group has been about one of those properties of
                  matter, namely structure. What started out s a
                  discussion on the structure of photons has been
                  extended to proposals for the structure of electrons.
                  While new ideas are welcome, they should fit within a
                  few parameters:-</div>
                <div class="">1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>Known

                  or demonstrable physical particles and principles. The
                  standard model for the structure of sub atomic
                  particles already has 61 fundamental particles (36
                  quarks, 12 leptons, 8 gluons and 5 bosons (including
                  the photon). Of those, none of the 36 quarks and 8
                  gluons have been separately isolated and identified
                  (they are all derived from experiment and
                  mathematics). Only two combinations of two of the
                  quarks form stable nucleons. Only three leptons,
                  electron and electron and anti-electron neutrino, are
                  known to be stable. The demonstration of their
                  physical principles is almost entirely complex
                  mathematics. Increasing that number and complexity on
                  an "it matches a couple of properties" basis is not
                  going to impress anyone unless it answers a lot of
                  other questions.</div>
                <div class="">2<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>Electrons

                  don't exist in isolation. They interact with protons,
                  neutrons and photons in complex manners. If you wish
                  your thoughts to be considered seriously it would be
                  advantageous to show how your structure solves some of
                  the unknowns about those other particles and some of
                  the complex interactions. </div>
                <div class="">3<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>Demonstrate

                  how a proposed structure matches known properties of
                  electrons and preferably predicts unknown properties.</div>
                <div class="">4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>From

                  a personal perspective I would also add that if you
                  can show how your structure leads to what I call
                  derived properties, Pauli's and Heisenberg's
                  principles, relativity etc. that is so much the
                  better.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Having said that, even if you do, there is
                  no guarantee that your ideas will be taken seriously. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I now revert to John H's question, "What
                  are the fundamentals of the universe?" Apart from
                  those listed above and some I may have missed out, my
                  contention is that all matter is made of the same
                  "stuff" (quoting MvdM), and that stuff is photons.
                  Thus the importance of the SPIE conference and this
                  discussion group on "what is a photon?" That the
                  photon is not a well understood entity does not
                  prevent it from being used as the basis of other
                  structures, as long as  known properties
                  are acknowledged. Like others I contend that the
                  electron is a photon (of a particular lower energy)
                  that makes two revolutions within its wavelength to
                  become the particle that is the electron. In order to
                  physically rotate, it must continually emit and absorb
                  (virtual) photons at a constant rate that matches its
                  angular momentum (Iω), giving it the property of
                  electric charge. Its spin is angular momentum, which
                  is made up of the mass of the photon, m = hν/c^2,
                  travelling in a circle of radius hbar/2mc at the speed
                  of light. As it moves, its structure means that it
                  automatically moves according to the special
                  relativity corrections, with the added proviso that
                  its radius must diminish as its velocity increases.
                  This is why the electron is observed as a point
                  particle when scattered at high energy. Its magnetic
                  moment is generated as a combination of the rotating
                  charge and the residual magnetic moment of photon's B
                  field. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">That structure is also the key to
                  Einstein's E = mc^2 equation. When the photon is
                  travelling in a circle, it is mass with angular
                  momentum Iω = half hbar. Unlocking its angular
                  momentum converts it to a linear photon with energy E
                  = mc^2. That model makes a number of testable
                  predictions of unknown electron properties. The two
                  polarities of electric charge are the direction the
                  photon that is the particle rotates wrt its magnetic
                  field. Different charges are mirror images of each
                  other. Spin is quantised because an electron can only
                  spin one way to the other, wrt an observer. The
                  different states of spin are merely "other side of the
                  page" images (measurements) of the same rotating
                  photon.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I also suggest that same model is the
                  basis of the other particles, proton, neutron and
                  neutrino. That enables a good number of properties of
                  the protons and neutrons to be matched (I haven't
                  tried them all), as well as predicting quite a few
                  unknown properties that cn be tested experimentally.
                  It also gives a structure and maximum mass for
                  (electron) neutrinos and shows why they effectively
                  travel at the speed of light c, even though they have
                  mass. The measured diameter of the central core of the
                  nucleons, ≈ 0.105 fm, exactly matches the
                  radius predicted under this model, namely r =
                  hbar/2mc. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">The structure of the nucleons is
                  responsible the generation of the elementary
                  particles. The muons and pions. the longest lived
                  elementary particles, exist inside the nucleons at
                  rest. The remainder are only generated when
                  accelerated nucleons, which have an increased
                  frequency and hence mass, are stopped in a collision.
                  The nucleons now have excess energy of which they must
                  rid themselves because their frequencies are no longer
                  stable under their rest time frame reference. They do
                  so by cascading through a series of quasi stable
                  oscillations, continually generating and emitting
                  muons and pions as circular photons and also energy as
                  linear photons. Muons are 1/9th the fundamental proton
                  frequency and are a single oscillation, giving them
                  angular momentum half hbar. Pions are two oscillations
                  combined, 1/9th plus 1/27th, giving them angular
                  momentum 0 or 1 x hbar and positive, neutral or
                  negative charge depending upon their combination. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">So it goes on. The proposed nucleon
                  structure makes it very easy to understand nuclear
                  binding and the structure of nuclei. You can get some
                  more details at my website <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="http://www.universephysics.com/">www.universephysics.com</a>.
                  I have compiled everything into a publication,
                  Understanding the Physical Universe, of which the
                  website gives over 10% of what is in the book. I must
                  get some time one day to take it a little further. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">In the second chapter I suggest how
                  special relativity is a derived property from the
                  structure of matter. In the last chapters I suggest
                  how general relativity is a derived property from the
                  properties of photons and the principle of
                  conservation of energy. </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">In summary to John H's question, the
                  fundamentals of the universe are a few physical
                  constants, some conservation (and other) principles
                  and the structure of matter based upon the existence
                  of photons. Most of the other properties, special and
                  general relativity, uncertainty and exclusion
                  principles, temperature, etc are derived. Which brings
                  us back to "What is a photon". I am prepared to say "I
                  don't fully understand, but that should stop it from
                  being used in a theory.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Cheers,</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Viv Robinson</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class=""> <br class="">
                  <div class="">
                    <div class="">On 30/11/2015, at 3:07 PM, John
                      Williamson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk">John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk</a>>

                      wrote:</div>
                    <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                      <div ocsi="0" fpstyle="1" style="font-family:
                        Helvetica; font-size: inherit; font-style:
                        normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                        normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
                        normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto;
                        text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
                        white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing:
                        0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
                        <div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma;
                          font-size: 10pt; " class="">
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; color: rgb(32, 24,
                              140); " class=""> </span><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                              Times; " class="">Yo Al,<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              (Many others  French, Calibar parts of US
                              ...)<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Yep, round and round in circles sounds
                              likely doesn't it! This is certainly true
                              for most of the mad theories out there.
                              The parameter count starts large, argues
                              to deal with one crucial point which "no
                              one else gets" but ends up (after
                              including the ansatz) even larger. The
                              better ones (most of us then!) at least
                              end up with it being the same.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I have a saying in reply to a cliche.
                              Onwards and upwards!  .... and round and
                              round in circles!<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              If one goes up a hill one often ends up
                              going round and round in circles – or
                              stuck at a point! There is a group in
                              Scotland who like to climb hills and pick
                              off the tallest one a time - the so called
                              "munro baggers”. My brother, David and I
                              like to mess with this a little, climb the
                              hills, walk round the top in a circle
                              (without mounting it - but taking time for
                              each of the vistas - spending perhaps an
                              hour or two there) When we do this it
                              always amuses us to see how many<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                                class=""> </span>folk reach the top,
                              scan round briefly, maybe take a selfie,
                              and then go straight back down again. On
                              the popular hills, on a good day, this can
                              easily be dozens. I have to admit, once
                              the rush has passed, we like to go and sit
                              on the top in peace and quiet as well-
                              weather permitting!<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                            </span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">Back to
                              business.<span class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>In

                              1991 Martin and I made a list of all the
                              starting points of the set of theories
                              that constituted the then state of play of
                              the “standard model”. I forget the exact
                              number of a-priori inputs– but it was
                              approaching a hundred. Think … six quarks,
                              the SU(3) of flavour that goes with it,<span
                                class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the

                              additional SU(3) of colour (gluons), three
                              charged leptons, three neutrinos, four
                              electroweak gauge bosons, The Higgs
                              mechanism to deal with the mass problem,
                              space, time, energy, charge, the Su(2) of
                              spin, the plethora of observed symettries
                              – CPT. A handful of “principles” Pauli
                              exclusion, Heisenberg uncertainty, Mach’s
                              …. wave-particle-duality, U(1) in general
                              (as it pertains to the setting up of
                              “wave-functions”, quantum “collapse”, the
                              Poincare stresses lots of “conservation
                              laws” (which tend to express the
                              conservation of a quantity whose base
                              nature is not more deeply understood) ….
                              I’m up at over 40 already and not even
                              trying!</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">Now it
                              should be realised that if one can express
                              any ONE of these in terms of another – and
                              hence reduce the number of “fundamental”
                              inputs by one, that this is major
                              progress. For example Martin and my 1997
                              paper reduced the number of fundamental
                              constants by one expressing charge in
                              terms of Planck’s constant, or vice-versa.
                              This is net progress. It also
                              –incidentally, got the value for g-2 (the
                              experimental difference for the value of 2
                              for the gyromagnetic ratio predicted by
                              the Dirac model) from a consideration of
                              the “rotation horizon”.<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                                class=""> </span>This latter is very
                              important as this experiment is the rock
                              on which all previous “electromagnetic
                              electron” models of the 20<sup class="">th</sup><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>century
                              (due to Mie, Einstein, Dirac) and many
                              others, had foundered.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">It is
                              indeed so that parts of your (latter) list
                              are derivative of one another – but it
                              could be argued that the primary list (of
                              6) are also not primary. For example, I
                              would not put all of charge, mass, and
                              length there. I do not thing charge is a
                              primary starting point at all (though I
                              know current comes into the MKSA system).
                              Also one can argue that mass and (inverse)
                              time are related. Maybe I would add stuff
                              instead – for example Planck’s constant
                              hbar. Plus, there is the argument I have
                              been making as to whether space and time,
                              or their inverses are more primary.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">After
                              setting up the list, Martin and I set out
                              to try to derive the starting point of
                              where this all came from using the
                              simplest possible ansatz. Now here comes
                              the problem: as you say to a “newbie” that
                              any of this should be feasible sounds
                              rather unlikely.<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                                class=""> </span>Read no further: the
                              man is clearly a nutter. No-one could do
                              that! Just not possible. Forget about it!</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">At the same
                              time, as things stand in 2015,<span
                                class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>there

                              are a large number of “competing”
                              “theories” (as David points out), of which
                              the WvdM view is only one. The present
                              group, just by themselves, has lots! Not
                              only that<span class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>-
                              many of the others are more appealing on
                              the surface – they speak to “common sense”
                              notions which dismiss things many anyway
                              find hard to understand – such as the
                              limiting velocity of light, for example.
                              Some speak to “familiar” science fiction,
                              such as FTL travel and “many worlds” time
                              travel that everyone has seen on TV and in
                              the movies. The WvdM view is, relatively,
                              extremely hard. Far easier to dismiss it
                              and look, first, at something else. The
                              fact that other “theories” may raise more
                              problems than they solve, and may even be
                              in direct conflict with aspects of
                              experiment, is taken to be irrelevant. If
                              one fails to understand so many things
                              already, what is a few more?</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">Now I am
                              very much in favour of saying what goes
                              into a theory – and what comes out. The
                              net balance then. A couple of years ago I
                              gave a series of lectures on “all of
                              science”. These took some of the base
                              theories, such as quantum mechanics,
                              quantum electrodynamics and the “standard
                              model” and explained what went in and what
                              came out-<span class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>in

                              terms meant for the understanding of
                              (erudite) mothers. You can look at most of
                              these if you like as they are up on Vimeo
                              (thanks Nick!). Just google “Williamson
                              physics vimeo” – should do it! The bottom
                              line of those lectures is that there is an
                              awful lot that goes into the foundation of
                              current physics. The “standard model has
                              over fifty “free parameters” (see above
                              and below). In my view this is far too
                              many.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">On the
                              other hand there are many theories out
                              there purporting to deal with the “central
                              mystery of physics”. One thing. These may
                              explain a particular experiment in an
                              alternative way – but in doing so they
                              raise a lot of other issues in conflict
                              with other experiment – which is further
                              ignored. This has become all too
                              fashionable – even for<span class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>so

                              called”mainstream” theories (such as QCD)
                              which are clearly and fundamentally in
                              conflict with experiment. This is thought
                              by many nowadays to be ok. For me, it is
                              not.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class="">Ok .. here
                              is a (short) list of what one would really
                              like to understand. Feel free to add to it</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Times; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">h</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">e</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">nature of space and time</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">CPT</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Boltzmann constant</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Non-existence magnetic monopoles</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Gravitons</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Allowed black body modes</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Bell</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Red shift</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">3K background radiation</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Quantisation of e</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Mass</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Spin</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">g-2</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Pauli principle</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Uncertainty principle</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Origin of universe</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Flatness of universe</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Conservation laws (times n!)</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Energy ... mass</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Momentum .... Force</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Angular momentum</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">why is c constant?</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">and why 300 000 000 m/s?</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">wave-particle duality</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Baryon number (6)</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">why only qqq and qq*</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Lepton number (3) (3 generations
                              puzzle)</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">SU(3) quarks</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">SU(3) gluons</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">neutrinos</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">coupling constant EM</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">coupling constant EW</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">coupling constant S (plus why
                              running coupling constant)</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Postulate of equivalence</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Quantum measurement collapse</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Dark matter</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">First law of thermodynamics
                              (Energy conservation)</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Higgs</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Spontaneous symmetry breaking</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Mach’s principle</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; line-height: 6px; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
                              class=""><span class="">·<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; " class="">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Poincaré stresses</span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Why 4-D?</span><span class=""></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">Why (apparently) 3D</span><span
                              class=""></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0px 0cm 0px 36pt;
                            font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
                            text-indent: -18pt; " class=""><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class=""><span
                                class="">·<span style="font-style:
                                  normal; font-variant: normal;
                                  font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                                  line-height: normal; font-family:
                                  'Times New Roman'; " class="">      <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class="">…..</span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true" name="_GoBack"
                              class=""></a><span class=""></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">Good ho. Now the
                              solution of Hilbert’s sixth should, if it
                              is indeed a solution, explain all of
                              these, just and no more, in terms of an
                              axiomatic starting set. That is it should,
                              for example, say why there is an SU(3) of
                              flavour AND why the only observed states
                              within this large group are in the subset
                              of either qqq or qqbar. It should get the
                              SU(2) of spin. Explain the U(1) of
                              electromagnetism and quantum solutions. It
                              should either predict the whole lot, or
                              remove their necessity (e.g for
                              “spontaneous symmetry breaking) – and
                              explain why this is the case. Big problem!</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">Ok – those
                              particular “big problems” (SU(3) etc ..
                              not the whole list) ARE derived from the
                              new theory. So too are observed
                              symmetries, for example CPT. What has
                              charge got to do with parity and
                              time-reversal? Indeed. Easy to understand
                              if you take charge to result from an
                              electromagnetic localisation in a
                              non-trivial topology. Other, things which
                              fall (I’m just going up the list) are the<span
                                class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Poincare

                              stresses, why apparently 3D, Higgs (not
                              needed). The generations mystery, dark
                              matter, the Pauli principle (my 2012
                              paper) and the allowed black body modes.
                              This is quite a lot. No a-priori quarks</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">Hodge keeps
                              shouting “what goes in”. John I (and
                              Richard, Chip, John M, Viv, Hagen,
                              Albrecht) have already said what goes in
                              in both the paper and in lots of these
                              emails. Never mind: I will say it again.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">What goes in (to
                              mine) is space (and its inversion), time
                              (and its inversion) and (root) energy.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">That is not really
                              fair since there is – in fact more. For
                              one thing there is a specific way in which
                              space and time go in – for me as a
                              restricted Dirac-Clifford algebra. R<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class="">Ä</span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class=""><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cl(1,3)
                              – (as opposed to a general Dirac algebra
                              which is C<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                              style="font-family: Symbol; " class="">Ä</span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class=""><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cl(1,3).

                              Hence it contains not just space and time
                              but the experimentally observed properties
                              of “space” and “time”.<span class=""> <span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>So

                              one could better say that what goes in is
                              this restricted algebra, root energy and
                              no more.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">Now this algebra
                              includes the properties of
                              “multiplication” “division” (and hence
                              inversion as mentioned above) “addition”
                              and “subtraction”. You may think the
                              latter set are a given – but they are
                              anything but. What does it actually MEAN
                              to divide space by time. What is the
                              underlying physical process that the
                              (human invention of) “division” is meant
                              to represent in reality? For this to be
                              properly explained you need my and Martins
                              paper on “division and the algebra of
                              reality”. Coming soon!</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">What does NOT go in
                              are some of the numerical values mentioned
                              above – although given some values (e.g.
                              h) one can calculate others (e.g. e).</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">So- what else comes
                              out in payment for the input. One gets the
                              Maxwell equations – all four of them and
                              not just 2 as in Jackson. As a bonus one
                              gets four more – connecting current and
                              spin. One gets out the SU(2) of spin and
                              SU(3) of flavour. One can derive U(1) as a
                              simple projection of the better symmetry
                              in eq 21 (e.g. eq 22). In other words one
                              derives a big chunk of the starting
                              assumptions of the standard model. One
                              derives the point-like (as opposed to the
                              point) interaction of elementary leptons.
                              One gets the starting point of QED, while
                              fixing some of the renormalisation
                              problems. One understands the origin of
                              CPT. One gets out the origin of the
                              Poincare stresses (which bind the electron
                              charge). One gets out a fully-relativistic
                              wave function for the photon. One gets out
                              the reason for the quantisation of
                              travelling electromagnetic waves. One gets
                              a possible explanation for dark matter.
                              One gets out a possible reason for
                              black-body quantisation. One gets out a
                              new solution of the new equations
                              corresponding to a charged, spin half pair
                              or particles identified with the electron
                              and the positron. I think, given the Dirac
                              algebra existed already and that I have
                              only made it simpler and more specific,
                              this is net positive. What do you think?</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">Anyway, this is
                              only the beginning. One has a new set of
                              equations of motion to play with, just
                              waiting for people to start finding more
                              particular solutions.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class="">More comments below
                              (in blue)</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-family: 'Times
                              New Roman'; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; text-align: center; "
                            align="center"><span style="font-family:
                              'Times New Roman'; " class="">
                              <hr class="" align="center" size="2"
                                width="100%"></span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;
                            "><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                font-family: Tahoma; " class="">From:</span></b><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                              Tahoma; " class=""><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a></a>]<br
                                class="">
                              <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,

                              November 29, 2015 4:00 PM<br class="">
                              <b class="">To:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John

                              Williamson<br class="">
                              <b class="">Cc:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mark,

                              Martin van der;<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></a>;
                              Nick Bailey;<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:pete@leathergoth.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pete@leathergoth.com">pete@leathergoth.com</a></a>;
                              Ariane Mandray; David Williamson<br
                                class="">
                              <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aw:

                              RE: RE: [General] Nature of charge</span><span
                              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "
                              class=""></span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class="">Privet,
                              Ivan:  (Russian hi---more fun!)</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class="">I'v been
                              writting "Clifford" where I should have
                              been writting
                              conventional/Grassmann/Clifford.  I.e.,
                              some version of the basic idea (toy model)
                              that looks and smells like stuff found in
                              no-too-esoteric lit.  Those more used to
                              using than creating/discovering math find
                              it difficult to translate to a known
                              background.  (Same with languages, if two
                              are learned without explicit connection,
                              one may be able to speak both fluently but
                              not able to translate between them, in
                              real time anyway.)</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">You are right that people
                              seem to have trouble understanding what I
                              am talking</span><span style="font-size:
                              9pt; font-family: Verdana; " class=""><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>about. 
                               </span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class="">I find it
                              highly likely that you, Albrecht and John
                              M. are going in circles.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">I agree about John M. and
                              Albrecht! (sorry guys – you probably think
                              the same about me!).</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> For
                              BASIC physics the set of units is: {e,m,l
                              (x3),t}, that is, 6 entities.  On the
                              hand, in physics theories there are many
                              more inserted items: e.g., momentum,
                              energy, wave, angular mommentum, spin,
                              field, Compton wave length, deBroglie
                              wave, electron, position, quark, .......
                              etc., etc.  Thus, among the latter set,
                              there has to be gobs of redundancy,</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">True: see above</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class="">which
                              makes it possible to "derive" (actually
                              extract) various constants and magic
                              numbers from other various combinations
                              thereof!</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">Agreed. There is a lot of
                              numerology bullshit out there. Please
                              note, I’m not primarily about numbers, but
                              about a new set of differential equations
                              with new solutions.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""><span
                                class=""> </span> If you wish to argue
                              that this is not the case, then it might
                              be smart to so present your story(s) by
                              starting from an explicit list of what
                              your are inputting (and thereby NOT
                              explaining) and present arguments why what
                              your choice of inputs is, is resonable
                              given available emperical evidence.</span><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                              Verdana; " class=""> </span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">Good point. Have tried to
                              do this. I thought that was what I was
                              doing in saying what went in (space, time
                              and root-energy) and in defining the
                              algebra to be used. Obviously, this is not
                              enough to get this across to most folk.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""><span
                                class=""> </span>For one thing, this
                              gives the newby a shot at determining with
                              relatively litte time invested whether
                              what you intend to do is at all feasible
                              given his (the newby's) state of
                              knowldege.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">Sorry, but hard stuff is
                              just hard – otherwise loads of other folk
                              would have solved the problem long ago.
                              Even when discovered by another and then
                              explained it remains hard.</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""><span
                                class=""> </span> Of course, all
                              conceivable refs, will be newbys in YOUR
                              game.  This is where I stumble; usually I
                              just assume that this can be done and give
                              it a go---until entropy diverges and I
                              quit.  </span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">You and me both. I tried
                              it myself for a decade, gave up and went
                              into engineering – then met Martin. Two
                              has been enough!</span><span
                              style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
                              Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102, 255); "
                              class=""></span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class="">For what
                              it's worth,  Al</span></div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            Cambria; "><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; " class=""> </span></p>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "
                            class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                              font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102,
                              255); " class="">Ciao, John.</span><span
                              style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
                              Verdana; color: rgb(51, 102, 255); "
                              class=""></span></div>
                        </div>
                        _______________________________________________<br
                          class="">
                        If you no longer wish to receive communication
                        from the Nature of Light and Particles General
                        Discussion List at<span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com">viv@universephysics.com</a></a><br
                          class="">
                        <a href="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40universephysics.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"
                          class="">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40universephysics.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br
                          class="">
                        Click here to unsubscribe<br class="">
                        </a><br class="">
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                  <br class="">
                </div>
                <br class="">
                <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
                <br class="">
                <pre class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joakimbits@gmail.com">joakimbits@gmail.com</a>
<a href=<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/joakimbits%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/joakimbits%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>>
Click here to unsubscribe
</a>
</pre>
              </blockquote>
              <br class="">
            </div>
            _______________________________________________<br class="">
            If you no longer wish to receive communication from the
            Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com">richgauthier@gmail.com</a></a><br
              class="">
            <a href="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/richgauthier%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"
              class="">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/richgauthier%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br
              class="">
            Click here to unsubscribe<br class="">
            </a><br class="">
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br class="">
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>