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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think it’s very simple: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Photon momentum is resistance to change-in-motion for a wave propagating linearly at c. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Electron mass is resistance to change-in-motion for a wave going round and round at c. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>See <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.06478">http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.06478</a> . Catch a photon in a mirror-box, and you increases the inertia of that system. The electron is like a photon in a box of its own making. . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JohnD <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> General [mailto:general-bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Gauthier<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2016 02:12<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>; Roychoudhuri, Chandra <chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] (no subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chandra and all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> I think it has been historically misleading to define inertia as a “resistance” to acceleration. There is no known innate force or mechanism of resistance to acceleration (although Isaac Newton originally defined inertia as being caused by some kind of ‘innate force’. Conservation of momentum may be the best explanation for inertia. The more momentum something has, the larger the force required to accelerate it. Why momentum is conserved is a deeper topic. If you google “difference between inertia and momentum” you’ll find a lot of confusion between inertia and momentum, probably because the concepts seem closely related.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> According to the Wikipedia article : “inertia”<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white'> In fact, Newton originally viewed the phenomenon he described in his First Law of Motion as being caused by "innate forces" inherent in matter, which resisted any acceleration. Given this perspective, and borrowing from Kepler, Newton actually attributed the term "inertia" to mean "the innate force possessed by an object which resists changes in motion"; thus Newton defined "inertia" to mean the cause of the phenomenon, rather than the phenomenon itself. However, Newton's original ideas of "innate resistive force" were ultimately problematic for a variety of reasons, and thus most physicists no longer think in these terms. As no alternate mechanism has been readily accepted, and it is now generally accepted that there may not be one which we can know, the term "inertia" has come to mean simply the phenomenon itself, rather than any inherent mechanism. Thus, ultimately, "inertia" in modern classical physics has come to be a name for the same phenomenon described by Newton's First Law of Motion, and the two concepts are now considered to be equivalent.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra <<a href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chip: My conjecture is this: what we call “mass” (m=E/c-squared) is the inertial behavior of the self-loped oscillations that we identify as particles. And the quantitative “inertial property” is directly proportional to the energy content, E, of the self-looped oscillation of the CTF. The inertia, of course, is its resistance to move through the CTF. We need new potential gradients in the CTF around interacting particles for them to experience “Falling into” or “be repelled by”.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Chip Akins<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, January 25, 2016 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [General] (no subject)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hi All<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>I am looking for any thoughts or insight regarding the masses of the particles. Specifically the electron, muon, proton neutron, and tau.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Recently I have been searching for a physical explanation of why the following 4<sup>th</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>order polynomial predicts these masses (Energies).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>E = 2.16215091940284E-11n<sup>4</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>- 2.57974739967757E-10n<sup>3</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>+ 1.06568810515144E-09n<sup>2</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>- 1.69871730871029E-09n + 8.69464305369825E-10<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Chip<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Roychoudhuri, Chandra<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, January 25, 2016 3:09 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <<a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [General] (no subject)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Friends:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I am of the opinion that all waves are excited states of their respective mother tension field. They do not even carry energy. The externally perturbing energy; which disturbed the quiescent state of the tension field holding all the energy; gets perpetually pushed away by the mother tension field to regain its original state of equilibrium (quiescence). This is at the foundation of perpetual wave propagation; the velocity is being determined by the intrinsic tension properties of the tension field. This is built into our LINEAR wave equation! Linear superposition only means that within the linear domain (sum of all amplitudes) in the local tension field; all waves can co-propagate and cross-propagate away as per their original Poynting vectors without picking up any memory of their temporary co-local-propagation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>SP, the Superposition Principle is a very smart starting-step mathematical-logic invention by humans to structure the energy exchange process with a resonant detector - as the square modulus of the sum-total complex amplitudes. Then what we measure is Superposition Effect SE. This non-linear square modulus physical OPERATION can be carried out only by some resonant detector; not by the field themselves. That is why superposed fields do not re-organize their intrinsic<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><i>energy</i></b>; they still are propagating as various excited AMPLITUDE states of the tension field. Within the tension field, which still holds all the tension energies, they still remain dedicated to individual waves. That is why finite size waves, when emerge out of each other, do not have any memory of their earlier encounter.</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>This what I have been describing as Non-Interaction of Waves (NIW).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>SE is an observable phenomenon of nature; SP is not.</span></i></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>That is why nobody is going to make quantum computers using mathematical logic based upon SP only. If we want to build something physical; we better build that logic based upon measurable SE. God is not going to change its operating rules just because we have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars to make quantum computers based upon non-observable logics of SP (single photon interference) over the past several decades. Neither can photon have mass; just like we do not assign mass to undulation surface tension field (water waves). Yes, water itself does have inertia to motion (“mass”).<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Wolfgang Baer<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, January 25, 2016 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [General] (no subject)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'>Does this not all start with the E=mc^2 energy mass equivalence postulate?<br>A moving photon has energy therefore mass , if the wave is confined to a circular path the mass could be considered stationary<br>The equations can all be manipulated to come up with various quantities and interpretations.<br><br>What to me is problematic is the centrifugal forces. What balances the tremendous outward pull?<br>An electron only has charge that repels, and now centrifugal forces, what holds it all together?<br><br>Wolf<o:p></o:p></p><pre style='background:white'>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com"><span style='color:purple'>wolf@NascentInc.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></pre><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On 1/25/2016 8:33 AM, Albrecht Giese wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'>Dear Richard,<br><br>you know that I object to your derivation of inertial mass. You deduce it from momentum. That is mathematically possible by using the known relations. But it is not logical in so far as momentum depends on inertia. In a world without inertia there would be no momentum.<br><br>So we have to explain first the mechanism of inertia itself, then we can derive the momentum and the inertial mass.<br><br>Best<br>Albrecht<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Am 24.01.2016 um 20:42 schrieb Richard Gauthier:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hello Vladimir and Chandra and all,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> Yes, I definitely support the idea of the ether as material space, and that all physical particles are derived from this ether. This ether can also be called a plenum or Cosmic Tension Field.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> I don’t however think that it is necessary to explain the inertial mass of particles in relation to a "coefficient of inertia” or "the amount of momentum the ether resists." I have shown (<a href="https://www.academia.edu/19652036/The_Origin_of_the_Electrons_Inertia"><span style='color:purple'>https://www.academia.edu/19652036/The_Origin_of_the_Electrons_Inertia</span></a> ) by a very simple derivation that the inertial mass m of an electron may be derived from the momentum of the circling photon in a circulating-photon model of the electron, whose circling photon has momentum mc where m = Eo/c^2 = hf/c^2 , where Eo is the rest energy 0.511 MeV of the electron and f is the frequency of the circulating photon in the resting electron. Secondly, in a similar way I derived a linearly moving photon's inertial mass to be M-inertial = hf/c^2 , where f is the photon’s frequency, even though a photon has zero rest mass. Thirdly, I derived the inertial mass of a relativistic electron, whose momentum is p=gamma mv, to be M-inertial = gamma m , even though the moving electron's rest mass is m. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> I present these derivations below, taken from the <a href="http://academia.edu/"><span style='color:purple'>academia.edu</span></a> session on my electron inertia article at <a href="https://www.academia.edu/s/a26afd55e0?source=link"><span style='color:purple'>https://www.academia.edu/s/a26afd55e0?source=link</span></a> :<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=js-non-expanded-comment><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#494848'>"One reason people don’t think that a photon has any inertial mass (because it has no rest mass) is that how do you get a photon to change its momentum (i.e. accelerate) in order to measure its inertial mass. It can’t go faster or slower than c in a vacuum, so it can’t accelerate in a linear direction, and in normal physics a photon doesn’t follow a curved path (except with gravity), which would make it possible to measure its centripetal acceleration c^2/R . But as I showed in my short el</span></span><span class=js-expanded-comment><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#494848'>ectron inertia article at<a href="https://www.academia.edu/19652036/The_Origin_of_%20%20th%0A%20e_Elect%0A%0Arons_Inertia"><span style='color:purple'>https://www.academia.edu/19652036/The_Origin_of_the_Electrons_Inertia</span></a></span></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#494848'> </span></span><span class=js-expanded-comment><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#494848'>, the electron model in a resting electron has the photon going in a circle, with momentum mc and speed c, and the electron's inertial mass is then calculated to be M-inertial =(dp/dt)/Acentrifugal =wmc/(c^2/r)= m which is the inertial mass of the electron. But this calculation of the circling charged photon's inertial mass is independent of the radius of the charged photon’s circular orbit. Let that circular radius go towards infinity and you get a photon traveling in essentially a straight line, still having its inertial mass M =hf/c^2 (where the photon frequency f decreases as the radius of the circle increases) . So according to this logic, a linearly moving photon DOES have inertial mass M-inertial =hf/c^2 even though a photon has zero rest mass. And when a relativistic electron with momentum p=gamma mv travels in a circle with speed v, the inertial mass calcul ation ab ove gives M -in ertial = gamma m for a circling relativistic electron, and not just m the electron’s rest mass . Extending the radius here towards infinity also gives a linearly moving electron an inertial mass M = gamma m and not just the electron's rest mass m."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=js-expanded-comment><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> As far as I know these are all original derivations of the inertial mass of a resting electron, a photon and a relativistic electron based on a circulating photon model of an electron. I would be pleased to be shown otherwise.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=js-expanded-comment><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> Richard</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra <<a href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu"><span style='color:purple'>chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Yes, Vlad, that is also my viewpoint.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I do not remember whether I have attached this paper while communicating with you earlier. I call the “plenum” Cosmic Tension Field (CTF), to be descriptive in its essential properties.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Vladimir Tamari<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Saturday, January 23, 2016 7:00 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [General] (no subject)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hi Richard <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>I barge into your discussion without knowing your views on a "plenum field" but if it is an ether I definitely think there is one. A "coefficent of inertia" might be defined as the amount of momentum the ether resists. In a charged or gravitational field this coefficent would increase...I think of this in terms of my Beautiful Universe ether of dielectric nodes, except this may give the wrong idea it is something matter wades in.. not so. Matter and ether are made if the selfsame nodes of energy!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Vladimir<br><br>_____________________<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><a href="http://vladimirtamari.com/"><span style='color:purple'>vladimirtamari.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><br>On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Richard Gauthier <<a href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com"><span style='color:purple'>richgauthier@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hi Hodge,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> I don’t remember asking that. But if I did, I’m glad the question was helpful.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> I’m thinking about inertia these days. Do you or others have any insights about its nature?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> Richard<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Hodge John <<a href="mailto:jchodge@frontier.com"><span style='color:purple'>jchodge@frontier.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2533"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Richard Gauthier:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2535"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>You asked if the galaxy redshift, Pioneer anomaly, Pound--Rebka experiment model had a velocity term. I looked at redshift data for 1 galaxy and found no indication of a velocity term.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2537"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2539"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I had not noticed this in the equations. Your suggestion that the plenum field can look like the Higgs field seems valid. That is, the acceleration of the plenum field looks like it adds energy (mass) is a Higgs Field characteristic. Thus, the plenum is closer to the idea of a quantum field and Higgs field (weak force).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2541"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2543"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks for the insight.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2545"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453325918779_2579"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hodge<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>_______________________________________________<br>If you no longer wish to receive 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