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    <small>Hi Chip,<br>
      <br>
      it is funny that your calculation about the photon has to a great
      extend the same results as my general particle model if applied to
      the electron. On the other hand your calculation regarding the
      internal force in the photon assumes a very specific set up of a
      photon and also a very specific way of its motion. So that you
      have there a centrifugal force. This force is then by a factor of
      1/</small><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small>α </small></span><small>stronger
      than the electric force. </small><span
      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small>That is a numerical
        result. Do you have at theory that has </small></span><span
      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><span
          style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">α</span> as an algebraic
        result? <br>
        <br>
        My model has similar results, but in my understanding it has
        less assumptions or preconditions. I do not use E = h*f  as a
        known fact but this relation follows from my model. And in my
        case the force within the particle is h*c by comparison with the
        QM-equation for the magnetic moment. So, if one builds the
        relation between this force (h*c) and the electric force </small></span><span
      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><span
          style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(Fe = e<sup>2</sup>/(4π ε<sub>0</sub>
          r<sup>2</sup>)</span> then this relation is the definition of 
      </small></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><big><span
            style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">α</span></small></span></big>,
        not as a number but by algebra. <br>
        <br>
        So for me it follows from my model that </small></span><span
      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><big><span
            style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><big><span
                  style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><small><span
                      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">α</span></small></span></big></small></span></big>
        is the relation between the electrical and the strong force. To
        what do you refer in order to avoid the impression that it is
        only an accidental numerical result?<br>
        <br>
        Albrecht<br>
      </small> </span><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.02.2016 um 19:13 schrieb Chip
      Akins:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
            Albrecht<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            knew the relationship between the fine structure and the
            strength of the Strong and EM forces for many years, but
            only recently became aware of some of the implications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While
            searching for causes for quantization of light and
            quantization of mass (creating the fermionic particles we
            observe), I found that the force required to cause the
            photon to have a spin of ħ is equivalent in magnitude to the
            Strong Force.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            math is simple:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
            know the forward momentum of a photon is p=E/c.  In order
            for the photon to have a spin angular momentum of ħ and a
            frequency of f=E/h we can calculate the photon’s effective
            spin radius. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">First
            we get the wavelength λ = c/f.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
            can safely assume our photon model makes one revolution in
            one wavelength (which gives the photon its frequency). So we
            can also assume that the effective spin radius is the
            wavelength divided by two times π or r = λ/2π.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So
            we have suggested a model for a photon which has a radius of
            λ/2π and a forward momentum of E/c. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Let
            us try out this model, and construct a gamma photon model
            using the energy of the electron.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            energy of our photon is therefore 8.1871E-14 J. So its
            frequency is f= E/h = 1.2356X10<sup>20</sup>Hz.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Which
            yields a wavelength of λ = c/f = 2.4263X10<sup>-12</sup>m. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That
            makes the effective spin radius of this photon r = λ/2π =
            3.8616X10-13m.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            forward momentum of this photon would then be p=
            E/c=2.7309X10<sup>-22</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And
            the calculated spin angular momentum would be s = r p =
            1.05457168X10<sup>-34</sup> = ħ.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
            now have a spin ħ photon model which displays the known and
            anticipated values for momentum and spin angular momentum
            for such a photon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">However
            there is one piece of this photon model that we have not yet
            addressed.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That
            is the force required to cause the energy of this photon to
            spiral through space at the effective spin radius we have
            suggested. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In
            order for energy traveling at c and with the momentum p
            =2.7309X10<sup>-22 </sup>to circulate around a radius of r
            = λ/2π = 3.8616X10-13m we would need a confinement force for
            this energetic gamma photon of:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Fc
            = (p c)/r = 0.212014 Kg Force or 2.079147 Newtons Force.</span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr> </m:r></span></m:oMath><![endif]--><!--[if !msEquation]--><span
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            style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            calculated E field force at this radius is Fe = e<sup>2</sup>/(4π
            ε<sub>0</sub> r<sup>2</sup>) = 0.0015472 Kg Force or
            0.01517285 Newtons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And
            Fe/Fc = α.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So
            it seems this force is present in everything subatomic and
            particulate, from photons to all fermionic particles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Chip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
                General
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 13, 2016 11:33 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Gravitational Waves and de
                Broglie Waves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Chip,<br>
          <br>
          I fully agree to your considerations and conclusions. It
          follows (also) from my model that the fine structure constant
          alpha shows the relation between the electric force and the
          strong force. And the consequence is as well that the strong
          force plays a much bigger role in the physical world than it
          is assumed up to now.<br>
          <br>
          But are you aware that this is in strict conflict with main
          stream physics? In traditional textbooks as well as at
          Wikipedia it is said that alpha means the coupling between
          electric charges. Also the original use of  the constant,
          introduced by Arnold Sommerfeld, was to explain fine
          structures in atomic spectra. (The origin of the name.) But
          recently I have also found a textbook with your explanations
          (which is also mine.) <br>
          <br>
          How or where did you find this? I am wondering how long it
          will take that main stream will accept this.<br>
          <br>
          Greetings<br>
          Albrecht<br>
          <br>
          <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Am
            13.02.2016 um 16:39 schrieb Chip Akins:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
              All</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">An
              issue has become interesting regarding the fine structure
              constant.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
              observe the fine structure constant in many different
              ways. It is a prevailing constant which is uniquely and
              widely manifest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It
              is understood that the fine structure constant is simply
              the difference in strength between the EM force (Fe) and
              the Strong force (Fs). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Fs
              = Fe α. And Fe = Fs/α. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It
              seems we may have overlooked the possibility that what we
              call the nuclear strong force is present in many more
              circumstances than we previously assumed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So
              it seems that for every instance where we observe the fine
              structure α, <b>both</b> of these forces must be at play,
              or there must be a force equal to the strength of the
              strong nuclear force, which we have not previously
              recognized.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thoughts?
              Comments?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Chip</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b>From:</b>
                General [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Macken<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2016 5:11 PM<br>
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                <b>Subject:</b> [General] Gravitational Waves and de
                Broglie Waves<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello Everyone, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">It has been some time since I
              have contributed to the discussion but I now have
              something new to say because of the historic gravitational
              wave announcement yesterday. It may seem as if
              gravitational waves are far removed from particles, forces
              and de Broglie waves, but in my world there is a strong
              connection.  There has been a lot of discussion in the
              group about the properties of spacetime.  However, the
              discussion has largely ignored all the work done on
              gravitational waves.  These waves propagate in the medium
              of spacetime and they reveal a lot of concrete information
              about the properties of spacetime.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">Until yesterday there has been a
              lot of doubt about whether the theoretically predicted
              properties of gravitational waves were correct. Serious
              efforts to detect gravitational waves have been
              unsuccessful for over more than 25.  We now know that the
              problem was that the detectors were not sensitive enough
              rather than a mistake in the concept or equations.  A few
              weeks after the sensitivity of LIGO was increased by a
              factor of 3, they detected the first gravitational wave. 
              The first signal detected came from two black holes
              merging about 1.3 billion years ago.   The detected
              pattern exactly matches the theoretical wave pattern
              predicted for the merging of two black holes.  The signal
              was a strain wave in spacetime which had a frequency chirp
              from about 30 Hz to about 250 Hz.  The following link is
              the first official technical paper on the subject (note
              the hundreds of authors)  :     <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102">https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">The details about the emitted and
              detected waves gives support to the model of the universe
              that I have been proposing.  I want to make several
              points.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">There is now no doubt that the
              impedance of spacetime is Z<sub>s</sub> =<i> c</i><sup>3</sup>/<i>G</i>
              = 4 x 10<sup>35</sup> kg/s.  This comes from gravitational
              wave equations.  This impedance has been known to the
              community of scientists working on gravitational waves for
              a long time (references available).  However, now all
              physicists must admit that spacetime has this important
              property.  I claim that all the quantum mechanical wave
              properties can be analyzed using the impedance of
              spacetime.    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">This large impedance implies that
              spacetime is not an empty void. This impedance is a
              measurable property of spacetime that is about 28 orders
              of magnitude larger than the impedance of steel. An empty
              void would have no impedance.  Also impedance implies an
              elastic medium which has the ability to absorb energy and
              return energy to a propagating wave. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">The model of the vacuum that I have
              proposed fits perfectly with this impedance. Quantum
              mechanics implies that there is a Planck length
              uncertainty in the distance between points and a Planck
              time uncertainty in the time dimension.  If this is
              modeled as waves in spacetime which are continuously
              modulating distance by Planck length and modulating the
              rate of time by Planck time, then suddenly everything
              fits.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">Using gravitational wave equations
              and the impedance of spacetime, it is possible to test the
              hypothesis that spacetime is really filled with these
              small amplitude waves.  I have shown that zero point
              energy exactly fits this model.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">5)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">All the forces are explained not by
              mysterious virtual photons and mysterious gravitons but by
              waves and distortions of this “spacetime field”. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">6)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">      </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
              style="color:#444444">Using quantifiable properties of
              spacetime and Planck length/time waves, it is possible to
              move from hand waving models of particles, fields and de
              Broglie waves to models which can be mathematically
              analyzed and tested.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="color:#444444"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">Previously I was not clear enough
              about whether these waves filling spacetime fit the
              definition of being true “energy density”.  Suppose that
              we assume that the definition of “observable” energy is: <i>E</i><sup>2</sup>
              = (<i>mc</i><sup>2</sup>)<sup>2</sup> + (<i>pc</i>)<sup>2</sup>. 
              All the fermions and bosons meet this definition of being
              observable energy.  I claim that the difference between
              observable energy density (fermions and bosons) and the
              unobservable energy density of the waves in spacetime is
              that observable energy possess quantized angular momentum
              (spin) while unobservable energy does not possess spin. 
               These Planck length/time waves have energy-like
              properties such as a frequency, wave amplitude and
              encounter the impedance of spacetime, but without
              quantized angular momentum they do not interact with
              fermions and bosons in a detectable way. These Planck
              length/time waves are the most perfect superfluid
              possible.  Their presence is felt because they are
              responsible for giving spacetime constants such as: <i>c</i>,
              <i>G</i>, ħ, ε<sub>o</sub> and <i>Z</i><sub>s</sub>. Also
              these small amplitude waves are responsible for
              uncertainty and probabilistic characteristics of quantum
              mechanics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">If you treat these waves as if
              they had quantized angular momentum (spin), then the
              maximum energy density of spacetime would be about 10<sup>113</sup>
              J/m<sup>3</sup>.  However, without angular momentum to
              make them quantized, the vacuum appears to be an empty
              void which possesses mysterious physical properties. The
              moment that new angular momentum is introduced into
              spacetime, then some of the incomplete energy density of
              the Planck length/time waves in spacetime becomes complete
              and observable. For example, two spiraling black holes
              introduce the missing angular momentum to some of the
              waves in spacetime and they become observable
              gravitational waves. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">I want to use information from
              the above referenced gravitational wave paper to support
              the contention that spacetime is filled with small
              amplitude waves. According to this cited paper, the peak
              power emitted by these black holes as they were merging
              was 3.6 x 10<sup>49</sup> watts.  This is a tremendous
              power which approaches Planck power.  It is possible to
              drill deeper and analyze the forces involved in the
              emission of this power.  Energy is force times distance. 
              Power (P) is force (F) divided by speed (v).  We know the
              power emitted (3.6 x 10<sup>49</sup> watts) and the paper
              gives the maximum speed as about ½ the speed of light.
              Therefore the implied force retarding these two merging
              black holes is about: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">F = P/v = 3.6 x 10<sup>49</sup>
              w/1.5 x 10<sup>8</sup> m/s = 2.4 x 10<sup>40</sup> N.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">Another calculation can be made
              of the energy density of gravitational waves leaving the
              surface of the black holes at the speed of light. This
              calculation gives the emitted energy density propagating
              through the spacetime near the Schwarzschild radius as
              roughly 2 x 10<sup>29</sup> J/m<sup>3</sup>. This is more
              than 10<sup>8</sup> times greater than the <i>E</i> = <i>mc</i><sup>2</sup>
              energy density of osmium.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">An interpretation of Einstein’s
              field equation is that there is a maximum possible force
              which is: (1/8π)c<sup>4</sup>/G =  4.8 x 10<sup>42</sup>
              N.  Therefore the retarding force on the merging black
              holes is about 2 orders of magnitude less than the maximum
              possible force.  The conservation of momentum says that
              every force requires an equal and opposite reaction.  What
              is the opposite reaction in this case? It is easy to say
              that momentum is being transferred to the emitted
              gravitational waves, but then the question becomes: What
              is physically happening in spacetime that allows space to
              carry away this large a force and power?  If spacetime is
              visualized as an empty void, then the only explanation is
              that the force is being transferred to gravitons.  The
              more widely accepted explanation of gravity is that
              gravity is a geometrical effect and not a true force.  
              However this explanation is inadequate because geometry
              cannot extract a power of 10<sup>49</sup> watts and a
              force of 10<sup>48</sup> N. Even claiming that gravitons
              exist and carry away the power is a problem. The paper is
              also able to place a limit on the Compton wavelength of
              gravitons (if they exist). The finding is that a graviton
              must have a Compton wavelength greater than 10<sup>16</sup>
              m which is a wavelength greater than 1 light year.  This
              obviously seems incompatible with the emission time and
              frequency of the gravitational waves.      </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">If spacetime is filled with
              Planck length/time waves which have an incomplete energy
              density of about 10<sup>113</sup> J/m<sup>3</sup>, then it
              is easy to see where the power and offsetting force comes
              from.  The gravitational waves are distorting the
              tremendous incomplete energy density of the spacetime
              field and making it complete by adding angular momentum.
              This addition then completes the requirements for the
              vacuum fluctuations to become observable energy density
              which can transfer momentum and remove energy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">What does all of this have to do
              with particles, forces and de Broglie waves? Actually I
              claim that all wave activity in quantum mechanics
              ultimately is connected to the impedance of spacetime and
              the Planck length/time waves that fill spacetime.  I will
              be writing a technical paper which explains this in more
              detail and uses gravitational waves as numerical
              examples.  However, it is possible to find the answers if
              you combine what has been said in this post with the
              information in two attached papers.  I suggest reading the
              “foundation” paper first if you are interested.   </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt">John M.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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              New Roman ,serif",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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