<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34860"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673">John</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673" dir="ltr">><span style="font-size: 15px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34720">how emitted energy cannot be exhausted remains. </span><span style="font-size: 15px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34820">There must be a means to recover the energy or the process decays.</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673" dir="ltr">Short answer may be QFT and QED in particular with a continuous contribution from the PV or Dirac Sea.</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34673" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798">A hole in the ground is rather permanent and can easily be measured. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798">A hole in a liquid or gas is rather temporary. Perhaps even the vacuum itself which is by definition, not a void.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798">So if energy is removed from a fermion, in the simplest case an electron, the added energy will not come from mass since there isn't any. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798">Therefore, the energy has to come from a liquid, gas, plasma or the vacuum itself. For vacuum testing, the other three are eliminated and whatever is left in the polarized vacuum (PV) is available to provide the elements necessary to replace the emitted energy. In a 1D line or 2D plane, squeezed states may occur and energy from the vacuum may be obtained. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34798">That improbable conclusion is not comforting since many folks have overstated and grossly exaggerated the Casimir force with speculation. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34797"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34797">David</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34796"><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34679" style="display: block;"> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34678"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34677"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34676"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34675"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34674"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34717"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Hodge John <jchodge@frontier.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:22 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [General] your email<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34688"><br><div id="yiv3924051738"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34687"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459474051836_34686"><div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3309">
</div><div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3383"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3384" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Chandra:</span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3385"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3386" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“wave…” agree with first 2
paragraphs.</span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3387"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3388" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3389"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3390" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“Particle is not a wave” yes
but remainder is confusing. A particle can be excited into a motion where the
position over time matches a harmonic oscillator solution to the wave equation,
but is not a harmonic oscillation itself - the exciting field must be
continuous to transmit the wave. I add that part of the tension field is
inertia. That is like a taught string, when the position of an element is at
the start (neutral) position - the particle has maximum kinetic energy - hence
inertia. Without the inertial, the element would not continue to build
potential energy to continue the oscillation. </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3391"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3392" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3393"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3394" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“this is another…”: the wave
equation and the solution is a math description of some process. The definition
of the terms depends on the physics. The wave equation is not the physics - it
is a transformation into a calculation environment. The transformation works
only so long as it predicts future values of the variables. However, if the <span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3395" style="color:black;">Schrodinger</span> wave equation works, a question of
whether the $\psi$ may represent a wave in a continuous medium (ether, plenum)
that acts like the “space” of general relativity. That is it influences matter
(particles) and is influenced by particles.</span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3396"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3397" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3398" style=""><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3399" style="font-size:11.0pt;">I think the wave-particle duality has been rejected by
experiment - The Afshar experiment and the partial illumination in the slit
experiment (</span><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3400" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“Diffraction
experiment and its STOE photon simulation program rejects wave models of light”
<a rel="nofollow" id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3401" target="_blank" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603</a>
).</span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3402"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3403" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3404"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3405" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“Do not try…”. Humankind and
the current standard models have way too many inconsistencies in the physics
(not math) and way too many ad hoc assumptions. Time for a revolution of a new
paradigm. </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3406"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3407" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3408"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3409" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“PS.” If a photon (energy)
leaves or enters something, Conservation of energy suggests the something is
diminished in energy. However, many models have such emissions and the
resultant something unchanged. So, How is the energy recovered? What physical
process is happening to recover/absorb/transform the energy? If we don’t know,
we have some new physics at work.</span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3410"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3411" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3412"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3413" style="font-size:11.0pt;">The question of how emitted
energy cannot be exhausted remains. There must be a means to recover the energy
or the process decays. </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3414"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3415" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3416"><span id="yiv3924051738yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1459464494141_3417" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hodge</span></div><div dir="ltr">
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