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</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2868">Albrecht:</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2869" style="mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none">The
STOE model like your model has been in development for a long time (over 10
years). “<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2870" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Universe
according to the STOE” <a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2871" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1648">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1648</a>
give a summary just before the inertia and structure papers. Short version:
Hods are 2D surfaces that forces zero plenum density at the surface. The plenum
has properties and a place in physics of “space” of Genral Relativity, ether of
old, and quantum vacuum (or the olde concept of the medium of the “subquantum
fluctuations”<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2872" style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>of Bohm - Vigier). The
hods attract plenum to form matter. Light is a column of hods in the
diffraction experiments. </span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2873" style="mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2874" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> </span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2875" style="mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2876" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">The Equivalence Principle is
a derived (not based) proportionality relation between the number of hods in a
chunk of matter (gravitational potential) and the captured plenum (inertial
potential). </span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2877">“If an observer carries a charged particle with him, it will
radiate at acceleration, but not at rest in a gravitational field. So, both can
be distinguished.” I’m not familiar with an experiment that shows this. A
particle, charged of not, will radiate energy in an accelerated field (the
basis of the gravitational wave experiment?) If charge is a radiation (such as
individual hods - future paper) then charge is “radiated”. Acceleration
provides a change in the radiation. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2878"> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2879">Gravitation results from the varying speed of light?
Interesting. (rather than gravitation causing a varying speed of light - my
view). Have you an experiment in mind that distinguishes these views. The STOE
version of diffraction depends on the plenum field (gravitational field varying
the speed of light). When it gets to the equations, I suppose they can be
inversions of each other. So, which is simpler or is there an experiment?</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2880"> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2881">“Influences” - How? Action at a distance? Modifying a field?
How does it modify the gravitational field of mass ?</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2882"> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2883">Well, we each pursue our model. Do you have a new experiment
in mind to distinguish your model from others?</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461084770750_2884">Hodge</div><div dir="ltr">
</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 12:52 PM, Albrecht Giese <genmail@a-giese.de> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9968112992"><div>
Dear John Hodge,<br clear="none">
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thank you for your comment. I have looked into the first one of the
papers you have given in your mail. I have the impression that I
should have followed the preceding discussion about your model, I
missed that as there were too many other activities at my place. To
understand your model I should at least have to understand what Hods
are and what the plenum is. Without this knowledge I cannot follow
sufficiently.<br clear="none">
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Anyway, I have two comments to your first paper. 1.) You base your
model, as you write, to the Equivalence Principle. As far as I
remember, we have discussed this topic here already. To my knowledge
the Equivalence Principle (i.e. the equivalence of gravitation and
acceleration) is falsified. One example: If an observer carries a
charged particle with him, it will radiate at acceleration, but not
at rest in a gravitational field. So, both can be distinguished. 2.)
I have a completely different understanding of gravitation: In my
understanding it is not the force no. 4 as main stream physics
assumes. On the contrary, it is no force at all but a refraction
process, caused by the varying speed of light in a gravitational
field, which influences the internal oscillation in elementary
particles and causes them to be accelerated towards the source of
the gravitational field.<br clear="none">
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This is for today.<br clear="none">
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Best regards<br clear="none">
Albrecht<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9968112992moz-cite-prefix">Am 10.04.2016 um 10:50 schrieb Hodge
John:<br clear="none">
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<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2660">Albrecht:</div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2661">I like your
emphasis on experiment.</div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2662">The STOE model
suggests the extent characteristic is where
the inertia resides. The STOE posits the plenum (like “space”
of GR) and hods.
The Hods are 2 dimensional and causes gravitational forces.
The plenum has the
extent and inertia. A photon is a column of hods with plenum
between the hods.
Hence, the extent is where the inertia is.</div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2663" style=""><span id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2664" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Inertia
according to the
STOE <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2665" target="_blank" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1676">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1676</a>
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<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2666"> </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2667">Further the
diffraction experiment is a new experiment that
is easy to do for yourself. The STOE photon model is the only
model not
rejected by this experiment. I urge you to do the experiment.
</div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2668" style=""><span id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2669" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Diffraction
experiment and
its STOE photon simulation program rejects wave models of
light <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2670" target="_blank" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603</a>
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<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2671"> </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2672">I think this may
be the experiment you are seeking. It
rejects wave models. Because light and electrons display
diffraction effects,
the electron rather than a photon in the experiment should
work the same. I
think your model will fail the experiment. But then it should
be done. </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2673"> </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2674">Papers referenced
in this paper explain how the photon
works. The extent of the photon and its inertia and
gravitational forces are
needed for the math to work. The math works and no other model
is consistent
with this experiment result. </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2675"> </div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2676">When an electron
and positron are collided, only photons
result. This, I think, supports the idea that electrons are
composed of
photons.</div>
<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2677" style=""><span id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2678" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Structure
and spin of the
neutrino, electron, and positron</span></div>
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<div id="yiv9968112992yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460278185687_2683">Hodge</div>
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