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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have a few questions regarding your experiment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>What was the wavelength </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black'><m:r>λ</m:r></span></i></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:4.0pt;mso-text-raise:-4.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=11 height=25 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'> of the laser used? For example, if it was a red laser it was probably in the range of 650nm wavelength. The width of the slits? The distance from the laser to the slits and to the target? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The reason I am asking has to do with the quantization of light. If we assume that Planck’s constant is the quantization of action, and that a single photon has spin angular momentum of hbar, then the effective spin radius of this construct (photon particle) is the wavelength divided by 2 pi.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Then if we assume that transverse waves do indeed travel at the speed of light in space, but that there could also be associated longitudinal waves, which remain principally undetected by normal instrumentation, then we can consider at the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As we study transverse waves in an elastic solid medium we see that the velocity of propagation of a transverse wave is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMathPara><m:oMath><m:sSub><m:sSubPr><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:sSubPr><m:e><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>v</m:r></span></i></m:e><m:sub><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>t</m:r></span></i></m:sub></m:sSub><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>= </m:r></span><m:rad><m:radPr><m:degHide m:val="on"/><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:radPr><m:deg></m:deg><m:e><m:f><m:fPr><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:fPr><m:num><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r></span></i></m:num><m:den><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>p</m:r></span></i></m:den></m:f></m:e></m:rad></m:oMath></m:oMathPara><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=81 height=76 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Where </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><m:sSub><m:sSubPr><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:sSubPr><m:e><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>v</m:r></span></i></m:e><m:sub><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>t</m:r></span></i></m:sub></m:sSub><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr> </m:r></span></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:3.0pt;mso-text-raise:-3.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=18 height=19 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image003.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>is the propagation velocity of the transverse wave, </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r></span></i><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr> </m:r></span></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:3.0pt;mso-text-raise:-3.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=13 height=19 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image005.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>is the shear modulus, and <i>p</i> is the density of the medium.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Longitudinal displacements or longitudinal waves simply travel faster in every known elastic solid medium.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Longitudinal propagation velocity is expressed as:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMathPara><m:oMath><m:sSub><m:sSubPr><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:sSubPr><m:e><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>v</m:r></span></i></m:e><m:sub><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>l</m:r></span></i></m:sub></m:sSub><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>= </m:r></span><m:rad><m:radPr><m:degHide m:val="on"/><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:radPr><m:deg></m:deg><m:e><m:f><m:fPr><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:fPr><m:num><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>K</m:r></span></i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>+ </m:r></span><m:f><m:fPr><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:fPr><m:num><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>4</m:r></span></m:num><m:den><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>3</m:r></span></m:den></m:f><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r></span></i></m:num><m:den><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>p</m:r></span></i></m:den></m:f></m:e></m:rad></m:oMath></m:oMathPara><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=158 height=85 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image007.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Where </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><m:sSub><m:sSubPr><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:sSubPr><m:e><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>v</m:r></span></i></m:e><m:sub><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>l</m:r></span></i></m:sub></m:sSub><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr> </m:r></span></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:4.0pt;mso-text-raise:-4.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=22 height=25 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image009.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>is the propagation velocity of the longitudinal wave or displacement, and <i>K</i> is the compression modulus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Since both the <i>K</i> modulus and </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r></span></i></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:4.0pt;mso-text-raise:-4.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=14 height=28 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image011.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> modulus are always positive we can see that the longitudinal displacement propagation velocity will always be faster than the transverse wave velocity: </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><m:d><m:dPr><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;font-style:italic'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:dPr><m:e><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>K</m:r></span></i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>+ </m:r></span><m:f><m:fPr><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:fPr><m:num><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>4</m:r></span></m:num><m:den><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r><m:rPr><m:scr m:val="roman"/><m:sty m:val="p"/></m:rPr>3</m:r></span></m:den></m:f><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r></span></i></m:e></m:d><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r> </m:r></span></i></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:10.0pt;mso-text-raise:-10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=108 height=43 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image013.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>is always larger than</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>μ</m:r><m:r>.</m:r></span></i></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:4.0pt;mso-text-raise:-4.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=19 height=28 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image015.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>So I am wondering if the photon is a tightly confined rotational transverse wave, with a radius expressed as </span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><!--[if gte msEquation 12]><m:oMath><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black'><m:r> </m:r></span></i><m:sSub><m:sSubPr><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;font-style:italic'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:sSubPr><m:e><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>r</m:r></span></i></m:e><m:sub><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'><m:r>p</m:r></span></i></m:sub></m:sSub><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black'><m:r>=</m:r></span></i><m:f><m:fPr><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black;font-style:italic'><m:ctrlPr></m:ctrlPr></span></m:fPr><m:num><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black'><m:r>λ</m:r></span></i></m:num><m:den><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black'><m:r>2</m:r><m:r>π</m:r></span></i></m:den></m:f></m:oMath><![endif]--><![if !msEquation]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;position:relative;top:8.5pt;mso-text-raise:-8.5pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=69 height=37 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image017.png@01D1BCDF.1ADA7B70"></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'> which also has a small associated longitudinal wave component acting as a "pilot" wave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>For a red laser the speculated radius of a photon would be 103.45nm so its diameter would be 206.9nm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Your thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Chip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hodge John<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [General] separate the inertial and gravitational aspects of mass<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3438"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Vivian Robinson:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3436"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I suggest the following experiment does separate the inertial and gravitational aspects of mass. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3435"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3434"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Diffraction experiment and its STOE photon simulation program rejects wave models of light <a href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3432">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603</a> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3431"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3452"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>STOE assumptions that model particle diffraction and that replaces QM </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3455"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><a href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1719">http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1719</a> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3456"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3457"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>The proposed photon model predicted this experiment. Some of the required postulates to make the model match experimental observations are to separate the inertial and gravitational mass. No other model of the photon or of diffraction fits the observation. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3458"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3459"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>The diffraction model also explains the “walking drop” observation of Fig. 5c in </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Bush,~J.W.M., 2015, <i>The new wave of pilot-wave theory</i>, Physics Today, 68(8), 47</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3461"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><a href="http://newfos.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/Pilot_Waves_Phys_Today_Aug_2015.pdf">http://newfos.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/Pilot_Waves_Phys_Today_Aug_2015.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3463"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>wherein the inertia of the medium allows the wave to reflect and influence the drop that caused the wave. Compare Fig. 5c of Bush with Fig. 1 of “</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Diffraction experiment …”</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3465"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3466"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Hodge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3467"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1464885429737_3468"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>