<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hello Grahame,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Some of the empirical evidence that is consistent with the relativistically-moving spin-1/2 charged photon model of the electron, that you asked fort, is indicated below. You are right that a lateral decrease in the size of an electron with increasing speed raises questions about relativity, which is fine. But facts are facts, and need explaining. Maybe we can make some progress here to further clarify these issues, as John W, Alexander, Martin, Vivian, Chip and yourself among others, have already contributed to.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) The model explains the origin of the inertial mass m of the resting electron as due to the time rate of change of the momentum mc of the circulating photon having circulating energy Eo=mc^2 (other circling-photon models can also explain this), according to Newton’s 2nd law F=dp/dt = ma .</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2) The model explains the origin of the inertial mass gamma m of a moving electron in the same way, as the time rate of change of the proposed circulating total electron momentum P=gamma mc of the helically moving spin-1/2 charged photon in my model, having the indicated increased frequency f=gamma mc^2/h and decreased wavelength lambda = h/(gamma mc) This empirical “transverse" inertial mass gamma m of a particle works in relativistic kinematics (for example in circular particle accelerators) whether you call it inertial mass or not). The relativistic kinematics “longitudinal” inertial mass gamma^3 m of a linearly accelerated electron is also consistent with the model.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">3) The model explains the underlying nature of the experimentally-based (and very useful) relativistic energy-momentum equation for a particle: E^2 = p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4 , as the relation between the internal circulating momentum mc of a particle’s circulating charged photon, the external momentum p=gamma mv of the moving particle (composed of a circulating charged photon), and the total momentum P=E/c= gamma mc of the moving particle’s helically moving charged photon , where P is the vector sum of the transverse internal momentum mc and the longitudinal external momentum gamma mv of the particle given by the Pythagorean theorem (since the momenta mc and gamma mv are at right angles: P^2 = p^2 + (mc)^2 .</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">4) The model gives a new derivation of the electron’s relativistic de Broglie wavelength Ldb= h/(gamma mv) , derived from the longitudinal component of the wave vector K of the helically-moving charged photon of momentum P= h/(gamma mc) = hbar K.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">5) The model explains (at least partially) the very small size of the electron (less than 10^-18 m) measured in high energy electron scattering experiments at around 30GeV, since the radius of the helical trajectory of the spin-1/2 charged photon in a relativistic electron falls in the model as (hbar/2mc) x 1/gamma^2 with increasing electron speed v.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The above results from the model are all explained, with mathematical derivations, in my articles below. Other related articles are at <a href="https://santarosa.academia.edu/RichardGauthier" class="">https://santarosa.academia.edu/RichardGauthier</a> . </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) <a href="https://www.academia.edu/25641654/A_New_Derivation_of_Eo_mc_2_Explains_a_Particles_Inertia" class="">https://www.academia.edu/25641654/A_New_Derivation_of_Eo_mc_2_Explains_a_Particles_Inertia</a> </div><div class="">2) <a href="https://www.academia.edu/25599166/Origin_of_the_Electrons_Inertia_and_Relativistic_Energy_Momentum_Equation_in_the_Spin_Charged_Photon_Electron_Model" class="">https://www.academia.edu/25599166/Origin_of_the_Electrons_Inertia_and_Relativistic_Energy_Momentum_Equation_in_the_Spin_Charged_Photon_Electron_Model</a> and</div><div class="">3) <a href="https://www.academia.edu/15686831/Electrons_are_spin_1_2_charged_photons_generating_the_de_Broglie_wavelength" class="">https://www.academia.edu/15686831/Electrons_are_spin_1_2_charged_photons_generating_the_de_Broglie_wavelength</a> (SPIE August 2015 article)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">with best regards,</div><div class=""> Richard</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 22, 2016, at 3:37 AM, Dr Grahame Blackwell <<a href="mailto:grahame@starweave.com" class="">grahame@starweave.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class="">Hi Richard,</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class="">I'm not sure where you found your empirical evidence that "<font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class="">The helically-moving charged photon composing the recoiling electron would continue to make two full helical loops for each wavelength (as in a resting electron) but at a higher looping frequency</font>", I'd be very interested to see that. Or is it just a supposition based on SR frame symmetry?</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class="">Either way it seems to me that this proposal creates a major problem for SR (and for the established empirical evidence): if the formative energy of a particle is circulating faster in a moving particle, then the effects of that energy flow (i.e. time effects within the particle, such as particle decay - which can ONLY be down to internal energy flow) will occur *faster* in a moving particle than in a static one; this appears to be totally contrary to observed fact, for example in fast-moving muons. [I appreciate that this evidence relates to muons and you're talking about electrons - but if completely different principles apply in those two elementary particles I think we'll need an explanation for why - and some empirical evidence].</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class="">Best regards,</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class="">Grahame</font></div><blockquote style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 128); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class="" type="cite"><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class="">----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="richgauthier@gmail.com" href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" class="">Richard Gauthier</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class="">Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="phil.butler@canterbury.ac.nz" href="mailto:phil.butler@canterbury.ac.nz" class="">Phil Butler</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="abooth@ieee.org" href="mailto:abooth@ieee.org" class="">Anthony Booth</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="sleary@vavi.co.uk" href="mailto:sleary@vavi.co.uk" class="">Stephen Leary</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="martin.van.der.mark@philips.com" href="mailto:martin.van.der.mark@philips.com" class="">Mark,Martin van der</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="slf@unsw.edu.au" href="mailto:slf@unsw.edu.au" class="">Solomon Freer</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 22, 2016 5:43 AM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] PS: Matter comprised of light-speed energy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Hi John D,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> In Compton scattering, the wavelength of the incoming photon increases, not decreases, as the photon is scattered by the electron. The energy lost by the Compton-scattered x-ray photon is gained by the recoiling electron. The internal wavelength of the circulating spin-1/2 charged photon composing the recoiling electron would decrease corresponding to the increased energy of the recoiling electron. The helically-moving charged photon composing the recoiling electron would continue to make two full helical loops for each wavelength (as in a resting electron) but at a higher looping frequency, corresponding to the shorter wavelength distance along the helix for two helical loops..</div></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""> Richard</div><div class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div></blockquote><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; 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