<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hello Grahame,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Thank you very much for attaching the first eight pages of your book. It gave a very good idea of what is to come later in the book, but it gave no details of your spun-light particle model itself. I have gotten the impression from your article that I also read that a) the spun-light particle is composed of a photon moving circularly or helically (depending on the inertial frame) at light speed, b) the lightspeed of the circulating photon would therefore be the same as measured from any inertial frame, c) the radius of the helical motion of the circulating photon would be independent of the speed of particle, d) an electron would be modeled by a double-looping photon with the above properties, e) the observed frequency of looping of the photon in a moving electron would decrease with increasing speed of the particle due to time dilation, f) the frequency of the photon itself would increase with the increasing speed of the particle due to the particle’s increased energy. I hope you will correct me if any of these are incorrect.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> I think I understand better your distinction between subjective and objective reality: a) All observations or physical measurements by an observer of a phenomenon (like observing and photographing a stick that looks bent in water) are “subjective" by your definition. b) The straightness of a straight stick is an objective fact, again by your definition of "objective", no matter how many people view the stick as bent in water. c) You assume that the objective straightness of a straight stick can somehow be known independently of any measurement or observation of the stick, which would only give subjective, observer-dependent knowledge of the stick. My question here is, how can you ever know if a stick is really (objectively) straight if you (or anyone else or a group of qualified physicists and technicians) cannot absolutely rely on any “subjective" physical measurements of the stick by any conceivable measurement process? My answer: You can’t. Please show me how this is a wrong conclusion. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> It strikes me as unbelievable that you can somehow conclude from your hypothetical spun-light model of particles that there is some frame in the universe that is absolutely at rest, whether this is based on CMB measurements (which are in your view subjective and cannot determine objective fact) or some other measurement process (which would also be subjective). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Your statement <span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 11pt;" class="">[Now that science has confirmed that electrons are formed from photons of
light-type energy, it’s clear that this waveform is simply the photon wave.]</span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span> seems to imply that you think it has been proved experimentally that an electron is composed of a photon. Do you really think that “an electron is composed of a photon” is experimentally proved by the experimental creation of an electron from two interacting photons?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> You choose to not participate in critically analyzing another person’s electron model that you think is false. You might consider that pointing out a mistake in another person’s theoretical model (whether already published or not) is doing a favor to that person so that they won’t waste their own time (while possibly wasting many other people’s time also who download their faulty article) continuing to believe and hope that their theoretical model of an electron can only be disproved or discredited by experiment and not by serious conceptual or calculational errors in their model, that they themselves overlooked and would not have published with these errors if they had known about them.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> You have such a strong belief in the correctness of your own model of physical reality derived from spun-light models of particles that you offer a series of online classes to teach it to others for a fee. Yet I have not seen any explanation so far about why your particle model (say for an electron) is consistent with the well-known experimental size determination of a highly relativistic electron as less than about 10^-18m , as found in high energy electron scattering experiments at around 30 GeV. Your own electron model would continue to have the same radius at 30 GeV as at rest (around 10^-13 m). Can you explain how your electron model is consistent, rather than highly inconsistent, with this well-known experimental electron scattering result?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With best wishes,</div><div class=""> Richard</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 4, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Dr Grahame Blackwell <<a href="mailto:grahame@starweave.com" class="">grahame@starweave.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Arial" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Hi Richard, Chip, Chandra (et al),<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">I have attached at Richard’s request a copy of the first 10 pages of my book (after index etc); this comprises the first section of my book, the Introduction.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>I believe you’ll see from this my philosophy and my objectives in undertaking my own line of scientific research.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>This is not to identify or define a suitable model for a photon-formed electron – though that is to a limited extent an inevitable by-product of my investigations – but rather to resolve what I have come to see, over some years, as inconsistencies, incompleteness or scope for further understanding in the generally-accepted model of physical reality.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>[Note that, whilst holding firmly to scientific principles, this book is intended to be comprehensible for the most part by non-specialists; this introduction should be read with that in mind.]<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Chandra, I was most impressed (I might even say ‘excited’) by your paper presented last year at the SPIE conference, which you have just circulated (I found myself saying “yes!” out loud several times whilst reading it).<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>I’d like to think that the contents of my book are in the spirit of the outward-looking ‘Perpetual Scout’ scientific approach that you advocate*; I have for some time been concerned by the attitude of science that appears to take the line: “We’ve got it all correct to date, now we just need to fill in the fine detail” (whilst happily accepting the unexplained ‘fact’ of Special Relativity and the unexplained apparent serendipity of Quantum Mechanics).<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>I’m also very enthused by your view that we need to be thinking NOW about how we can ensure that we’re still around beyond our parent star’s main sequence; alignment with cosmic evolution, rather than trying to force our will on it, seems to be a patently obvious strategy.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""></span> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">[* The concept of reverse engineering both physical reality and the evolutionary process is one that I believe has been central to my research.]</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Richard, no matter how much I try I can't find any common ground between our respective understandings of the terms ‘subjective’ and ‘objective’ as applied to material reality.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>For me the term ‘subjective’ is crystal clear in its meaning: it relates to a situation, event or scenario as experienced by an individual or group (possibly a very large group) of individuals – including ‘experience by proxy’ through instrumentation.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>In this situation the sensors of this/those individual(s) – including possibly electromechanical sensors – mediate that experience and thereby provide input to (i.e. variation of) that experience over and above the actuality of the (objective) event or scenario being experienced.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">By contrast the term ‘objective’ refers to the object – the situation, event or scenario itself.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>With regard to that object it matters not one iota what people think – even a great number of highly intelligent people – it will not re-shape itself to conform to their thoughts.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>For example, everyone in the world could think that the earth was flat, it would make absolutely no difference to the shape of our planet – but it<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">would</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make a great deal of difference with respect to their effectiveness in navigating from one place to another!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">If a mathematician proposed that one plus one was equal to two, would you dismiss that as just a personal philosophy of mathematics?<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>I’m not in any way suggesting that my view of reality is the right one, or the only possible one – but I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">am</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>absolutely adamant that if we regard subjective impressions as convertible to objective truth just by sheer weight of numbers then the future of science is doomed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">That’s a major reason why I don’t participate in discussing the pros and cons of various models of the electron, as you say you’d wish me to – it’s not actually possible for me to separate ‘my philosophy’, as you call it, from my perception of what constitutes a better or less good model.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>You’ve proposed (below) that I “point out any defects or limitations in different models” – surely that’s what I’ve tried to do, totally consistently, in a logical way that hopefully doesn’t give offence?<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>But it seems that’s what you object to, since you regard my approach as simply my [personal] philosophy of science and therefore (presumably) not acceptable as a valid contribution to this discussion.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">I’ll continue to participate in this debate, in the only way that makes sense to me (and hopefully makes some sense to some others).<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>If that doesn’t work for you, fine, give it a miss – but I’m afraid I can’t set aside what I see as facts just to join in a conversation on any model that, for what seem to me to be very good reasons, I can’t believe in.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Grahame<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></font></div><blockquote style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 128); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class="" type="cite"><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class="">----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="richgauthier@gmail.com" href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" class="">Richard Gauthier</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class="">Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, July 03, 2016 3:01 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] double photon cycle, subjective v objective realities</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello Grahame,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> You seem unwilling to present the first few pages of your book to help give us more background and context to your particle model and approach. So I think I’ll pass for now on commenting on your distinction between subjective and objective realities, which is more of a statement of your philosophy of science, and how to know what is “real” in physics. Physicists try to interpret, understand and predict aspects of the physical world, based on ideas, concepts, mathematics, models and objective physical measurements and observations. I think we are all engaged in this in one way or another, despite any differences in our philosophies about the nature of reality.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> I think your model of the electron and other particles should be separable from your particular philosophy of science, so that others who may not share your philosophy of science, as well as those who do, may be able to decide if your model is useful or better than other physical models, for “doing physics”. One way is to look at the models themselves quantitatively and to compare and contrast one model with other models to see how well these models (all relating to photons and particles in our discussion group) stand up to critical scrutiny as well as to experimental support. I think that’s partly what this discussion group is about. I hope you are willing to join in this effort, to point out any defects or limitations in different models, to encourage improvement of weaker models, and to acknowledge any strengths in these or other models, since none of them is perfect.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Richard</div><div class=""> </div></blockquote><span id="cid:C7E3EB98-0897-4DEF-AB28-164A34AD313F@hsd1.ca.comcast.net."><mythintro.pdf></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; 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