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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Hi Chip,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>I have to say, I love this
post!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>[Yes, I have to 'fess up that one
reason that I like it so much is because I've been thinking along very
similar lines - part of what I want to include in my next more general
response.]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>In my time I've been involved in a
number of team-based software engineering projects, including leadership of a
few big ones (my CEng is for software engineering). One of the major
developments in such endeavours (generally, not just in my camp) was the
introduction of a (fairly abstract) concept labelled 'egoless programming':
different members of the team had responsibility for different aspects of the
task, but of course it was essential for those elements to fit together.
One major impediment to this, it became clear, was if one member of the team
thought 'their' bit of coding was particularly neat, particularly clever.
At the end of the day, the ideal solution is one in which no team member has
gone overboard in trying to imprint their personality onto it - not always easy
to achieve, sometimes the odd team member would drop out in disgust at 'not
being properly valued' (usually an ego thing); but the end product could
generally be reckoned to be better than the sum of all its parts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>'Egoless science' may likewise prove
to be a difficult goal - but if we in this team can achieve it who knows what
might come of it!?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>G</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chipakins@gmail.com href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com">Chip Akins</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">'Nature of Light and
Particles - General Discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 15, 2016 3:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] double photon
cycle, subjective v objective realities</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hi All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">This comment is not so much
about the science as it is about the scientists.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">It seems to me that, due in part
to philosophy, the discoveries of the 1800’s and 1900’s have been
misinterpreted, and forced to fit theories which were philosophically
motivated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">With each new discovery, the
proponents of popular theory scramble to explain the apparently conflicting
results using their favorite (philosophically motivated) approach. While
all along saying “let the experimental data be the final
authority”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The universe does not care about
our philosophy or what our popular theories are at this tiny moment in our
evolution.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">This forum has been an
enlightening experiment for me. I have watched as participants have
largely discarded the ideas of others in favor of their own. I have been
guilty of this as we all probably have.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The reasons for this are
many. We have all done a significant amount of research and therefore
developed <I>our own philosophy</I>. If a suggestion differs from our
perception (which is motivated by our philosophy) we often do not take the
time to study the suggestion. Of course we have to do this to some
extent to weed out the useless, and use our time wisely, but while doing so it
would be better for us to make sure we are not throwing out some good stuff
along the way. Any one of us could be on the wrong track and failing to see it
because we are not able to adapt to a new perspective. Do we want to waste
years going down the wrong path? Only to find later that we could have taken a
better path and made more progress for humanity?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">There is only one solution to
this set of problems, and that solution will not change because of our
individual, or collective, perception. So we are only harming our own progress
when we don’t intelligently listen and try to prove clearly whether a
suggestion could be legitimate.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">One thing which has become clear
to me over the years is that <I>theory is almost always philosophically
motivated</I>. And any theory which does not start by showing cause is
one which I suspect and will try to reevaluate.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">We really know so little of our
universe.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">So in my opinion, Chandra’s
suggestions that we reevaluate our perspectives and methods of thought is an
urgent one for the development and progress of physics. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">We cannot prevent philosophy
from influencing our thoughts, but if we are consistently aware that we could
be just flat wrong, we will fare better in our endeavor. When we decide that
we have found the answer and stop looking we have closed our senses from
further discovery.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I consider many of you to be my
friends and hold you in very high esteem. I would love to see you win the
Nobel Prize. But more than that I would love to see you solve many of
the remaining puzzles so humanity can see the awesome universe clearly,
finally. So that humanity can then develop the resources for us to continue to
evolve and flourish.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">It is my opinion that among the
contributions to this ongoing discussion lie the keys to unlocking many of the
remaining puzzles of the universe. But that not any one of us has really
understood how these pieces fit. I think some are very close to that
more complete understanding, but that all of us might be allowing our existing
body of work and our existing philosophy to hinder our next steps in making
real progress.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">All the best to each of you in
this endeavor.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">With Warmest
Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Chip Akins<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>