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<p>John:</p>
<p>Who can argue with learning and following nature's rules ,
however two thoughts</p>
<p>1) the Malthus catastrophe has always been averted by technology
breakthrough which improved our ecological nitch</p>
<p> I see no reason we need to be stuck in the current paradigm ,
but I believe we need to examine the foundations of our physics,
philosophy, and world view package we have been saddled with
during the 20'th century. Quantum theory may have helped build
some systems, but it is not comprehensible without major ad hoc
miracles attached. We need a new way of looking at things. <br>
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<p>2) Is it possible that our current defeatist attitude regarding
technology is due to the aging process. WE now have baby boomers
retiring and they just want a steady as she goes peaceful last
years with no challenges. <br>
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<p>Perhaps we need to wait tll the baby boomer generation has
passed?</p>
<p>best</p>
<p>Wolf<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/21/2016 11:46 AM, Hodge John
wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2434"> Grahame:<br
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I echo your concern for humanity's future. I suggest Nature
(or natural laws) has controlled the overpopulation problems
of species and humanity. All we really need to do is determine
nature's rules and follow them. Unfortunately society is
currently deviating from nature's rules. The result has
historically been catastrophic for humanity as noted by
Malthus's catastrophe. Our self-control can avert such a
catastrophe. Note the Chinese attempt was contrary to Nature's
rules. The Chinese slowed the birth of healthy children and
supported the growth of sick and infirm children.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2436"><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2437">A child born with
a severe disability is a sink for resources that may be better
spent on advancing humanity (healthy children). Ancient
societies lacking technology let the disabled die. The
Polynesians on their island had a socially accepted way to
commit suicide so the island resources would not be
over-taxed. I society doesn't accept nature's laws; Nature
will kill that society (the weak certainly and many of the
strong). Thus the current ongoing collapse of the US (and
western society) will continue. Many of the characteristics of
collapse of modern society have been present for several
decades [pp. 209-216] Tainter,~J.~A., 1990. ``The Collapse of
Complex Societies''. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2438"><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2439">On a larger
scale, humanitarianism harms society by other causes of
failure. Humanitarianism induces a strong trend toward
conformity (being Politically Correct). This is a need to
maintain the status quo and to reject advances in science.
Historically, societies that stop scientific advance loose
wars to societies that bring scientific advances. </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2441"><A
HREF=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1093">"http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1093"</a>>Growth
challenge of the United States</A></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2443"><br
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2444">
This is a criteria and method/rules for developing advances in
science:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2445">
<A
HREF=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1757">"http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1757"</a>>STOE
emergence</A></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471805006616_2446"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hodge<br
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