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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Dear Chandra, John D, John H, Wolf
and others,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Thanks, Chandra, for your
response. I totally agree that the answer to the gravitation issue (as to
so many others) involves reverse engineering the system we refer to as
reality. More on that below. (I also find myself in strong agreement
with your views on 'the spacetime continuum'.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>John D, I agree also the the
'curvature' of spacetime is in fact inhomogeneity of the electromagnetic field
density - which also appears to concur with Hammond's view. More on this
also below.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Wolf, I understand your preference
for considering the interplay of electricity and gravity/inertia; however, given
that gravitation is an effect wholly engendered by particles of matter, it seems
most unlikely that we're going to understand gravity without getting a clear
grip on those particles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>The SR 'explanation' of
gravitation as 'curvature of spacetime' is in fact no explanation at all - it
says nothing about WHAT is being curved, HOW it's being curved, WHAT it is about
matter that causes that curvature or WHY light and material objects move in
accordance with that 'curvature'. It's a useful picture, certainly, but in
terms of explanation it appears to add little to Newton's action-at-a-distance
(other than relativistic effects).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT color=#000080 size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>So let's try a bit of that reverse
systems engineering:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (1): It's known (and has been
since at least 1934) that particles of matter are (time-varying) electromagnetic
constructs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (2): Given fact (1), and given
that electromagnetic field effects drop off inverse-quadratically in relation to
the distance from their source, it follows that material particles will
have a presence that likewise drops off as the inverse square of
distance; that presence is detectable - we refer to it by two names:
gravitation and electrical charge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (3): In this very real sense
every particle of matter is in fact unlimited spatially in its extent; the
limitations that we attribute to such particles are in fact limitations of our
own perception, which is only capable of detecting them through 'virtual photon'
interactions, which are interactions between the central 'cores' (loops) of
particles being sensed and particles doing the sensing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (4): Given facts (1) -
(3), it follows that the whole of space will be permeated by the totality of
(time-varying) electromagnetic field effects from all the particles in the
universe, each contributing in accordance with the inverse square law; given
also the evening out of 'positive' and 'negative' charge effects on a
macroscopic scale, these field effects constitute what we refer to as 'the
universal gravitational field'.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (5): That field will vary
in intensity in accordance with distance from the various massive bodies that
form it; this varying intensity of electromagnetic field effects will influence
the behaviour of other electromagnetic constructs passing through that field,
i.e. ensembles of particles that form massive bodies; (it is implicit in this,
of course, that the principle of coherent superposition of linear photons won't
apply to these non-linear time-varying electromagnetic field effects - i.e.they
will influence each other through a complex process of mutual
interference).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (6): This varying density
of field effects will give this continuum a 'shape' defined by the surfaces of
equal intensity of those effects; these 3-D contours will effectively determine
the motion of electromagnetic constructs - light, particles - through that
medium; (any scuba diver who has seen or felt a thermocline in water will have a
good analogy to work from here).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (7): It's implicit, and would
necessarily be the case, that, although electrostatic charge 'cancel out'
if they are equal and opposite, the electromagnetic field effects giving rise to
those charges will in fact be additive across the cosmos; likewise, though
gravitational 'pull' from opposing directions may appear to cancel out, there
may still be a strong gravitational field in that location - think of a plateau
high on a great mountain, with a small hillock on that platea.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Fact (8): Substantial
supporting detail for this perspective on gravitation can be found in my paper
'Cosmic System Dynamics', posted with my email of 20th August.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>A couple of points as a
postscript:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>(a) This means that we
ourselves, being ensembles of material particles, actually extend across the
whole cosmos; this may prove relevant;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>(b) The entire cosmos is in
fact one electromagnetic entity; from the QM point of view there is just ONE
wavefunction, spanning the whole universe: wavefunctions for single particles or
ensembles of particles are in fact local approximations to this universal
wavefunction, in which terms for more distant influences have been ignored as
being insignificant; this could well have something to say about 'quantum
randomness', which may in fact be those other influences tipping the balance
(this is also expanded upon in my book).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Best regards to all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Grahame</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu
href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">Roychoudhuri, Chandra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">Nature of Light and
Particles - General Discussion</A> ; <A title=chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu
href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">Roychoudhuri, Chandra</A> ; <A
title=chandra@phys.uconn.edu href="mailto:chandra@phys.uconn.edu">Chandra
UConn</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] Gravity and
ultraweak-photonemission</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Grahame: I like your spirit, the mode of thinking. I call it ergently
needed "Evolution Process Congruent Thinking", which I sometimes express as,
"Reverse System Engineering Thinking".</DIV>
<DIV>My papers can be downloaded from the web: phy.ucon.edu -- faculty --
research; the link is below my image.</DIV>
<DIV>Keep up the good spirit.</DIV>
<DIV>Chandra. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: #575757; FONT-SIZE: 85%">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 5
ACTIVE™, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>-------- Original
message --------<BR>From: Dr Grahame Blackwell <<A
href="mailto:grahame@starweave.com">grahame@starweave.com</A>> <BR>Date:
8/21/2016 8:04 AM (GMT-05:00) <BR>To: Nature of Light and Particles - General
Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org> <BR>Subject:
Re: [General] Gravity and ultraweak-photonemission <BR><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Thanks John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>I'm more than ever convinced that
unless we can get a better grasp of what 'space-time' actually IS - which
fundamentally means a proper understanding of gravitation - then our species
is at very serious risk of imploding and taking much (most?) of life on
this planet with us. For the past century or more we've been looking
inward rather than outward; humankind is essentally an outward-looking race
(the very word 'race' implies that!), and without somewhere to look outward TO
we tend to flounder and bicker - just look around the planet today! The
world is so vastly overcrowded now, and set to be increasingly more so, with
numerous environmental issues to compound the problem. We need new
horizons, new frontiers, more than we ever did in the time of Vasco de
Gama and Columbus!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>[As an aside, I hope we'd also be
rather more considerate of any indigenous lifeforms that those who
followed Columbus!]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>That's a major reason why I've
offered my proposal on gravitation for consideration. If we don't crack
this one, VERY soon, we may run out of time, lebensraum AND the ability to
deal with the pressure-cooker environment we've created for ourselves.
David Attenborough is proposing that we seriously limit population growth; the
Chinese have tried that and it didn't work - and it never will; the 'prime
directive' built into our makeup by evolution is procreation. Our planet
is like a dandelion head full of seeds ready to fly - we've even been
exploring the heavens around us for places to fly TO! What we need now
is the way to do it; I earnestly believe that the way to do it is there in a
greater understanding of matter, space-time and gravitation - but not as long
as the established scientific community insists on hanging on to outdated
paradigms and doggedly refuses to even look at things from a new
perspective.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Ok, off my soap-box now. But
I do really hope that a few of you out there will take a look at my paper
posted with my last email; if there's something clearly wrong with it, please
tell me - if not, please tell others! Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Grahame</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=johnduffield@btconnect.com
href="mailto:johnduffield@btconnect.com">John Duffield</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">'Nature of Light
and Particles - General Discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] Gravity and
ultraweak-photonemission</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Grahame:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I share your general
sentiment. I’ll read through your paper and get back to you. Meanwhile I
rather think the “shake the rug” waves are light waves. A gravitational
field is a place where space is inhomogeneous, not curved. See what Percy
Hammond says</SPAN><SPAN class=comment-copy><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia',serif; COLOR: #242729; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="http://www.compumag.org/jsite/images/stories/newsletter/ICS-99-06-2-Hammond.pdf">here</A>:
<I>"We conclude that the field describes the curvature that characterizes
the electromagnetic interaction"</I>. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Regards</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">John D</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext" lang=EN-US>
General
[mailto:general-bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dr Grahame Blackwell<BR><B>Sent:</B> 20 August 2016
16:37<BR><B>To:</B> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion
<general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[General] Gravity and ultraweak-photonemission</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi
Wolfgang, John M, John D, Hubert, Vladimir, Beverly et al.,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There
appear to be very strong reasons to believe that gravitation is in fact an
EM effect. If one starts from the premise that elementary particles
are themselves electromagnetic constructs then it's almost a foregone
conclusion. That premise was strongly evidenced by Landau &
Lifshits in Sov. Phys., 1934, reinforced by Breit & Wheeler later that
same year and proved beyond all reasonable doubt at SLAC in 1997 by Burke et
al. (Phys Rev Lett 79, pp1626-9).</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It's
at times somewhat paradoxical to me that physicists (present company
excepted!) all too often go looking for complicated explanations when
there's a simple one staring them in the face. If one simply sees the
force of attraction between unlike unit charges as being minutely greater
than the force of repulsion between like charges - and there's no known
reason why they should be identical (in fact it's likely that they won't) -
then gravitation drops out totally naturally as the difference between those
two effects. This would seem to sit well with Occam's razor since it
eliminates the need for one otherwise totally unexplained cosmic force at a
stroke. We know that every nucleon is made up of a mix of
particles of opposing charge (quarks) to give an overall charge; it seems
eminently likely that even those quarks are formed from energies that, taken
separately, would give rise to either positive or negative charge
elements to give the overall charge for a quark - this links the
gravitational effect of a particle directly to its total energy content and
so to its total mass.</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I've
attached a copy of my paper, published in 'Kybernetes' five years ago, that
details this proposal for gravitation. You'll see that it posits the
notion that space(-time) has a 'texture' (also explaining its 'stiffness'
and the 'curvature of spacetime') given by the summation of all time-varying
EM field effects emanating from all of the material particles in the
universe - this of course draws on the fact that electromagnetic fields are
unlimited in their reach (and electromagnetic potential is unblockable -
Aharonov-Bohm Effect), i.e. that what we experience as a localised particle
is just the 'core', so to speak, of an electromagnetic field effect
unlimited in its extent. The (-time) in brackets above reflects the
fact that this 'texture' of this 'neo-aether' is continually varying as
celestial bodies (and groups of celestial bodies) are themselves in
continuous motion, so also is their contribution to this 'textured'
continuum.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'd be
most interested in any feedback on this proposal, including of course any
clear reasons (if any such exist) why it may not be a feasible
proposition. You'll note that this concept includes a pretty thorough
explanation for every aspect of the Equivalence Principle as included in
GR. There's also the strong implication that the gravity waves
recently detected are themselves electromagnetic constructs (since the
fabric of spacetime is itself EM in nature, and so susceptible to being
'shaken like a rug' by such waves); this may have something to say to
Beverly's field of interest, since tidal forces are themselves in a sense a
pale shadow of gravity waves.</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks
all,</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Grahame</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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