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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Chandra<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes. And we appreciate your efforts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Albrecht, and all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have attached a short article speculating about how it is the boundary conditions are created for the quantization of light (and matter).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any thoughts, comments, or criticisms are always appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chip<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> Roychoudhuri, Chandra <chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu>; phys@a-giese.de; Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Gravity<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Dear Chandra,<o:p></o:p></p><p>thank you for your mail; and I wish you good luck for your activities. Will be curious what it is.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Sincerely<br>Albrecht<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 13.09.2016 um 22:24 schrieb Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Dear Albrecht: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Pardon me for not replying many of yours, and others, very justified scientific questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>I am in the midst of “battling” something that is very valuable for all of us.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>I would be needing participation from all of you in the near future and I will explain that to all of you. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>; <a href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a>; <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Gravity</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 12.09.2016 um 20:34 schrieb <a href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #C3D9E5 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:7.5pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt;word-wrap:
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after-white-space' name=quote><div style='margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Gesendet:</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> Montag, 12. September 2016 um 16:59 Uhr<br><b>Von:</b> "Albrecht Giese" <a href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a><br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Gravity</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div name=quoted-content><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi Al:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>" </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099'>"Photons" (given anybody's definition) cannot be directly an object of observation. PEROID.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> "</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>In this case please explain the corresponding process in my experiment, i.e. the detection of photons by pair production where all necessary physical quantities for an individual photon have been conserved. The distance between generation and detection was about 10 m.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>AK: You didn't see any photons, rather the pair after the split and infered what happend based on the taget location and the cite of the 'pair production' and their subsequent orbits in a bubble chamber (or equivalent). [If I got the experiment wrong, please describe the target and detection apparatus.] BTW, respecting conservation laws does not require direct observation of a means of interaction between source charges and sink charges, (modulo an uncharged---i.e. unobservable---sink charge). </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>In the experiment photons have been generated having a certain energy. 10 meters downstream an electron-positron-pair was generated representing the same energy. So, there was some object flying between the generation point and the detection point which transported just that energy. And this object did not have any charge. (Otherwise it would have been deflected away as there was a strong magnetic field.)<br><br>If it should not have been a photon as you suspect, should we give this object a different name? Do you propose a name? Then we could have new physics. Existing physics tells us that it was a photon. <br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #C3D9E5 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:7.5pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt;word-wrap:
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after-white-space' name=quote><div name=quoted-content><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>And hi Chandra:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Why can we not assume that the particles "photons" have a "pilot wave" in the sense of de Broglie around them as similarly have e.g. electrons and neutrons? And those pilot waves follow similar rules like the Maxwell equations?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>AK: If the "pilot wve" itself is not of E&M origin, what is it? How does it work? [Granted deBroglie himself did not have specific models for his pilot wave; but others have! For example, see #11 on my web page, <a href="http://www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com">www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>We could also use the understanding of present main stream physics: All particles like photons, electrons, neutrons are a particle and a wave at the same time. If we take the mode as wave in case of the photon we can use Maxwell's equations to describe the situation. - I like the pilot wave of de Broglie better as it is perceptible by human imagination. In the case of the photon the superposition of all pilot waves would in that case fulfil the requirements of Maxwell's equations. Something equivalent should happen to the superposition of the pilot waves of e.g. electrons and neutrons. De Broglie did not specify what the pilot wave is made of. He assumed his "waves of harmony" without further specification. That sounds a bit mysterious. In the case of hadrons those should be waves of the strong force. <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #C3D9E5 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:7.5pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt;word-wrap:
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