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    <p>Dear Chandra,</p>
    <p>thank you for your mail; and I wish you good luck for your
      activities. Will be curious what it is.</p>
    <p>Sincerely<br>
      Albrecht<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.09.2016 um 22:24 schrieb
      Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Dear Albrecht:
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Pardon me for not
            replying many of yours, and others, very justified
            scientific questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I am in the midst
            of “battling” something that is very valuable for all of us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I would be needing
            participation from all of you in the near future and I will
            explain that to all of you.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                General
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:11 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Gravity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Hi!<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Am 12.09.2016 um 20:34 schrieb <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">
              af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> Montag,
                      12. September 2016 um 16:59 Uhr<br>
                      <b>Von:</b> "Albrecht Giese" <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"><genmail@a-giese.de></a><br>
                      <b>An:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                      <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Gravity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                        Al:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">"
                      </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">"Photons"
                         (given anybody's definition) cannot be directly
                        an object of observation.  PEROID.</span><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">
                        "<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">In
                        this case please explain the corresponding
                        process in my experiment, i.e. the detection of
                        photons by pair production where all necessary
                        physical quantities for an individual photon
                        have been conserved. The distance between
                        generation and detection was about 10 m.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">AK:
                         You didn't see any photons, rather the pair
                        after the split and infered what happend based
                        on the taget location and the cite of the 'pair
                        production' and their subsequent orbits in a
                        bubble chamber (or equivalent).  [If I got the
                        experiment wrong, please describe the target and
                        detection apparatus.]   BTW, respecting
                        conservation laws does not require direct
                        observation of a means of interaction between
                        source charges and sink charges, (modulo an
                        uncharged---i.e. unobservable---sink charge).  <o:p>
                        </o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">In the experiment photons have been
          generated  having a certain energy. 10 meters downstream an
          electron-positron-pair was generated representing the same
          energy. So, there was some object flying between the
          generation point and the detection point which transported
          just that energy. And this object did not have any charge.
          (Otherwise it would have been deflected away as there was a
          strong magnetic field.)<br>
          <br>
          If it should not have been a photon as you suspect, should we
          give this object a different name? Do you propose a name? Then
          we could have new physics. Existing physics tells us that it
          was a photon.
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          <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">And
                        hi Chandra:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Why
                        can we not assume that the particles "photons"
                        have a "pilot wave" in the sense of de Broglie
                        around them as similarly have e.g. electrons and
                        neutrons? And those pilot waves follow similar
                        rules like the Maxwell equations?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">AK:
                         If the "pilot wve" itself is not of E&M
                        origin, what is it? How does it work?  [Granted
                        deBroglie himself did not have specific models
                        for his pilot wave; but others have!  For
                        example, see #11 on my web page, <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com">
                          www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">We could also use the understanding of
          present main stream physics: All particles like photons,
          electrons, neutrons are a particle and a wave at the same
          time. If we take the mode as wave in case of the photon we can
          use Maxwell's equations to describe the situation. -  I like
          the pilot wave of de Broglie better as it is perceptible by
          human imagination. In the case of the photon the superposition
          of all pilot waves would in that case fulfil the requirements
          of Maxwell's equations. Something equivalent should happen to
          the superposition of the pilot waves of e.g. electrons and
          neutrons. De Broglie did not specify what the pilot wave is
          made of. He assumed his "waves of harmony" without further
          specification. That sounds a bit mysterious. In the case of
          hadrons those should be waves of the strong force. <br>
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