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<p>Dear Chandra,</p>
<p>thank you for your mail; and I wish you good luck for your
activities. Will be curious what it is.</p>
<p>Sincerely<br>
Albrecht<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.09.2016 um 22:24 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Pardon me for not
replying many of yours, and others, very justified
scientific questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I am in the midst
of “battling” something that is very valuable for all of us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I would be needing
participation from all of you in the near future and I will
explain that to all of you.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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General
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Gravity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 12.09.2016 um 20:34 schrieb <a
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af.kracklauer@web.de</a>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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12. September 2016 um 16:59 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Albrecht Giese" <a
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Gravity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span
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Al:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
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</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">"Photons"
(given anybody's definition) cannot be directly
an object of observation. PEROID.</span><span
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"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">In
this case please explain the corresponding
process in my experiment, i.e. the detection of
photons by pair production where all necessary
physical quantities for an individual photon
have been conserved. The distance between
generation and detection was about 10 m.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">AK:
You didn't see any photons, rather the pair
after the split and infered what happend based
on the taget location and the cite of the 'pair
production' and their subsequent orbits in a
bubble chamber (or equivalent). [If I got the
experiment wrong, please describe the target and
detection apparatus.] BTW, respecting
conservation laws does not require direct
observation of a means of interaction between
source charges and sink charges, (modulo an
uncharged---i.e. unobservable---sink charge). <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the experiment photons have been
generated having a certain energy. 10 meters downstream an
electron-positron-pair was generated representing the same
energy. So, there was some object flying between the
generation point and the detection point which transported
just that energy. And this object did not have any charge.
(Otherwise it would have been deflected away as there was a
strong magnetic field.)<br>
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If it should not have been a photon as you suspect, should we
give this object a different name? Do you propose a name? Then
we could have new physics. Existing physics tells us that it
was a photon.
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<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">And
hi Chandra:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Why
can we not assume that the particles "photons"
have a "pilot wave" in the sense of de Broglie
around them as similarly have e.g. electrons and
neutrons? And those pilot waves follow similar
rules like the Maxwell equations?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">AK:
If the "pilot wve" itself is not of E&M
origin, what is it? How does it work? [Granted
deBroglie himself did not have specific models
for his pilot wave; but others have! For
example, see #11 on my web page, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com">
www.nonloco-physics.0catch.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We could also use the understanding of
present main stream physics: All particles like photons,
electrons, neutrons are a particle and a wave at the same
time. If we take the mode as wave in case of the photon we can
use Maxwell's equations to describe the situation. - I like
the pilot wave of de Broglie better as it is perceptible by
human imagination. In the case of the photon the superposition
of all pilot waves would in that case fulfil the requirements
of Maxwell's equations. Something equivalent should happen to
the superposition of the pilot waves of e.g. electrons and
neutrons. De Broglie did not specify what the pilot wave is
made of. He assumed his "waves of harmony" without further
specification. That sounds a bit mysterious. In the case of
hadrons those should be waves of the strong force. <br>
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