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    <p>Hello Richard,</p>
    <p>that are correct equations which you have listed here for
      Newton's description of mass and its rules. But that does not
      answer the question what the physical mechanism is, which causes
      inertia.</p>
    <p>You may compare the situation with Galileo's law of free fall.
      His law was correct, even today it is accepted. But also this law
      does not give us any information of why an object falls down in a
      gravitational field. That is a similar situation like Newton's law
      of motion. We are asking for the next step.</p>
    <p>As an explanation for the mechanism of inertia I know two
      theories. One is the Higgs model, which is believed by main stream
      but delivers numerical results which are wrong by many orders of
      magnitude. The other one is the mechanism which I have proposed.
      It is not accepted by main stream (but by many colleagues outside
      main stream) and it delivers precise results. In this model the
      mass depends on the radius (only), and in practise the radius can
      be determined classically by the magnetic moment if there is
      electrical charge. <br>
    </p>
    <p>You are saying that the mass is independent of the radius. Here
      please look at the Bohr magneton.  It says (for the electron)</p>
    <p>Magnetic moment =   (e/m) * h(bar)/2. If this magnetic moment is
      classically calculated on the assumption that an elementary 
      charge e is orbiting with speed c (which is necessary for
      dilation), then the magnetic moment depends linearly on the
      radius. So, m must be inversely proportional to the radius; which
      is exactly what my model of mass says. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Albrecht<br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.10.2016 um 05:37 schrieb Richard
      Gauthier:<br>
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      Hello John, Allbrecht and all,
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        <div class="">   As you know, I have a different approach to a
          massive particle's inertial mass. Normal photons don’t have a
          rest mass but they do have an inertial mass  hf/c^2 as I think
          Martin at least would agree based on “Light is Heavy”. When a
          photon model (whether an uncharged photon-like object with
          spin 1 or a charged photon with spin 1/2) curls up to form an
          electron model, the photon model still has inertial mass =
          hf/c^2 which for the electron model is hf/c^2 = Eo/c^2 =
          mc^2/(c^2) = m. The inertial mass m of a resting electron is
          conventionally just called the mass m of the electron. </div>
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        <div class="">  The electron model's inertial mass m is also
          derived from Newton’s 2nd law applied internally to the
          electron model:   F= dp/dt = ma  where  “m” is the circling
          photon-like-object’s inertial mass, “a" is the circling
          photon-like-object's centripetal acceleration a = c^2/ R= w^2
          R  where R is the radius of the photon-like-object’s circular
          loop, and  F=dp/dt  is the time rate of change of the
          photon-like-object's circulating momentum hf/c = Eo/c = mc^2
          /c = mc. Here,  dp/dt = pw = mcw (where w is  the angular
          velocity omega of the circulating photon-like object). </div>
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        <div class="">   Solving this Newton’s 2nd law equation gives
          the circling photon-like-object's inertial mass  m = (dp/dt)/a
          = (mcw) /( w^2 R) = mc/(w R) =(mc)/c = m which, as above, is
          the inertial mass of the circulating photon-like object and
          therefore it is the inertial mass of the particle with mass
          being modeled (in this case the electron model composed of the
          circling photon-like-object.) This derived inertial mass m of
          the circling-photon-like-object electron model is independent
          of the radius R of the circular loop and independent of
          whether the loop is a single or double loop. </div>
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        <div class="">    Richard</div>
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          <div>
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              <div class="">On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Albrecht Giese
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                wrote:</div>
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                  John,</div>
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                  can be answered, and it is not too difficult. Look:</div>
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                  auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
                  0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Photons
                  do not have a rest mass, true. But they are never at
                  rest. The fact that they have no rest mass is an
                  extrapolation from real existing photons which have
                  some energy (and so mass) to (only theoretically
                  assumed) photons without energy.</div>
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                  if the photon would be at rest (and so have m = 0)
                  then it would not transfer any momentum. Not so
                  surprising!<br class="">
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                  is also simple to show that the angular momentum
                  (spin) is a constant independent from the actual
                  energy of the photon. That can be classically deduced.
                  Also this fact is not in conflict with my statement.
                  Do you want to see it calculated?</div>
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                  Albrecht</div>
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                  11.10.2016 um 05:50 schrieb John Williamson:<br
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cite="mid:7DC02B7BFEAA614DA666120C8A0260C9207051FB@CMS08-01.campus.gla.ac.uk"
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                  <div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma;
                    font-size: 10pt;" class="">Dear Albrecht,<br
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                    <br class="">
                    With the greatest respect, this view is far too
                    simple and you are simply wrong.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Proof: photons are (rest) massless and yet they
                    transfer momentum.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Regards, John.<br class="">
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                            class="">From:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
                          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
                          on behalf of Albrecht Giese [<a
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                          <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                          October 10, 2016 8:18 PM<br class="">
                          <b class="">To:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Richard
                          Gauthier; Nature of Light and Particles -
                          General Discussion<br class="">
                          <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                          [General] Proposed photon wave functions<br
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                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">you are right that inertia and
                          momentum are related to each other. The
                          relation is that inertia is the cause of
                          momentum, without inertia in our world there
                          would be no momentum in our world.</div>
                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">Mathematically spoken: momentum
                          = mass * vector_of_motion. The vector_of
                          motion is a vector, so the product "momentum"
                          is a vector. An explanation of momentum needs
                          the explanation of mass as a precondition. Not
                          the other way around.</div>
                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">Inertial mass can in fact be
                          explained if one accepts that an extended
                          object necessarily has inertia. And as the
                          electron has to be extended (in order to have
                          angular momentum and magnetic moment) it has
                          inertial mass just from this reason. And I
                          like to repeat: the assumption that an
                          extended object has inertia is not only an
                          idea but can be deduced quantitatively with
                          precise results without the use of any free
                          parameters which had to be adjusted.<br
                            class="">
                          <br class="">
                          Albrecht<br class="">
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                        <br class="">
                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.10.2016 um
                          03:00 schrieb Richard Gauthier:<br class="">
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                          <div class="">Hello Albrecht, Vivian and all,</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">Albrecht: Of course, if you say
                            that an apple is essentially the same as an
                            orange (despite their different properties)
                            then you can also say that inertial mass is
                            essentially the same as momentum (despite
                            their different properties). But inertial
                            mass is not the same as momentum, and apples
                            are not the same as oranges. Inertial mass
                            is a scalar quantity and momentum is a
                            vector quantity, which is fundamentally
                            different. They also have different physical
                            units.  My point is that inertial mass is
                            NOT the same as momentum although they are
                            related. A linearly moving photon has
                            inertial mass hf/c^2 (while having no rest
                            mass) as well as external momentum hf/c. A
                            resting electron has inertial mass m= Eo/c^2
                            while having no (or minimal) external
                            momentum. In circulating-photon electron
                            models (which your electron model is not),
                            the circulating photon also has inertial
                            mass m=Eo/c^2=hf/c^2 of its circulating
                            photon, and this inertial mass m of a
                            resting electron is called the rest mass m
                            of the electron, or simply the mass m of the
                            electron. </div>
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                          <div class="">Vivian: I think you are agreeing
                            with Albrecht too quickly. Physicists have
                            been trying hard to understand the nature of
                            inertia since Newton failed to. Mach tried
                            and failed. Several modern physicists such
                            as Einstein, Woodward and Haisch et al have
                            also tried unsuccessfully to explain the
                            nature of inertial mass (the fact that the
                            rest energy stored in a mass m is Eo=mc^2 is
                            NOT in itself an explanation for inertial
                            mass). The Higgs Field (as I understand it)
                            also doesn’t explain inertial mass, although
                            it may explain the origin of a particle's
                            invariant mass as is claimed. Anyway, I
                            won’t accept any explanation from you about
                            particles and inertia as long as you
                            continue to insist that the relativistic
                            kinetic energy of a particle is KE = pc =
                            gamma mv c (instead of the well-known
                            experimentally established formula KE =
                            (gamma - 1) mc^2  ) as you claim on p 13 in
                            your article “A proposal for the structure
                            and properties of the electron” (attached).</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">   <span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Richard</div>
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                              <div class="">On Oct 6, 2016, at 2:21 PM,
                                Vivian Robinson <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:viv@etpsemra.com.au"
                                  class="" target="_blank">viv@etpsemra.com.au</a>>
                                wrote:</div>
                              <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                              <div class="">
                                <div class="" style="word-wrap:
                                  break-word;">Richard,
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">I agree with Albrecht.
                                    For a physical relationship between
                                    energy and mass through E + mc^2,
                                    you have seen my paper on it. Energy
                                    is the photon travelling in a
                                    straight line. Mass is the same
                                    photon confined in a circle of
                                    radius equal to half its wavelength.
                                    That relationship is directly E =
                                    mc^2 and it explains many other
                                    properties associated with mass
                                    particles. </div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">Mathematics comes in
                                    many forms, the same as languages.
                                    Not every one is specialised in all
                                    forms of mathematics, anymore than
                                    everyone is specialises in all
                                    languages. Almost all physicists
                                    understand physical descriptions. A
                                    physical description of the process
                                    accompanied by the appropriate
                                    mathematics will go a long way
                                    towards helping others understanding
                                    the message being presented.</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">Cheers,</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">Vivian </div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="">On 07/10/2016, at
                                        7:39 AM, Albrecht Giese <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:genmail@a-giese.de"
                                          class="" target="_blank">genmail@a-giese.de</a>>
                                        wrote:</div>
                                      <br
                                        class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">
                                          <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                            margin-bottom: 0px;"
                                            class="">Richard,</div>
                                          <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                            margin-bottom: 0px;"
                                            class="">you know my
                                            objection. Inertial mass and
                                            momentum are fundamentally
                                            the same physical
                                            phenomenon. Just the result
                                            of a different application.
                                            And so it is no real
                                            explanation to explain mass
                                            by momentum. Because that
                                            means that you explain a
                                            physical phenomenon by the
                                            same physical phenomenon.</div>
                                          <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                            margin-bottom: 0px;"
                                            class="">Albrecht<span
                                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                              class="">
                                          </div>
                                          <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                            margin-bottom: 0px;"
                                            class="">(And you may have a
                                            look at<span
                                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.ag-physics.org/rmass" target="_blank">www.ag-physics.org/rmass</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>)<span
                                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                              class="">
                                          </div>
                                          <br class="">
                                          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                            06.10.2016 um 15:12 schrieb
                                            Richard Gauthier:<br
                                              class="">
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite"
                                            class="">
                                            <div class="">John and
                                              Vivian and others,</div>
                                            <div class="">   Yes,
                                              inertial mass must be
                                              defined by F=ma and
                                              F=dp/dt as Newton defined
                                              it, though he couldn’t
                                              explain what causes it. It
                                              is caused by a particle’s
                                              circling internal
                                              momentum, as I derive in <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.academia.edu/25641654/A_New_Derivation_of_Eo_mc_2_Explains_a_Particles_Inertia"
                                                class="" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/25641654/A_New_Derivation_of_Eo_mc_2_Explains_a_Particles_Inertia</a> ,
                                              which is attached.</div>
                                            <div class="">   <span
                                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Richard</div>
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                                            </div>
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                                            <br class="">
                                            <div class="">
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                                                class="">
                                                <div class="">On Oct 5,
                                                  2016, at 9:49 PM,
                                                  Vivian Robinson <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com" class=""
                                                    target="_blank">viv@universephysics.com</a>>
                                                  wrote:</div>
                                                <br
                                                  class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                                                <div class="">
                                                  <div class=""
                                                    style="word-wrap:
                                                    break-word;">John,
                                                    <div class=""><br
                                                        class="">
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        14px;">Thanks
                                                        for the advice.
                                                        I regularly
                                                        reference
                                                        Einstein's Ann.
                                                        der Phys. 17,
                                                        639-641 (1905)
                                                        paper. By mass I
                                                        have tried to
                                                        think of it as
                                                        inertial mass m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span>,
                                                        given by F = m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span>.a.
                                                        Gravitational
                                                        mass m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">g</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is different by potential energy
                                                        (PE) divided by
                                                        c squared (m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">g</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>= m<span class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- PE/c^2). Rest mass m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">r</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is m<span class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>measured at velocity = 0 with
                                                        respect to m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span>.
                                                        Relativistic
                                                        mass m</span><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        12px;">rel</span><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        14px;"> is the
                                                        mass measured
                                                        at </span><font
                                                        class=""
                                                        size="4">velocity
                                                        v wrt an
                                                        observer.
                                                        Invariant mass
                                                        doesn't exist
                                                        because its
                                                        value depends
                                                        upon its
                                                        position</font><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;"> </span><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;">wrt</span><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;"> an
                                                        observer, </span><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;">gravitational
                                                        field and
                                                        velocity. In
                                                        practice all m<span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          12px;">i</span>,
                                                        m<span class=""
style="font-size: 12px;">g</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and
                                                        m<span class=""
style="font-size: 12px;">r</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>will
                                                        be measured the
                                                        same within
                                                        experimental
                                                        error,
                                                        essentially
                                                        making them
                                                        invariant. </span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;">IMHO,
                                                        you are quite
                                                        correct about
                                                        aspects of the
                                                        standard model.
                                                        There are some
                                                        very serious
                                                        problems.</span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;">Cheers,</span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><span
                                                        class=""
                                                        style="font-size:
                                                        large;">Viv </span></div>
                                                    <div class=""><font
                                                        class=""
                                                        size="4"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </font></div>
                                                    <div class=""><font
                                                        class=""
                                                        size="4"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </font></div>
                                                    <div class=""><font
                                                        class=""
                                                        size="4"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                      </font>
                                                      <div class="">
                                                        <div class="">On
                                                          06/10/2016, at
                                                          4:08 AM, John
                                                          Duffield <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:johnduffield@btconnect.com" class=""
target="_blank">johnduffield@btconnect.com</a>> wrote:</div>
                                                        <br
                                                          class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="">
                                                          <div class=""
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: inherit; font-style: normal;
                                                          font-variant:
                                                          normal;
                                                          font-weight:
                                                          normal;
                                                          letter-spacing:
                                                          normal;
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                                                          normal;
                                                          orphans: 2;
                                                          text-indent:
                                                          0px;
                                                          text-transform:
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                                                          lang="EN-GB">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="WordSection1">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">Viv:</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">Good
                                                          stuff. I
                                                          empathize
                                                          totally.</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">Re
                                                          photons and
                                                          mass, do make
                                                          sure you call
                                                          it<span
                                                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i
                                                          class="">inertial
                                                          mass</i>.
                                                          And/or protect
                                                          yourself with
                                                          a reference to<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/"
                                                          class=""
                                                          target="_blank"
                                                          style="color:
                                                          purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
                                                          underline;"><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(0, 0,
                                                          153);">Einstein’s
                                                          E=mc² paper</span></a>,
                                                          where the last
                                                          line reads
                                                          thus:</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><i
                                                          class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"
                                                          lang="EN">“If
                                                          the theory
                                                          corresponds to
                                                          the facts,
                                                          radiation
                                                          conveys
                                                          inertia
                                                          between the
                                                          emitting and
                                                          absorbing
                                                          bodies”.</span></i><i
                                                          class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"></span></i></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">I
                                                          say this
                                                          because IMHO
                                                          the sort of
                                                          people who
                                                          bang on about
                                                          gluons or the
                                                          8<sup class="">th</sup><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>spatial dimension will use
                                                          anything cast
                                                          aspersions on
                                                          people like
                                                          you.  </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">I’ve
                                                          been doing
                                                          some major
                                                          writing
                                                          recently, and
                                                          in doing so
                                                          I’m getting
                                                          the feeling
                                                          that there’s
                                                          more wrong
                                                          with
                                                          standard-model
                                                          physics than
                                                          people
                                                          appreciate.
                                                          Much more.</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">Regards</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: rgb(0,
                                                          0, 153);">JohnD</span></div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;
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                                                          73, 125);"> </span></div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""
style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt;
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                                                          <div class=""
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"
                                                          lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"
                                                          lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general" target="_blank">mailto:general</a>-<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                                                          class=""
                                                          target="_blank">bounces+johnduffield=btconnect.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b
                                                          class="">On
                                                          Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Vivian Robinson<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>05 October 2016 09:58<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nature of Light and Particles -
                                                          General
                                                          Discussion
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class=""
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                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] Proposed photon wave
                                                          functions</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Rear
                                                          Richard and
                                                          others,</span></div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;"> </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">I
                                                          submitted my
                                                          results to the
                                                          group in the
                                                          hope that it
                                                          would start
                                                          debate on my
                                                          topic. Richard
                                                          I appreciate
                                                          that you have
                                                          taken time to
                                                          make a couple
                                                          of comments. I
                                                          would like to
                                                          add a few
                                                          points to aid
                                                          (I hope)
                                                          further
                                                          discussion.</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">First,
                                                          the so called
                                                          "standard
                                                          models" of
                                                          matter suffer
                                                          from some
                                                          disadvantages,
                                                          not the least
                                                          of which is
                                                          the use of
                                                          invented
                                                          concepts, e.g.
                                                          quarks, gluons
                                                          and strings
                                                          that have
                                                          never been
                                                          separately
                                                          identified.
                                                          String theory
                                                          is one very
                                                          bad example.
                                                          It uses
                                                          several space
                                                          dimensions
                                                          that have
                                                          never been
                                                          detected along
                                                          with particles
                                                          too small to
                                                          be ever
                                                          detected to
                                                          make
                                                          predictions
                                                          that don't
                                                          match
                                                          observation.
                                                          However the
                                                          mathematics is
                                                          sufficiently
                                                          complicated
                                                          that referees
                                                          are prepared
                                                          to accept that
                                                          it may have
                                                          some future.
                                                          That is
                                                          another
                                                          example of
                                                          theoreticians
                                                          being out of
                                                          touch with
                                                          reality. I am
                                                          sure that if
                                                          their funding
                                                          body informed
                                                          them that
                                                          their salary
                                                          has been paid
                                                           in full in a
                                                          combinations
                                                          of strings in
                                                          the 8th
                                                          spatial
                                                          dimension, our
                                                          universe being
                                                          the three
                                                          detectable
                                                          ones  and they
                                                          can collect it
                                                          when they find
                                                          the eighth
                                                          dimension and
                                                          unravel the
                                                          strings, they
                                                          would also be
                                                          the first to
                                                          complain. Yet
                                                          they would
                                                          have us
                                                          believe that
                                                          is the origins
                                                          of the whole
                                                          universe, not
                                                          just their
                                                          salary.</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Quarks
                                                          and gluons are
                                                          another
                                                          example. They
                                                          have never
                                                          been
                                                          separately
                                                          isolated. So
                                                          Quantum
                                                          ChromoDynamics
                                                          (QCD)
                                                          theoreticians
                                                          developed the
                                                          concept that
                                                          the gluon "force"
                                                          between quarks
                                                          increases as
                                                          their
                                                          separation
                                                          distance
                                                          increases.
                                                          Unfortunately
                                                          when
                                                          "satellite"
                                                          nucleons orbit
                                                          a nucleus at a
                                                          "significant
                                                          distance"
                                                          where quark
                                                          separations
                                                          are quite
                                                          large, the
                                                          binding is
                                                          very weak and
                                                          the lifetimes
                                                          of these
                                                          nuclei are
                                                          measures
                                                          immilli
                                                          seconds. As
                                                          some QCD
                                                          practitioners
                                                          will attest,
                                                          QCD
                                                          calculations
                                                          are not good
                                                          at matching
                                                          observation so
                                                          theoreticians
                                                          keep changing
                                                          their model
                                                          until it does.
                                                          They have
                                                          devised 36
                                                          quarks, 2
                                                          types, 3
                                                          generations of
                                                          each type.
                                                          three "colours
                                                          for each
                                                          generation,
                                                          plus their
                                                          anti-particles,
                                                          plus 8 colours
                                                          or flavours of
                                                          gluons, a
                                                          total of 44
                                                          undetected
                                                          particles, and
                                                          they still
                                                          can't get good
                                                          answers. Again
                                                          by making
                                                          their
                                                          mathematics
                                                          complex they
                                                          avoid scrutiny
                                                          by non
                                                          experts. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">The
                                                          point is that
                                                          "standard
                                                          model" physics
                                                          has many
                                                          examples of
                                                          theoreticians
                                                          using non
                                                          detected
                                                          particles or
                                                          entities and
                                                          dimensions, to
                                                          give
                                                          unsatisfactory
                                                          answers to
                                                          some aspects
                                                          of
                                                          experimental
                                                          observation.
                                                          Trying to
                                                          replace those
                                                          with a further
                                                          set of
                                                          hypothetical
                                                          particles, be
                                                          they rotars,
                                                          hods,
                                                          microvita or
                                                          faster than
                                                          light
                                                          (superluminal) particles does
                                                          not make their
                                                          concept any
                                                          better than
                                                          those
                                                          forwarded by
                                                          standard model
                                                          practitioners.
                                                          Being able to
                                                          match a few
                                                          physical
                                                          properties by
                                                          ascribing
                                                          specific
                                                          properties to
                                                          undetected
                                                          hypothetical
                                                          particles is
                                                          no advance if
                                                          all it is
                                                          doing is
                                                          matching a few
                                                          local
                                                          properties. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;"> </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">I am
                                                          forwarding my
                                                          work as
                                                          different. It
                                                          uses known
                                                          properties of
                                                          free space,
                                                          namely its
                                                          electric
                                                          permittivity
                                                          (ep) and
                                                          magnetic
                                                          permeability
                                                          (mp). It
                                                          suggests that
                                                          these
                                                          facilitate the
                                                          passage of
                                                          packets of
                                                          electromagnetic
                                                          energy called
                                                          photons,
                                                          possibly by
                                                          being composed
                                                          of vibrations
                                                          in ep and mp.
                                                          John W and I
                                                          have used
                                                          different
                                                          wording to
                                                          convey the
                                                          idea that
                                                          photons convey
                                                          mass, as was
                                                          proposed by
                                                          Einstein in
                                                          1905. I feel
                                                          sure a
                                                          suitable set
                                                          of words could
                                                          be found to
                                                          describe how
                                                          those photon
                                                          oscillations
                                                          convey that
                                                          mass. I have
                                                          presented four
                                                          wave equations
                                                          that describe
                                                          the
                                                          Einstein-de
                                                          Broglie wave
                                                          function psi,
                                                          along with a
                                                          physical
                                                          representation
                                                          of them. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;"> </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">I
                                                          describe the
                                                          angular
                                                          momentum of
                                                          photons as
                                                          being due to
                                                          the circular
                                                          wave motion of
                                                          the
                                                          electromagnetic
                                                          field in
                                                          circularly
                                                          polarised
                                                          photons. This
                                                          implies that
                                                          plane
                                                          polarised
                                                          photons will
                                                          not have any
                                                          angular
                                                          momentum and
                                                          hence no
                                                          intrinsic
                                                          spin. This is
                                                          able to be
                                                          checked
                                                          experimentally.
                                                          Its rotating
                                                          centre of mass
                                                          only travels
                                                          at sqrt 2 x c
                                                          for a photon
                                                          composed of a
                                                          single
                                                          wavelength. It
                                                          is not a super
                                                          luminal
                                                          velocity. The
                                                          centre of mass
                                                          is a
                                                          mathematical
                                                          point that
                                                          rotates. It is
                                                          not a physical
                                                          rotation of a
                                                          mass traveling
                                                          faster than c.
                                                          The mass of
                                                          the photon is
                                                          traveling at c
                                                          in its
                                                          propagation
                                                          direction. One
                                                          might as well
                                                          say that the
                                                          wave motion of
                                                          the electric
                                                          field is
                                                          superluminal
                                                          because it
                                                          follows a sine
                                                          curve which
                                                          has a length
                                                          longer than
                                                          the straight
                                                          line travel of
                                                          c. That does
                                                          not mean that
                                                          its mass is
                                                          travelling
                                                          faster than c
                                                          and therefore
                                                          all photons
                                                          are
                                                          superluminal. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Mathematical
                                                          points
                                                          traveling at
                                                          faster than c
                                                          is not
                                                          superluminal
                                                          travel. There
                                                          has been an
                                                          often quoted
                                                          example of
                                                          waving a laser
                                                          into space. If
                                                          waved fast
                                                          enough across
                                                          the dark
                                                          surface of the
                                                          new moon, it
                                                          could be
                                                          possible to
                                                          observe the
                                                          laser point
                                                          moving across
                                                          the moon's
                                                          surface at
                                                          faster than c.
                                                          That is a
                                                          mathematical
                                                          point moving
                                                          faster than c.
                                                          It is not
                                                          superluminal
                                                          motion. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">I
                                                          submit that
                                                          making models
                                                          of
                                                          hypothetical
                                                          particles and
                                                          ascribing
                                                          properties to
                                                          them is not
                                                          the same as
                                                          deriving those
                                                          properties
                                                          from
                                                          fundamental
                                                          considerations.
                                                          Others are
                                                          entitled to
                                                          their own
                                                          views.</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">FYI,
                                                          I have been
                                                          working on
                                                          this for three
                                                          decades. I
                                                          decided not to
                                                          publish much
                                                          of my work,
                                                          apart from
                                                          compiling it
                                                          into some
                                                          extended
                                                          manuscripts,
                                                          complete with
                                                          ISBNs, that I
                                                          made available
                                                          to a few
                                                          selected
                                                          friends and
                                                          interested
                                                          parties. My
                                                          career
                                                          experience was
                                                          that reviewers
                                                          and critics
                                                          have a habit
                                                          of raising non
                                                          relevant
                                                          objections,
                                                          bogging
                                                          authors down
                                                          and slowing
                                                          further
                                                          progress. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Chandra,
                                                          is that the
                                                          kind of paper
                                                          you would like
                                                          presented at
                                                          your next SPIE
                                                          conference? It
                                                          will be more
                                                          advanced by
                                                          then. </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Cheers,</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;">Vivian
                                                          Robinson</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;"> </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""><span
                                                          class=""
                                                          style="font-size:
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">On
                                                          29/09/2016, at
                                                          11:25 PM,
                                                          Richard
                                                          Gauthier <<a
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                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div class=""
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                                                          Roman',
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                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class=""
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Hello
                                                          Vivian, Chip
                                                          and others,</div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""
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                                                          derivations of
                                                          the radius
                                                          R=lambda/2pi
                                                          of my
                                                          internally
                                                          superluminal
                                                          photon model
                                                          and the
                                                          corresponding
                                                          45-degree
                                                          forward angle
                                                          of the photon
                                                          model's
                                                          internal
                                                          helical
                                                          trajectory are
                                                          given in
                                                          Section 5,
                                                          equations 8
                                                          through 17 in
                                                          my published
                                                          1996 article
                                                          “Microvita: A
                                                          new approach
                                                          to matter,
                                                          life and
                                                          health”, which
                                                          I attach and
                                                          which is
                                                          available from
                                                          Springer and
                                                          at <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.academia.edu/28777551/Microvita_A_New_Approach_to_Matter_Life_and_Health"
                                                          class=""
                                                          target="_blank"
                                                          style="color:
                                                          purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
                                                          underline;">https://www.academia.edu/28777551/Microvita_A_New_Approach_to_Matter_Life_and_Health</a>.
                                                          My
                                                          internally-double-looping
                                                          model of the
                                                          electron is
                                                          also presented
                                                          quantitatively
                                                          there in
                                                          Section 6. The
                                                          electron model
                                                          there has
                                                          evolved into
                                                          my SPIE
                                                          relativistic
                                                          spin-1/2
                                                          charged-photon
                                                          electron model
                                                          since then. It
                                                          follows
                                                          directly from
                                                          the photon
                                                          model's
                                                          helical angle
                                                          of 45 degrees
                                                          that the
                                                          internal speed
                                                          of the photon
                                                          model is c
                                                          sqrt(2), which
                                                          I state
                                                          explicitly in
                                                          my published
                                                          2007 article
                                                          “FTL quantum
                                                          models of the
                                                          photon and the
                                                          electron”,
                                                          attached below
                                                          and available
                                                          from
                                                          STAIF-2007 and
                                                          at <a
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                                                          </div>
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                                                           Richard</div>
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                                                          <div class=""><Microvita
                                                          A New Approach
                                                          to Matter Life
                                                          and
                                                          Health.pdf></div>
                                                          <div class=""><FTL
                                                          Quantum Models
                                                          of the Photon
                                                          and the
                                                          Electron.pdf></div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class=""
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">On
                                                          Sep 24, 2016,
                                                          at 8:34 AM,
                                                          Richard
                                                          Gauthier <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" class=""
                                                          target="_blank"
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                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Hello
                                                          Vivian,</div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> 
                                                           I’ve gone
                                                          through your
                                                          new article on
                                                          the photon and
                                                          it looks
                                                          interesting. I
                                                          appreciate
                                                          that your
                                                          photon model
                                                          is now
                                                          internally
                                                          superluminal
                                                          with an
                                                          internal
                                                          helical speed
                                                          of c sqrt(2)
                                                          and an
                                                          effective
                                                          radius of
                                                          lambda/2pi.
                                                          Your photon
                                                          model has
                                                          similarities
                                                          to Chip’s
                                                          model of the
                                                          photon in this
                                                          and other
                                                          respects and
                                                          I’m surprised
                                                          that you
                                                          didn’t
                                                          reference his
                                                          work. I would
                                                          be interested
                                                          to see a
                                                          comparison
                                                          between your
                                                          photon model
                                                          and Chip’s.
                                                          I’d also like
                                                          to hear Chip’s
                                                          comments on
                                                          your photon
                                                          model.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> 
                                                             Richard</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class=""
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">On
                                                          Sep 22, 2016,
                                                          at 8:55 PM,
                                                          Vivian
                                                          Robinson <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com" class=""
                                                          target="_blank"
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                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Hodge,</div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">It
                                                          would still be
                                                          best if you
                                                          sent the
                                                          article. I
                                                          (finally)
                                                          accessed some
                                                          of your STOE
                                                          articles but
                                                          could not find
                                                          mse42my.pdf. I
                                                          am not exactly
                                                          sure to what
                                                          you are
                                                          referring.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Some
                                                          aspects of
                                                          your work have
                                                          commonality
                                                          with mine. I
                                                          use detectable
                                                          photons as the
                                                          basis of
                                                          everything,
                                                          you use hods.
                                                          We are both
                                                          trying to show
                                                          that
                                                          everything
                                                          follows from
                                                          that one
                                                          particle. I
                                                          prefer my
                                                          approach
                                                          because
                                                          photons are
                                                          detectable and
                                                          have
                                                          properties to
                                                          which my work
                                                          must comply.
                                                          The wave
                                                          functions in
                                                          my article are
                                                          their
                                                          restriction.
                                                          Like you I
                                                          prefer
                                                          Newtonian
                                                          mechanics to
                                                          relativity and
                                                          quantum
                                                          mechanics.
                                                          There are many
                                                          observations
                                                          that confirm
                                                          relativity and
                                                          quantum
                                                          mechanics that
                                                          don't match
                                                          Newtonian
                                                          mechanics. My
                                                          work must
                                                          match those
                                                          observations. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">I
                                                          have found
                                                          that the
                                                          toroidal (John
                                                          W and Martin
                                                          vdM) or
                                                          rotating
                                                          photon (Viv
                                                           R) model of
                                                          an electron is
                                                          one in which
                                                          an electron
                                                          consists of
                                                          a photon of
                                                          the
                                                          appropriate
                                                          energy (≈
                                                          0.511 MeV at
                                                          rest) makes
                                                          two
                                                          revolutions in
                                                          one
                                                          wavelength. It
                                                          is this that
                                                          gives the
                                                          electron spin
                                                          (angular
                                                          momentum) of
                                                          half hbar. The
                                                          E - mc^2
                                                          relationship
                                                          between mass
                                                          and energy is
                                                          mass is the
                                                          photon
                                                          rotating twice
                                                          within its
                                                          wavelength.
                                                          Unlock its
                                                          angular
                                                          momentum gives
                                                          it energy E =
                                                          mc^2. As the
                                                          particle moves
                                                          its structure
                                                          means that it
                                                          is
                                                          automatically
                                                          subject to the
                                                          special
                                                          relativity
                                                          corrections of
                                                          mass, length
                                                          and time. I
                                                          make mention
                                                          of other
                                                          properties,
                                                          although as
                                                          Richard G
                                                          pointed out,
                                                          my derivation
                                                          of the
                                                          magnetic
                                                          moment of the
                                                          electron was
                                                          in error in
                                                          that paper. I
                                                          have now
                                                          corrected
                                                          that.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">I
                                                          suggest that
                                                          all other
                                                          particles,
                                                          stable or
                                                          otherwise, are
                                                          composed of
                                                          appropriate
                                                          rotating
                                                          photons and
                                                          have derived
                                                          the structure
                                                          and properties
                                                          of many of
                                                          them based
                                                          upon that
                                                          model. If this
                                                          is the
                                                          structure of
                                                          all matter,
                                                          the special
                                                          relativity
                                                          corrections are
                                                          due to the
                                                          rotating
                                                          photon being
                                                          "stretched" as
                                                          it moves.
                                                          They are not
                                                          some
                                                          mathematically
                                                          imposed
                                                          restriction.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">You
                                                          will find that
                                                          when you apply
                                                          Newtonian
                                                          mechanics to a
                                                          photon with
                                                          those
                                                          waveforms and
                                                          mass, you get
                                                          Einstein's
                                                          general theory
                                                          of relativity
                                                          for space
                                                          outside
                                                          matter, ie,
                                                          gravity as we
                                                          know it. The
                                                          exception is
                                                          that there is
                                                          no singularity
                                                          at the
                                                          Schwarzschild
                                                          radius and
                                                          therefore no
                                                          black holes.
                                                          That doesn't
                                                          prevent the
                                                          existence of
                                                          massive
                                                          objects, which
                                                          is all
                                                          astronomers
                                                          are detecting.
                                                          It is the
                                                          theoretical
                                                          physicists who
                                                          call them
                                                          black holes.
                                                          Astronomical
                                                          measurements
                                                          are still
                                                          thousands of
                                                          times less
                                                          accurate than
                                                          required to
                                                          distinguish
                                                          between my
                                                          metric and the
                                                          Schwarzschild
                                                          metric. I am
                                                          confident that
                                                          when they do
                                                          improve, my
                                                          metric, with
                                                          the
                                                          gravitational
                                                          singularity at
                                                          the centre of
                                                          mass and not
                                                          at the
                                                          Schwarzschild
                                                          radius, will
                                                          hold. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">You
                                                          will then
                                                          recognise that
                                                          gravity is not
                                                          inverse square
                                                          law. If you
                                                          studied
                                                          Newton's
                                                          Principia you
                                                          will see that
                                                          he also worked
                                                          out what would
                                                          happen if
                                                          gravity was
                                                          stronger or
                                                          weaker than
                                                          inverse square
                                                          law. His
                                                          observations
                                                          showed that
                                                          the planets
                                                          were following
                                                          the
                                                          trajectories
                                                          predicted by
                                                          the inverse
                                                          square law
                                                          calculations,
                                                          leading to the
                                                          conclusion
                                                          that
                                                          gravity is controlled
                                                          by inverse
                                                          square.
                                                          However, not
                                                          all
                                                          observations
                                                          follow the
                                                          inverse square
                                                          law.
                                                          Conclusion -
                                                          gravity is not
                                                          inverse
                                                          square. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">The
                                                          only reason
                                                          the Big Bang
                                                          theory was
                                                          accepted was
                                                          because early
                                                          calculations
                                                          showed that,
                                                          if gravity was
                                                          inverse square
                                                          law, an
                                                          infinite
                                                          static
                                                          universe would
                                                          collapse in on
                                                          itself through
                                                          gravitational
                                                          attraction.
                                                          That clearly
                                                          hasn't
                                                          happened.
                                                          Einstein tried
                                                          to overcome it
                                                          with his
                                                          cosmological
                                                          constant. His
                                                          field
                                                          equations only
                                                          allowed for an
                                                          expanding or
                                                          collapsing
                                                          universe.
                                                          Since
                                                          forwarding the
                                                          Big Bang
                                                          theory, they
                                                          have done
                                                          everything to
                                                          match a new
                                                          observation
                                                          into that
                                                          theory,
                                                          ignoring the
                                                          other
                                                          possibility.
                                                          If gravity
                                                          isn't inverse
                                                          square, other
                                                          possibilities
                                                          exist. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Again,
                                                          using
                                                          Newtonian
                                                          mechanics to
                                                          the structure
                                                          of the photon
                                                          I propose,
                                                          shows that
                                                          gravity is
                                                          either inverse
                                                          square law or
                                                          stronger for
                                                          space outside
                                                          matter: Or
                                                          inverse square
                                                          law or weaker
                                                          for space
                                                          inside matter,
                                                          something that
                                                          applies to the
                                                          structure of
                                                          the universe
                                                          as a whole. If
                                                          you have a
                                                          universe in
                                                          which gravity
                                                          is weaker than
                                                          the inverse
                                                          square law by
                                                          an amount
                                                          predicted from
                                                          my photon's
                                                          wave function,
                                                          then an
                                                          infinite
                                                          static
                                                          universe will
                                                          not collapse
                                                          under
                                                          gravitational
                                                          influence.
                                                          Photons from
                                                          distant
                                                          galaxies will
                                                          still be
                                                          redshifted, as
                                                          observed.
                                                          Things like
                                                          gravitational
                                                          lensing still
                                                          occur,
                                                          although I am
                                                          not convinced
                                                          that
                                                          everything
                                                          forwarded as
                                                          gravitational
                                                          lensing is
                                                          actually
                                                          gravitational
                                                          lensing. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Forget
                                                          the Big Bang
                                                          theory.
                                                          Therefore no
                                                          inflation
                                                          (straight
                                                          after the Big
                                                          Bang). Dark
                                                          matter is
                                                          required to
                                                          explain the
                                                          more rapid
                                                          rotation of
                                                          galaxies.
                                                          Based upon
                                                          other aspects
                                                          of inverse
                                                          square law,
                                                          galaxies and
                                                          even clusters
                                                          of galaxies
                                                          would be
                                                          expected to
                                                          rotate about
                                                          their centre
                                                          of mass much
                                                          faster than is
                                                          determined
                                                          from gravity
                                                          alone. The
                                                          detected
                                                          components in
                                                          galaxies will
                                                          cause them to
                                                          rotate
                                                          significantly
                                                          faster than
                                                          predicted from
                                                          either
                                                          Newtonian or
                                                          Relativistic
                                                          gravity. That
                                                          statement can
                                                          be justified
                                                          by
                                                          experimental
                                                          evidence
                                                          (courtesy of
                                                          Uncle Sam
                                                          whose work is
                                                          much
                                                          appreciated at
                                                          least by this
                                                          author) beyond
                                                          the mere
                                                          detection of
                                                          more rapidly
                                                          rotating
                                                          galaxies.
                                                          Forget about
                                                          dark matter.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">As
                                                          for dark
                                                          energy, it is
                                                          based upon the
                                                          observation of
                                                          apparently
                                                          anomalous type
                                                          1a supernovae
                                                          (SNe1a)
                                                          intensities.
                                                          In order to
                                                          match the
                                                          observed SNe1a
                                                          intensities to
                                                          my work I need
                                                          our galaxy to
                                                          be in a region
                                                          of space with
                                                          a density of
                                                          about 10^-24
                                                          kg/m^3. This
                                                          is about 1,000
                                                          times the
                                                          density
                                                          required under
                                                          the Big Bang
                                                          theory for the
                                                          universe to
                                                          exist in its
                                                          current form
                                                          some 23.8
                                                          billion years
                                                          after the Big
                                                          Bang. But
                                                          there are many
                                                          problems with
                                                          that figure.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">The
                                                          odds of the
                                                          universe
                                                          having this
                                                          structure 13.8
                                                          billion years
                                                          after the Big
                                                          Bang are about
                                                          1 : 10^60. (I
                                                          doubt that any
                                                          Big Bang
                                                          proponent
                                                          would risk
                                                          his/her money
                                                          when she/he
                                                          had only 1 :
                                                          1000 chance of
                                                          winning. If
                                                          they are, I am
                                                          prepared to
                                                          wager against
                                                          as many as are
                                                          prepared to
                                                          show their
                                                          faith in low
                                                          odds.) Yet
                                                          they expect us
                                                          to believe the
                                                          whole universe
                                                          exists because
                                                          of 1 : 10^60
                                                          odds and we
                                                          are the one
                                                          universe in
                                                          over 10^60
                                                          other
                                                          universes in
                                                          the
                                                          multiverse.
                                                          Talk about
                                                          having lost
                                                          touch with
                                                          reality.
                                                          Another
                                                          feature is
                                                          that a "quick"
                                                          (i.e., long
                                                          and involved)
                                                          calculation
                                                          will show that
                                                          the density of
                                                          the visible
                                                          universe is
                                                          higher than ≈
                                                          10^-27 kg/m^3.
                                                          Thirdly, for
                                                          an expanding
                                                          universe in
                                                          which there is
                                                          only light
                                                          from up to
                                                          13.8 billion
                                                          light years
                                                          distance,
                                                          there are far
                                                          too many stars
                                                          visible in the
                                                          Hubble Extreme
                                                          field images
                                                          (again, thanks
                                                          Uncle Sam). I
                                                          am sure some
                                                          of you can
                                                          think of other
                                                          observations
                                                          as well.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Going
                                                          back to dark
                                                          energy. In
                                                          order to match
                                                          the observed
                                                          SNe1a
                                                          intensities,
                                                          my model
                                                          requires a
                                                          local (<
                                                          10^8 LYs
                                                          radius)
                                                          density of
                                                          just over 1 x
                                                          10^-24 kg/m^3,
                                                          dropping down
                                                          to a
                                                          background
                                                          average of ≈ 8
                                                          x 10^-26
                                                          kg/m^3. Or
                                                          another effect
                                                          I haven't yet
                                                          included. Both
                                                          of these
                                                          figures are
                                                          much higher
                                                          than the
                                                          "official"
                                                          (i.e. matches
                                                          their theory)
                                                          value of ≈
                                                          10^-27 kg/m^3.
                                                          A brief look
                                                          at the stars
                                                          in our local
                                                          region, ≈ 10^6
                                                          LYs radius,
                                                          gives the
                                                          number of sun
                                                          mass stars, ≈
                                                          200 x 10^9 for
                                                          Milky Way, ≈
                                                          300 x 10^9
                                                          Andromeda, and
                                                          others, gives
                                                          a star mass
                                                          density
                                                          approaching
                                                          10^-25 kg/m^3.
                                                          Here is where
                                                          astronomers
                                                          are a little
                                                          vague. The
                                                          mass of
                                                          galaxies is
                                                          usually quoted
                                                          in terms of
                                                          number of
                                                          stars of the
                                                          same mass as
                                                          our sun
                                                          (luminous
                                                          matter). They
                                                          also add to
                                                          that figure,
                                                          the
                                                          observation
                                                          that the
                                                          average galaxy
                                                          has about ten
                                                          times as much
                                                          matter in a
                                                          gas and dust
                                                          cloud
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the galaxy
                                                          (non luminous
                                                          matter) as
                                                          there is
                                                          luminous
                                                          matter. Adding
                                                          the mass of
                                                          the non
                                                          luminous
                                                          matter to the
                                                          mass of the
                                                          luminous
                                                          matter, if it
                                                          isn't already
                                                          included, gets
                                                          me close to
                                                          10^-24 kg/m^3.
                                                          I admit I am
                                                          not quite
                                                          there. I am
                                                          not out by as
                                                          much as a
                                                          factor of 24
                                                          times the
                                                          observed mass
                                                          of the
                                                          universe and
                                                          that is
                                                          without dark
                                                          matter to make
                                                          the galaxies
                                                          rotate faster
                                                          than they
                                                          should under
                                                          gravity alone.</div>
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">There
                                                          are many other
                                                          problems
                                                          associated
                                                          with the Big
                                                          Bang theory.
                                                          Just think
                                                          about the
                                                          additional
                                                          mass a galaxy
                                                          must have to a
                                                          receding
                                                          velocity that
                                                          gives a
                                                          redshift of
                                                          10. Perhaps
                                                          you know a few
                                                          more of them. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">In
                                                          summary, I
                                                          believe the
                                                          photon model
                                                          just forwarded
                                                          can be used
                                                          with the
                                                          rotating
                                                          photon or
                                                          toroidal
                                                          electromagnetic
                                                          field
                                                          structure of
                                                          matter
                                                          and Newtonian
                                                          mechanics give
                                                          a continuity
                                                          between
                                                          quantum
                                                          "weirdness"
                                                          and special
                                                          and general
                                                          relativity.
                                                          Much of what
                                                          is called
                                                          quantum
                                                          "weirdness"
                                                          can be
                                                          explained by
                                                          the structures
                                                          of the photon
                                                          and the
                                                          particles
                                                          composed of
                                                          rotating or
                                                          toroidal
                                                          photons. Yes
                                                          they need
                                                          refinement,
                                                          but we have to
                                                          start
                                                          somewhere. As
                                                          I said, the
                                                          object of my
                                                          communication
                                                          was to have a
                                                          general
                                                          discussion on
                                                          the nature of
                                                          light and
                                                          particles. </div>
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">I
                                                          append my
                                                          paper on the
                                                          electron
                                                          structure
                                                          FYI. </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">Regards,</div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div class="">Vivian
                                                          Robinson</div>
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                                                          <div class=""><Proposed
                                                          electron
                                                          structure.pdf></div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          <div class="">On
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