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<div>Bravo Chandra!</div>
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<div>Your hv 'plucking' the ether field (you call it CTF I call it the node array) is how I see it too - like a sitar note reverberating all around! Starting from its being a point upon exiting the atom, the packet spreads like an energy pattern in the nodes,
but the nodes themselves remain in place. That is why I did not engage with the esteemed discussions here to quantify and describe photon-electron relations based on a point photon moving in space. </div>
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<div>My qualitative model needs a lot of work (inserting the necessary equations for one!) and due to age and health I have very limited prospects of developing it alone, but I feel it may answer a lot of questions.</div>
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<div>My Beautiful Universe model</div>
<div>is a cellular-automata (CA) type array where one single building block creates everything, energy, matter, and space itself. </div>
<div><a href="http://vladimirtamari.com/beautiful_univ_rev_oct_2011.pdf">http://vladimirtamari.com/beautiful_univ_rev_oct_2011.pdf</a></div>
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<div>Recently Nobel prize-winner Gerard 't Hooft is advocating the view that Quantum Mechanics can emerge from CA. My limited understanding is that he implies that the building blocks are Planck-sized black holes. He says he is very frustrated that his peers
are ignoring this work so please join the discussion here:</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/project/1-Wrapping-up-the-proofs-for-my-book-on-The-Cellular-Automaton-Interpretation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-2-The-pure-state-theory-for-black-holes-using-antipodal-identification">https://www.researchgate.net/project/1-Wrapping-up-the-proofs-for-my-book-on-The-Cellular-Automaton-Interpretation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-2-The-pure-state-theory-for-black-holes-using-antipodal-identification</a></div>
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<div>Cheers and good luck all</div>
<div>Vladimir</div>
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On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra <<a href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Grahame: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">You would not like my opinion! And, I may change my opinion as I grow up learning from others!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As of now, my personal views are very very different from the mainstream assertions about, “indivisible photon”, its “momentum”, “spin” etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">To me, they are not intrinsic property of EM waves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">They appear as measurable properties of detecting materials as they interact (respond) to the incident EM wave packets and undergo various physical changes while absorbing energy out of the propagating EM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For example, at the instant of emission, we certainly have a discrete quantity of energy (hv) that is released as a result of some quantum transition. That released energy “plucks” the Complex Tension Field
(CTF) [or, the plenum , the ether, etc.]. The result of that “plucking” is the emergence of an EM wave packet with the frequency “v”; which then propagates away perpetually as an excitation of the CTF as long as far as the CTF exists.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“Filtered” polarized light, interaction with<b><i> anisotropic
</i></b>material medium will show preferential directional movement implying “angular momentum transfer”, which we have learned to explain as “photon” having “Angular Momentum”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr Grahame Blackwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <<a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [General] On photon momentum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">[Notably Chandra & Chip],</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">I'm having a bit of a problem over this question of: 'How does a photon carry momentum'? (or similar words.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">It seems to me that in order to even beginning to address this question, one needs a clear definition of 'momentum' that's applicable to the momentum carried by a
photon.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">I may be looking in the wrong places (if so please advise), but the only definitions of momentum that I can find either refer to 'mass' or refer to some other phenomenon
which in turn refers to momentum - i.e. circular references.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">If I'm going to figure, or be persuaded, how a photon carries momentum I first need to know what momentum IS in respect of a photon (yes, I know it's E/c, that's a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Of course I'm aware of the paper "Light is heavy", but I don't feel it's appropriate just to extract from that some sort of mass-equivalence of a photon. If we do,
we get the result that 'm'=E/c^2, so 'm'c = E/c - gives the right result, but appears to be some sort of convoluted self-confirmation (i.e. a circular argument dressed up in fancy clothes). It certainly doesn't DEFINE a photon's momentum, just evaluates it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Does anyone have a convincing definition of momentum that's applicable to a photon? One that can be used as a firm basis for theorising?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">(I'd be glad if colleagues didn't use this as an excuse to yet again present their own personal theory/model - I'm looking for a definition that would be agreed by
all, or at least most, physicists.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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