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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="left">I agree
with Al - we must be very careful to identify what we actually
experience from the theoretical inferences derived from those
experiences. This is not only true of the photo-electric effect
but all leaps of faith made when we do not properly take into
account the physics of the observing instrument. My paper "<b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">Photons as
Observer
Transitions in the Event Oriented World View" </span></b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">SPIE 2015
provides an example of how such leaps of faith may have
happened.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="left"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">Al would you
please explain how " </span></span>the universe of background
charges (Olber-like) causes QM effects"</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="left">Thanks</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="left">wolf<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2017 8:01 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</a> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Hodge et al.:</div>
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<div>The implicit assumptions behind some of your statements
here seem to be based on currenty dogma. To get at least
the points I have been trying to make, start over from the
fact that all ostensible observations of E&M "fields"
are actually observations of impunged fields on photo
electrons, which can be counted (mostly after an avalanche
...). The parcelization of the electron is the source of
the impression that the cause of its motion is parcelized.
This is a leap of logic. In fact, per orthodox theory,
every electron is always bathed in the interaction (field if
you like) of all ether charges in the universe at all times
(- to + inf.) because there is no off-on switch to Gauss's
Law (1/r˛). The total effect of the universe of background
charges (Olber-like) causes QM effects while the near
charges have indiviually observable effects described by
(mostly) classical E&M theory.</div>
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<div>BTW, the word conglomeate "the diffraction of one
photon" makes no sense, even in orthodox Q&M, as all
that can be observed is actually just one photo-electron. To
see the diffraction pattern requires an ensemble of many
such observations so as to see the distribution of single
photo-electon responces. Attribution of ensemble
distribution characteristics to single entities is again an
unsupported leap of logic.</div>
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<div>Best, Al</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag,
04. Februar 2017 um 00:33 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Hodge John" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jchodge@frontier.com"><jchodge@frontier.com></a><br>
<b>An:</b> "Nature of Light and Particles - General
Discussion"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org></a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [General] Photon Structure</div>
<div name="quoted-content">Hi Al, Chip, Albrecht, Andrew,
and John D.<br>
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the diffraction experiment with low intensity (one
photon in the experiment at a time) produces a
diffraction pattern. The pattern characteristics such as
the spacing of the minima depends on the photon's
energy. that is it depends on the photon. in the
experiment say between the mask and screen. So it cannot
be from all other photons in the universe.<br>
Problem, how does the wave / alternations effect the
photon. I suggest reflection from matter (mask and
screen).<br>
Electric charges are reflected from surfaces (see books
o antenna theory). So, it is plausable that such a model
could satisfy my photon diffraction experiment. Slight
changes in my equations would probably yield the same
solution. I chose the gravity wave model to unite it
with GR, to allow spin=1, and to yield the polarization
of photons in magnetic fields.<br>
Hodge<br>
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On Fri, 2/3/17, John Macken <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@macken.com"><john@macken.com></a>
wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [General] Photon Structure<br>
To: "'Nature of Light and Particles - General
Discussion'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"><general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a><br>
Date: Friday, February 3, 2017, 3:30 PM<br>
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