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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Wolf et al,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>You will note that my proposal re
gravity in my recently-circulated paper, as the 'extended being' of spatially
distributed entities that we (with our limited senses) perceive as localised
'particles', implicitly proposes that the 'propagation speed of gravity' is in
fact infinite - since there is in actuality NO propagation involved, the
'effects of gravity' are in fact the consequences of those distributed entities
ALREADY being present to some degree at every point in the cosmos. I.e.
'everything is everywhere', to put it in simple terms; as a 'physical massive
object' moves (again, a simplistic term), the WHOLE of its extended being moves
with it and is immediately in a position to manifest 'gravitational' effects of
that object consistent with its changed position, no matter how far spatially
removed (more simplistic concepts!) from what we perceive as the 'massive
object' itself.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>This points to a far deeper truth -
that 'locality' and 'time' are both over-simplifications of deeper concepts,
foisted on us by an evolutionary process that's more interested that we (a)
breed, (b) find lunch and (c) don't become lunch - than it is in us fathoming
the underlying principles of cosmic structure.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2 face=Arial>Grahame</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wolf@nascentinc.com href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com">Wolfgang
Baer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=af.kracklauer@web.de
href="mailto:af.kracklauer@web.de">af.kracklauer@web.de</A> ; <A
title=phys@a-giese.de href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</A> ; <A
title=general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists..natureoflightandparticles.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 28, 2017 11:11
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [General] HA: Gravity</DIV>
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<P>Al:</P>
<P>I'm too concerned with gravity and charge as the fundamental
characteristics of mater in classic physics to appreciate deeper explanations
until the discrepancies or simpler questions have been answered.</P>
<P>Is not Einstein's connection between gravity and space time based on the
use of EM wave phase measurements that define space time? In other words
masses interact with charges and EM propagation so that the definition of a
meter and a second with which we measure space and time are the cause of the
warping.</P>
<P>Even more important for me right now is the question of the speed of
gravity. I now had more of a chance to read Jefimenko's Gravitation and
Cogravitation which Al recommended, where he expands on the idea that
the equations correcting Newton's look more like EM with a gravitational
scalar and vector potential and a Lorenz like force replacing newtons.
In his chapter 20 he points out that the 43 seconds of arc precession of
Mercury rather than being a proof of Einstein's theory is actually a cause for
questioning the validity of Einstein's equations, Because Gerber's
formula for the 43secnds was based upon planetary calculations based upon
Newton's Action at a distance i.e. gravity goes the speed of infinity.
Jefimenko points out that if Newton's theory was wrong and gravity is not
instantaneous than if Einstein's theory explaning somthing wrong (the 43sec
precession) is wrong and Einstein's theory coming up with 43 seconds actually
proves Einstein's theory is wrong. Jefimenko calculates the value of the
precession from his theory is 14 arc sec. <BR></P>
<P>If gravity propagates instantly we are talking about a completely
different beast than Einstein's theory, and trying to explain an error that is
assumed correct just leads to more errors although the errors may be self
consistent.</P>
<P>Wolf</P>
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