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    <p>Hello Eric,</p>
    <p>about my experiment: It was Proton Compton scattering to check
      the Optical Theorem for very small angles of deflection. <br>
    </p>
    <p>As original source we used an electron beam with electrons of
      constant energy 6 GeV. The electrons were converted into photons
      by bremsstrahlung. The result was an energy spectrum from zero to
      6 GeV. The maximum of intensity was at 6 GeV, above that was a
      sharp cut-off. <br>
    </p>
    <p>The photons were deflected by protons (i.e. liquid hydrogen) by
      very small angles, i.e. the detector was placed so that only
      photons under small angles caused a measurement trigger. As a
      detector
      a piece of aluminium was used in which the photons were converted
      into electron-positron pairs. The electrons and positrons were
      deflected in a magnet and the direction by which these particles
      left the magnetic field was measured by a telescope of spark
      chambers. From the direction of the particles the energy and the
      momentum of each particle was calculated and so the energy of the
      photon which caused the pair production. The result was the same
      spectrum with the sharp cut-off at 6 GeV.</p>
    <p>For the determination of the photon energy which is the point of
      our discussion here the sharp edge of the spectrum at 6 GeV is
      essential. This edge is known as a property of the bremsstrahlung
      spectrum and it is found in the sum energy of the electron and
      positron pair.</p>
    <p>Do you want more details about this experiment? Please ask.</p>
    <p>And which were your experiments about light?</p>
    <p>Best<br>
      Albrecht</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 25.05.2017 um 05:31 schrieb Eric
      Reiter:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:1204671015.889194.1495683087843@mail.yahoo.com"
      type="cite">
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              font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Hello Albrecht:</span></div>
          <div><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family:
              "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
              font-size: 13px;">I would like to see the details of your
              experiment:</span></div>
          <div><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family:
              "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><font
                size="1">"We have discussed this topic earlier here and
                I have referred to my PhD experiment. In that experiment
                we have used electrons of a well defined energy to
                convert them into photons."</font></span></div>
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              "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><font
                size="1">I did original experiments explaining light and
                charge also.</font></span></div>
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              font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif;">Thank you</span></div>
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              "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><font
                size="1">Eric Reiter</font></span></div>
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                size="1">____________________________________________________________________</font></span></div>
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          <div>On Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 12:02:03 PM PDT, Albrecht
            Giese <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de"><phys@a-giese.de></a>
            wrote:</div>
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                <p>Hi Wolf,<br>
                </p>
                <br>
                <div class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655moz-cite-prefix">Am
                  22.05.2017 um 06:11 schrieb Wolfgang Baer:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p>I completely agree with Chandra EM waves are
                    quantized during interaction with matter and then we
                    project the quantized material state changes back
                    into the waves as a mathematical convenience</p>
                </blockquote>
                We have discussed this topic earlier here and I have
                referred to my PhD experiment. In that experiment we
                have used electrons of a well defined energy to convert
                them into photons. The photons were after a flight of
                several meters in the air detected by pair building in a
                thin layer of copper. The energy of the pair was
                measured, and the measurement showed the energy of the
                original electron. So, how can we understand this result
                if it is not the photon which carries exactly this
                energy and which is quantized with this energy?
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p>to answer some of Albrecht's comments on my 5,15,17
                    comment; I'm introducing some new ideas in order to
                    include the mind in physical theory. Treated
                    individually one can reject them because anything
                    new can be rejected when one assumes the old is
                    correct. So have patience.</p>
                  <p>1) "That means a force between charge and mass?"
                    yes it means what it says. Mass and charge are 
                    assumed to be properties of particles. Particles
                    have been assumed to be points and so mass and
                    charge are located at points. I believe this is
                    wrong. Mass and charge should be given separate
                    degrees of freedom and the force between them is not
                    infinite.</p>
                </blockquote>
                The force is indeed not infinite, on the contrary, there
                cannot be a force at all. If we look at the forces of
                charges, it is obvious (in the mind of physicists) that
                a charge can only interact with a charge of the same
                type. So the electrical charge and the charge of the
                strong force will by common understanding not react in
                any way. And if now mass is understood as some type of a
                charge (which is, however, not the understanding of
                present physics) then there should not be any force
                between e.g. an electric charge and a mass. <br>
                <br>
                If we look deeper into what mass is by present
                understanding, then charges may influence the dynamical
                process which we call "inertia". But that is in that
                case a  complicated logical connection.
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p> 2)"The question here is again: what is more
                    fundamental, action or force?"  The rest of your 
                    comments are simply addressing an incomplete
                    presentation of my theory. However I consider
                    dynamics or simply change to be fundamental. Reality
                    is action in a form. Action is the material of
                    change. Form is the state in which it is manifest.
                    Action is fundamental  , Energy is the rate of
                    action happening, force is the experience of all
                    finite particles in a non homogeneous action flow
                    who all want to experience more action. I think it
                    is best to defer this discussion to either
                    metaphysics or when I have complete presentation
                    ready.</p>
                </blockquote>
                Yes, then we should better wait. -  But up to now I
                still follow this argument that action is something
                which  the human brain needs to structure the world so
                that it fits into our brains. Particles which react to
                each other do not have this need. They react to a force,
                and the force and also the reaction to it can be
                infinitesimal. An action is (by my understanding)
                something which happens or does not happen. I do not see
                infinitesimal single steps which each can be understood
                as an action. So, this is my argument that action is a
                typical case of "human understanding".
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p>SRT:</p>
                  <p>"First: this whole process has absolutely nothing
                    to do with gravity. Why do you connect it to
                    gravity?" Because I have seen the twin paradox
                    explained by including gravity in text books. clocks
                    slow down because of velocity but speed up because
                    of acceleration the two cancel when two twins are
                    accelerated with constant acceleration for the first
                    quarter of the trip, the ship turned around
                    decelerated for the second quarter and continued to
                    be accelerated toward  the start point, during the
                    third quarter and then rocket reverses for the third
                    quarter and come to rest rest at the origin where
                    the second twin has been waiting at rest. Now both
                    twins will agree on the amount of time passing. The
                    paradox is said to be resolved because Einstein's
                    Srt is expanded to GRT and gravity is introduced.<br>
                  </p>
                </blockquote>
                Can you please give me a reference to a text book which
                connects the twin paradox to gravity? I never heard
                about such an idea; and the discussion about ageing
                refers to the time dilation in SRT. You can perform this
                twin paradox in an environment where no gravitational
                sources are around, and it would work as usually
                described.<br>
                <br>
                According to SRT clocks slow down because of velocity.
                The degree of slow-down is related to the speed of the
                clocks and to nothing else. Acceleration or deceleration
                have no influence to the behaviour of clock. This
                statement you will find uniformly in all textbooks. <br>
                <br>
                Then you write: "... and then rocket reverses for the
                third quarter and come to rest rest at the origin where
                the second twin has been waiting at rest." Now I am
                confused. I have understood that both twins move and
                change their motion at exactly the same times. How can
                it then happen that on twin is at rest and expects the
                other one? <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>"And second: the whole process as you describe it
                    is completely symmetrical. Both twins make the same
                    experience with time and with there according
                    ageing. Where the hell do you see a paradox?" The
                    paradox is that both twins see the other moving at a
                    constant velocity for an arbitrarily long period of
                    time</p>
                </blockquote>
                why for an arbitrarily long period of time? It is only
                for the time until the other twin changes his speed.
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p> and each one would according to SRT calculate the
                    other twin has aged relative to himself. both cannot
                    be right. by making the acceleration period small
                    and symmetric the coast period large i eliminate the
                    gravity explanation but retain an arbitrarily long
                    constant velocity. SO SRT HAS A PARADOX AND IT
                    CANNOT BE RESOLVED IN GRT.<br>
                  </p>
                </blockquote>
                Perhaps I understand now where you see the paradox.
                Assume the following case which is sometimes discussed.
                There are two observers, A and B, and both have clocks
                with them. We assume that both observers move with
                respect to each other. Then observer A will find that
                the clock of observer B runs more slowly. But as both
                observers are physically equivalent also observer B will
                find that the clock of observer A runs more slowly. <br>
                <br>
                This sounds like a paradox or even like a logical
                conflict. But it is not. To see why not we have to have
                a closer look on how clock speeds (or the time in
                different frames) are compared. It is not as simple as
                it looks like. <br>
                <br>
                If the observer A will compare his clock run with the
                one of observer B, he will e.g. place two of his clocks,
                which we will call clock 1 and clock 2 (and which he has
                of course synchronized) along the path of observer B.
                Then he will compare the clock of observer B with his
                clock 1 and then with clock 2 in the moment when the
                observer B passes these clocks. The result will be that
                the clock of observer B have run more slowly. <br>
                <br>
                But how now the other way around? The observer B can of
                course compare his clock with both clocks of observer A
                when he passes these clocks. But now a difference: Both
                clocks of observer A have been synchronized in the frame
                of A. But in the frame of B they will not be
                synchronized (a fundamental fact in SRT). From the view
                of observer B the clock 1 of observer A will be retarded
                with respect to the clock 2. So, the observer B can
                reproduce the observation of observer A in the way that
                observer A sees the clock of B slowed down. But observer
                B will use a different method to determine the speed of
                the clocks of observer A. Observe B will also position
                two clocks along the path which observer A follows in
                frame B and he will synchronize these clocks in <i><b>his</b></i>
                frame B. And with his clocks he will find that the
                clocks of A run slower compared to his own ones.<br>
                <br>
                This different clock synchronization follows from the
                time-related part of the Lorentz transformation:<br>
                <br>
                      t = gamma*(t'-vx/c<sup>2</sup>) with gamma =
                sqrt(1/(1 - v<sup>2</sup>/c<sup>2</sup>)). Regarding the
                example above v is the speed between the frames of A and
                of B.<br>
                <br>
                Is this understandable? (I have presented it in Porto
                Novo when I talked about the problem of de Broglie with
                SRT.) If not clear, please ask further questions I and
                shall go into more details.<br>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p> </p>
                  <p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><b>do my Emails
                        show up</b></span></p>
                  <p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><b>I CC'd you and
                        you should get this directly and in <a
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                          target="_blank">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a></b></span><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Let me know if you get them</p>
                </blockquote>
                I have received your mail once. But last time also
                Chandra and Adrew have answered. So the general
                distribution seems to work<br>
                <br>
                Albrecht<br>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p>Wolf<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <pre class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655moz-signature">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
                  <div class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655moz-cite-prefix">On
                    5/20/2017 12:19 PM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655WordSection1">
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText"><span>Hi
                          Andrew W.: </span></p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText"><span>Yes,
                          I basically agree with you that STR is not a
                          theory of physics. It is smart mathematics
                          only.</span></p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText"><span>Whereas,
                          photoelectric equation is physics, even
                          though, quantization is postulated wrongly on
                          EM waves, rather than on quantum mechanically
                          bound electrons!</span></p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText"><span>Chandra.</span></p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText"><span>==================================</span></p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">-----Original
                        Message-----<br>
                        From: General [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        On Behalf Of ANDREW WORSLEY<br>
                        Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:24 AM<br>
                        To: Nature of Light and Particles - General
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                        Wolfgang Baer <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        Subject: Re: [General] HA: Gravity</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Hi
                        all</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">STR
                        is a complex subject - all observers are equal -
                        but then implies reciprocity, that's the bit
                        that's flawed actually</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">========================================</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Message
                        Received: May 18 2017, 08:34 PM</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">From:
                        "Albrecht Giese" </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">To:
                        "Wolfgang Baer" , "Nature of Light and Particles
                        - General Discussion" </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Cc:
                      </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Subject:
                        Re: [General] HA: Gravity</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Hi
                        Wolf,</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">again
                        comments in the text.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Am
                        15.05.2017 um 02:01 schrieb Wolfgang Baer:</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        No Kc is the spring constant of the force
                        holding charge and mass </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        together</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">That
                        means a force between charge and mass? To my
                        understanding mass and charge are completely
                        different categories as a wrote last time.
                        Charge is a permanent property of some object,
                        whereas mass is a dynamical process which also
                        changes when the object changes its motion state
                        (which at the end is : relativity).</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        In order to build a framework of a physical
                        theory that properly </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        includes the observer as a measurement model
                        building and acting </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        component I use a very simplified concept built
                        on the classic </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        metaphysical ideas that mass,charge, space, time
                        along with the forces </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        between them are fundamental. Here are some of
                        the differences between </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        my cognitive action theory CAT and classic
                        physics</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Just
                        a question at this point: to which set of
                        "metaphysical ideas" do you refer? If we refer
                        to main stream physics, at least mass is a
                        different category. And also time and space are
                        most probably different categories from the
                        others, at least for some of the physical
                        community.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        * Summary of Action Theory additions to Classic
                        Physical Concepts*</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        The examples provided in this section are
                        intended to show how action </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        theory is applied to well known and observable
                        situations that can be </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        compared with analysis using classical physics
                        concepts. What CAT has </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        added is summarized as follows:</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -Change involving transitions between states is
                        where physics is </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        happening.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -Change, visualized as stable action patterns,
                        propagates through </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        material media.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -The degrees of freedom of classical systems has
                        been doubled by </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        separating mass and charge.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -Internal material forces between mass and
                        charge are introduced as </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        heuristic visualizations to augment
                        understanding of the interior of </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        matter which is conventionally the domain of
                        quantum theory (see </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        chapter 6)</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -Mach’s principle and the connection between the
                        inertial field is </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        introduced in place of the observational pseudo
                        forces such as the </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        centrifugal force and “m∙a” in Newton’s
                        formulation. (See Appendix on </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        Mach’s Principle)</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        -Time is defined as the name of the state of the
                        system adopted as a </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        clock, and time intervals are measured as action
                        required to change a </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        state separated by a constant state distance.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        Action theory is being developed as the physical
                        underpinnings of an </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        event oriented world view and a description of
                        reality which includes </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        both the subjective and objective aspect of
                        reality described by CAT.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">The
                        question here is again: what is more
                        fundamental, action or force? </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">In
                        the reductionist's world the fundamental
                        processes are very simple but go on in a huge
                        number. So, it is a tendency, or a good strategy
                        of our brains to build categories. For instance,
                        there are billions of trees on our earth. No
                        brain of a human being is able to register and
                        to remember all these trees. So, our brain build
                        the category "tree". </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">That
                        is helpful. But the cells in the trees have no
                        logical connection to the category-building,
                        they follow fundamental rules.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">In
                        an analogue way, there is a force between
                        charges (else not!). If objects move which have
                        charges the forces will cause that the motion of
                        the objects is influenced, the path changes
                        accordingly. That is fundamental. A human brain
                        can now build the category of an "action" to
                        describe, or better: to categories this process.
                        This brain-related process is in my view a less
                        fundamental view to the world, even though a
                        helpful one.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">But
                        again: mass and charge are not the same
                        category. It is true that there would be no
                        inertia if there would not be charges in the
                        world. </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">But
                        taken in this was, mass is a consequence of
                        charges (and a dynamical consequence). So one
                        could say: a consequence on a higher level.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">And
                        for "time" I agree that this is a structural way
                        of humans to categorize motion. "Space" may be a
                        structural way to treat the effect of charges.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        *Twin Paradox:*</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        You mentioned the twin paradox is explained by
                        the Lorenz </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        transformation since t'=t/sqrt(1-v*v/c*c) which
                        describes time dilation</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        How do you avoid the paradox in the following
                        experiment</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        Two twins are accelerated with a small short
                        pulse in opposite directions.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        At some very long time they are both reversed
                        with a double pulse</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        when they meet they are stopped by a short
                        pulse.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        The experiment is completely symmetric. both
                        twins experience the same </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        acceleration pulse so gravity clock effects are
                        equal and can be </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        eliminated from a comparison but not eliminated
                        is the arbitrarily </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        long period where they are traveling with a
                        velocity relative to each </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        other. Since the time dilation formula only
                        contains</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        velocity squared the direction of relative
                        travel does not make a </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        difference. If the theory is correct there is a
                        paradox and gravity </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        cannot explain it.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">First:
                        this whole process has absolutely nothing to do
                        with gravity. Why </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">do
                        you connect it to gravity?</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">And
                        second: the whole process as you describe it is
                        completely </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">symmetrical.
                        Both twins make the same experience with time
                        and with </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">there
                        according ageing. Where the hell do you see a
                        paradox? I cannot </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">see
                        a paradox and the whole thing is as simple as it
                        can be.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        *do my Emails show up in the general discussion
                        I keep only getting </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        replies from people who send them directly and
                        my E-mails do not show </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        up in the discussion forum, so I'm wondering?*</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">To
                        test it, you may sent this mail again without my
                        address in the list; </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">then
                        I can tell you (if informed) if I got it.</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        Best,</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                        wolf</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">>
                         </p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Best</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">Albrecht</p>
                      <p class="ydp599d92d6yiv2188358655MsoPlainText">  </p>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
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