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<p>Graham;</p>
<p>I think you are saying someting that I have been trying to make
clear to Albrecht which derives from my attempt to move physics
away from the Aristotelian beleif that we see reality through the
windows of our senses and employ the Platonic belief that we see
the 'shadows" - in modern the measurement we see our
interpretation of the measurement reports from our sensors - in
this case our body built in coordinate frame. I then translate
your statements into more anthropomorphic observer inclusive
language<br>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">observer in a moving
frame would be led to believe from observation that their frame
is static</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="#000080">a consciousness inside a
moving body would </font><font face="Arial" color="#000080">
form his perceptive experience </font><font face="Arial"
color="#000080">believe he is stationary in that body</font><font
face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2"><br>
</font></p>
<p><br>
<font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2"> </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">(a) time dilation and
(b) length contraction </font><font face="Arial"
color="#000080" size="2">in the absolutely static frame</font><br>
<font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">those two effects are
of course NOT objective realities in the static frame</font></p>
<p>When a conscious observer "sees" another reference frame it is
NOT an independent external reality but rather a mental image
inside his own perceptive experience. Therefore the time dilation
and length contraction is NOt an objective reality of the static
frame<br>
</p>
<p><br>
<font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">they are perceived by
the moving observer as a consequence of their OWN motion).</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="#000080">But rather an artifact of
producing the perceptive image of the static frame in his own
mind</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="#000080"></font><font face="Arial"
color="#000080" size="2">. <br>
</font></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/2017 11:50 AM, Albrecht Giese
wrote:<br>
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<p>Grahame,</p>
<p>so as you have explained 'reciprocity' here, it is also my
understanding. <br>
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<p>Sorry, I missed your book. Can you please give me a reference
(if it is in the internet) or the exact title and editor, if it
is only available as a hard copy?</p>
<p>One question in advance: Does the book also cover GRT? And if
this is the case, is it also based on a fixed frame, so that it
assumes something like an ether? <br>
</p>
<p>Best regards<br>
Albrecht<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.07.2017 um 14:01 schrieb Dr
Grahame Blackwell:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">Albrecht,</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">I'd agree with
all that you say here. I'd add just one reminder, of what
we've talked about before.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">For the 'unique
absolute rest frame' to fully stand up to scrutiny in the
light of experimental findings of SR, it's not only
necessary to show that an observer in a moving frame would
be led to believe from observation that their frame is
static - it's also necessary to show that this moving
observer would perceive the SAME degree of (a) time dilation
and (b) length contraction in the absolutely static frame as
would be seen from that static frame in the observer's frame
(those two effects are of course NOT objective realities in
the static frame, they are perceived by the moving observer
as a consequence of their OWN motion).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">To show that
the moving observer perceives themself as static is
relatively (!!) easy; to show that they perceive an
actually-static frame as subject to relativistic effects
takes a little more thought - but it can be done, and shown
to be so. [This is what I have referred to previously as
'reciprocity'.]</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">In addition, of
course, it needs to be - and CAN be - shown how EVERY
experimental finding that's considered to be evidence for
frame symmetry can be fully explained without any need for,
or reference to, frame symmetry.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">No paradoxes -
just a little more thought than most physicists appear to
have wished to put into explaining the 'how' of Relativity
(which is what I always thought physics was actually about -
explaining the 'how'?)</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">All of this is
shown in detail in my latest book, published last year.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">Best regards,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2">Grahame</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:
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href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de" moz-do-not-send="true">Albrecht
Giese</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 07,
2017 9:06 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] JW
on STR twin Paradox</div>
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<p>Chip,</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I also think that it is the easiest and most physical way
to understand relativity in general and dilation in
particular, if one assumes that there is an absolute frame
of rest, and that the motion with respect to this frame
causes (among other phenomena) dilation. But it is a
specific property of relativity that every observer in any
inertial frame can assume that his frame is the frame at
rest. And in his observation the physical world behaves
indeed as if his frame would be the absolute frame at rest.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>This sounds like a paradox at the first glance. But with a
proper use of the Lorentz transformation it can be explained
why it is this way. It is a bit of work to make these
calculations, but it is possible and one may say that this
work is a necessity to understand special relativity.</p>
<p><br>
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<p>Albrecht</p>
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