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<p>Chandra:</p>
<p>Unfortunately the TED talk does not work on my machine but the
transcript is available and Anl Seth states what many people
studying the human psyche as well as eastern philosophy have said
for centuries , Yes we are Hallucinating reality and our physics
is built upon that hallucination, but it works so well, or does
it? <br>
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<p>However as Don Hoffmancognitive scientist UC Irvine contends
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is">https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is</a></p>
<p>What we see is like the icons on a computer screen, a file icon
may only be a symbol of what is real on the disk, but these icons
as well as the "hallucinations" are connected to some reality and
we must take them seriously. Deleting the icon also deletes the
disk which may have disastrous consequences.</p>
<p>For our discussion group it means we can take Albrechts route and
try to understand the universe and photons first based upon the
idea that it is independently real and then solve the human
consciousness problem or we can take the opposite approach and
rebuild a physics without the independent physical reality
assumption and see if we cannot build out a truly macroscopic
quantum theory. Concentrating on finding the mechanisms of
connection between the Hallucination and the reality is my
approach. I think the constant speed of light assumption is one of
the first pillars that must fall. If there is such a constant it
should in my opinion be interpreted as the speed of Now , a
property we individually apply to all our observations. <br>
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<p>best</p>
<p>Wolf</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2017 2:44 PM, Roychoudhuri,
Chandra wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Lately there
has been continuing discussion on the role of observer and
the reality. I view that to be healthy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">We must
guide ourselves to understand and model the universe without
human mind shaping the cosmic system and its working rules.
This suggestion comes from the fact that our own logic puts
the universe to be at least 13 billion years old, while we,
in the human form, have started evolving barely 5 million
years ago (give or take).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">However, we
are not smart enough to determine a well-defined and
decisive path, as yet. Our search must accommodate perpetual
iteration of thinking strategy as we keep on advancing. This
is well justified in the following TED-talk. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Enjoy:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a
href="https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-07-22&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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