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<p>Clarification: <br>
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<p> I have submitted equations in which the approximation of ( +2mm<sub>l</sub>G/r
-2mc<sup>2</sup>- mv<sup>2</sup>)<sup>-1/2</sup> =<sup> </sup>~ <sup>
</sup>1/2 mv<sup>2</sup> + mc<sup>2</sup> -mm<sub>l</sub>G/r</p>
<p>So that simply by recognizing that mc<sup>2 </sup>is the
classic potential energy inside a mass shell -m *Mu* G/Ru ofthe
Universe we get a very simple cosmology that is completely
consistent with all known experiments - the assumption is simply
that the speed of light as a surrogate for the speed of all
electromagnetic phenomena is dependent upon the gravitational
potential which was shown by Shapiro's experiments. and light
bending.and clock slow downs. I interpret c<sup>2</sup> is the
universe escape velocity. <br>
</p>
<p>This does not mean the speed of light is infinite but only that
if we could get outside the mass shell in flat space where the
gravitational energy of the universe mass is zero the speed of
light is some reference c<sub>0</sub><sup>2</sup> In both case
the speed of lighjt and the energy is only determined to an
arbitrary reference constant what is important is the relative
energy or speed of light <br>
</p>
<p>I'm tired of not being recognized as an intelligent physicist
doing physics. I'm only claiming that the the first order
approximation is all I know that has been experimentally verified
length contraction and close to speed of light experiments are
only verified through circular reasoning <br>
</p>
<p>I have asked Albrecht for references to experiments that show
otherwise a half dozen times but am always ignored <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>wolf<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2017 8:54 AM, Albrecht Giese
wrote:<br>
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<p>Chandra,</p>
<p>you have written here a lot of good and true considerations;
with most of them I can agree. However two comments from my
view:</p>
<p>1.) The speed of light: <br>
The speed of light when <i>measured in vacuum </i>shows always
a constant value. Einstein has taken this result as a fact in so
far that the real speed of light is constant. However if we
follow the Lorentzian interpretation of relativity then only the
<i>measured </i>c is constant. It looks constant because, if
the measurement equipment is in motion, the instruments change
their indications so that the result shows the known constant
value. - I personally follow the Lorentzian relativity because
in this version the relativistic phenomena can be deduced from
known physical behaviour. So, it is true physics.<br>
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<p>There is a different understanding of what Wolf thinks. He has
in the preceding discussion here given an equation, according to
which the speed of light can go up to infinity. This is to my
knowledge in conflict with any measurement.<br>
</p>
<p>2) The quantisation of light:<br>
This was also discussed repeatedly here in these mails. And I
have (also) repeatedly referred to my PhD experiment, which was
Compton scattering at protons. An electron of defined energy
was converted into a photon. The photon was scattered at a
proton at extreme small angles (so almost no influence) and then
re-converted into an electron-positron pair. This pair was
measured and it reproduced quite exactly (by better than 2
percent) the energy of the originals electron. This was repeated
for electrons of different energies. - I do not see any
explanation for this process without the assumption that there
was a photon (i.e. a quantum) of a well defined energy, not a
light wave. <br>
</p>
<p>How does this fit into your understanding?</p>
<p>Best wishes<br>
Albrecht</p>
<p>PS: Can I find your book "Causal Physics" online?<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.07.2017 um 18:52 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You have said it well:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“Concentrating on finding the
mechanisms of connection between the Hallucination and the
reality is my approach. I think the constant speed of
light assumption is one of the first pillars that must
fall. If there is such a constant it should in my opinion
be interpreted as the speed of Now…”. <o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, “constant c” is a fundamentally
flawed postulate by the theoretician Einstein, so fond of
“Gedanken Experiments”. Unfortunately, one can cook up wide
varieties of logically self-consistent mathematical theories
and then match them up with “Gedanken” experiments! We know
that in the real world, we know that the velocity of light
is dictated by both the medium and the velocity of the
medium. Apparently, Einstein’s “Gedanken Experiment” of
riding the crest of a light wave inspired him to construct
SRT and sold all the mathematical physicists that nature if
4-diemsional. Out of the “Messiah Complex”, we now believe
that the universe could be 5, or, 7, or 11, or, 13, ….
dimensional system where many of the dimensions are “folded
in” !!!! By the way, running time is not a measurable
physical parameter. We can contract or dilate frequency of
diverse oscillators, using proper physical influence, not
the running time. Frequency of oscillators help us measure a
period (or time interval). <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wise human thinkers have recognized this
“Hallucination” problem from ancient times, which are
obvious (i) from Asian perspective of how five blinds can
collaborate to construct a reasonable model of the Cosmic
Elephant and then keep on iterating the model ad infinitum,
or (ii) Western perspective of “shadows of external objects
projected inside a cave wall”. Unfortunately, we become
“groupies” of our contemporary “messiahs” to survive
economically and feel “belonging to the sociaety”. The
result is the current sad state of moribund physics
thinking. Fortunately, many people have started challenging
this moribund status quo with papers, books, and web forums.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, I see well-recognizable renaissance
in physics coming within a few decades! Yes, it will take
time. Einstein’s “indivisible quanta” of 1905 still
dominates our vocabulary; even though no optical engineer
ever try to propagate an “indivisible quanta”; they always
propagate light waves. Unfortunately, they propagate Fourier
monochromatic modes that neither exits in nature; nor is a
causal signal. [I have been trying to correct this
fundamental confusion through my book, “Causal Physics”.]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Coming back to our methodology of
thinking, I have defined an iterative approach in the Ch.12
of the above book. I have now generalized the approach by
anchoring our sustainable evolution to remain anchored with
the reality of nature! “Urgency of Evolution Process
Congruent Thinking” [see attached].<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, one can immediately bring a
challenge. If all our interpretations are cooked up by our
neural network for survival; then who has the authority to
define objective reality? Everybody, but collaboratively,
like modeling the “Cosmic Elephant”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let us realize the fact that the seeing
“color” is an interpretation by the brain. It is a complete
figment of our neuro-genetic interpretation! That is why
none of us will succeed in quantitatively defining the
subtlety of color variation of any magnificent color
painting without a quantitative spectrometer. The “color” is
not an objective parameter; but the frequency is (not
wavelength, though!). One can now recognize the subtle
difference, from seeing “color”, to <b><i>quantifying
energy content per frequency interval.</i></b> This is
“objective” science determined by instruments without a
“mind”, which is reproducible outside of human
interpretations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And, we have already mastered this
technology quite a bit. The biosphere exists. It has been
nurturing biological lives for over 3.5 billion years
without the intervention of humans. We are a very late
product of this evolution. This is an objective recognition
on our part! Our, successful evolution needed “instantaneous
color” recognition to survive for our day-to-day living in
our earlier stage. We have now overcome our survival mode as
a species. And we now have become a pest in the biosphere,
instead of becoming the caretaker of it for our own
long-term future. <b><i>This is the sad break in our
wisdom.</i></b> This is why I am promoting the concept,
“Urgency of Evolution Process Congruent Thinking”. This
approach helps generate a common, but perpetually evolving
thinking platform for all thinkers, whether working to
understand Nature’s Engineering (Physics, Chemistry,
Biology, etc.) or, to carry out our Social Engineering
(Economics, Politics, Religions, etc.).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Role of observer, a
deeper path to introspection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Unfortunately the TED talk does not work on my machine but
the transcript is available and Anl Seth states what many
people studying the human psyche as well as eastern
philosophy have said for centuries , Yes we are
Hallucinating reality and our physics is built upon that
hallucination, but it works so well, or does it? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>However as Don Hoffmancognitive scientist UC Irvine
contends <a
href="https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What we see is like the icons on a computer screen, a file
icon may only be a symbol of what is real on the disk, but
these icons as well as the "hallucinations" are connected to
some reality and we must take them seriously. Deleting the
icon also deletes the disk which may have disastrous
consequences.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>For our discussion group it means we can take Albrechts
route and try to understand the universe and photons first
based upon the idea that it is independently real and then
solve the human consciousness problem or we can take the
opposite approach and rebuild a physics without the
independent physical reality assumption and see if we cannot
build out a truly macroscopic quantum theory. Concentrating
on finding the mechanisms of connection between the
Hallucination and the reality is my approach. I think the
constant speed of light assumption is one of the first
pillars that must fall. If there is such a constant it
should in my opinion be interpreted as the speed of Now , a
property we individually apply to all our observations. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Wolf<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/23/2017 2:44 PM, Roychoudhuri,
Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Dear
colleagues:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Lately
there has been continuing discussion on the role of
observer and the reality. I view that to be healthy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">We must
guide ourselves to understand and model the universe
without human mind shaping the cosmic system and its
working rules. This suggestion comes from the fact that
our own logic puts the universe to be at least 13
billion years old, while we, in the human form, have
started evolving barely 5 million years ago (give or
take). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">However,
we are not smart enough to determine a well-defined and
decisive path, as yet. Our search must accommodate
perpetual iteration of thinking strategy as we keep on
advancing. This is well justified in the following
TED-talk. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Enjoy:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a
href="https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-07-22&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-07-22&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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