<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi John,<div class=""> Thanks for your detailed reply to Hans’ question about photon radiation from an electron, which I am copying to Hans in this reply. I hope you will copy the updated version of your paper to him when you send it to this group. </div><div class=""> with best wishes,</div><div class=""> Richard</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 2, 2017, at 3:03 AM, John Williamson <<a href="mailto:John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk" class="">John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;" class="">Hello Richard,<br class=""><br class="">I think the mechanism for photon radiation from an electron is an overlap of a specific field configuration with an internal electron wave-function. The electron wave-function contains both mass-like and field-like components. If one overlaps this with a specific field configuration - equal and perpendicular (but static) electric and magnetic fields, the resultant cancels the mass like terms and the result is a copy of the original wave-function, but at lower energy, plus is a PROPAGATING pure field part of the resultant. the propagating part is quantised if the emitting charge is quantised (which it usually is). The reverse process is also possible - propagating field converted to localised energy. That is the internal electron wave-function acts as a generator or absorber of photons. This process is described, though not very well, in my first SPIE paper. There is also a (much better explained) version nearly ready to submit. Will copy this to the group when I send it off.<br class=""><br class="">Regards, John.<br class=""><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" class=""><div id="divRpF193762" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><font size="2" face="Tahoma" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" class="">general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] on behalf of Richard Gauthier [<a href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" class="">richgauthier@gmail.com</a>]<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:53 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew Meulenberg<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion; Hans Montanus<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [General] charged photons<br class=""></font><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Hello Andrew, John W and all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Andrew, thanks for the link. A Weyl fermion, though not the same as a spin-1/2 charged photon, could be a step in this direction, since a Weyl fermion is a massless chiral fermion. It also has not been detected as a separate fundamental particle.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> By the way, a new colleague Hans Montanus wrote to me recently “For all the photon models for the electron, always the question raises to me: how can photon be radiated off from an accelerating electron? If the electron is a circling (or double circling in the toroidal model) photon, then it rather is a photon radiated off from an accelerating (the circling photon as a whole) photon. Similarly, pair creation would mean two circling photons coming of from a single (usual, non circling) photon. Do you know if there are models for such processes?”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Do you have any thoughts on these questions about radiation of a photon from an accelerated circling photon, and pair creation from a single non-circling photon?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Richard</div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 1, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Andrew Meulenberg <<a href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com" class="" target="_blank">mules333@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Dear Richard,<br class=""><br class=""></div>We have demonstrated experimentally that photons can exhibit fermionic as well as bosonic natures. The charged-photon model, as a transient during the transition between photon and lepton pair, can be supported theoretically as well. It may be possible to use additional concepts to support your model:<br class=""><div class="" style="margin-left: 40px;"><br class=""><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-gravitational-effect-observed-in-lab-crystal-1.22338" class="" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/news/<wbr class="">big-bang-gravitational-effect-<wbr class="">observed-in-lab-crystal-1.<wbr class="">22338</a><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><br class=""></span></div><br class=""></div>The Weyl Fermion, (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyl_semimetal" class="" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyl_semimetal</a>), as a charged, massless, particle, might be worth exploring in that context.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""></div>I don't have time to explore the concept myself right now; but, I would be interested in your comments, if you (or others) do get the opportunity to look at it.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Andrew M.<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"></span><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"></span><div class="" style="margin-left: 40px;"><div class=""><div class="gmail-h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-m_-8842444446720334467HOEnZb"></span><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; 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