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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Hi Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have been thinking about you recently. Some of the research I have been doing reminded me of some of the things you suggested earlier about the nature of the photon and electron.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Once you talked about how it appears that an electron is made of a “rectified” half of a photon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have come to a similar conclusion, but got there from a completely different approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>If you are interested please read the attached paper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Warmest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Attached is a paper on electric charge. It approaches the subject from a completely different perspective.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Please comment.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Chip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Meulenberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] charged photons<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear John,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I look forward to your new paper. If it is based on a time-dependent model, then it could address: several problems with the 'common' interpretation of QM, Wilczek's concept of sequestration, and my view of phase transitions rather than quantum jumps.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew M.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_ _ _ <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:03 AM, John Williamson <<a href="mailto:John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk" target="_blank">John.Williamson@glasgow.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello Richard,<br><br>I think the mechanism for photon radiation from an electron is an overlap of a specific field configuration with an internal electron wave-function. The electron wave-function contains both mass-like and field-like components. If one overlaps this with a specific field configuration - equal and perpendicular (but static) electric and magnetic fields, the resultant cancels the mass like terms and the result is a copy of the original wave-function, but at lower energy, plus is a PROPAGATING pure field part of the resultant. the propagating part is quantised if the emitting charge is quantised (which it usually is). The reverse process is also possible - propagating field converted to localised energy. That is the internal electron wave-function acts as a generator or absorber of photons. This process is described, though not very well, in my first SPIE paper. There is also a (much better explained) version nearly ready to submit. Will copy this to the group when I send it off.<br><br>Regards, John.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-7295576810799490141divRpF193762"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> General [general-bounces+john.williamson=<a href="mailto:glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" target="_blank">glasgow.ac.uk@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>] on behalf of Richard Gauthier [<a href="mailto:richgauthier@gmail.com" target="_blank">richgauthier@gmail.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Meulenberg<br><b>Cc:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion; Hans Montanus<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] charged photons</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hello Andrew, John W and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> Andrew, thanks for the link. A Weyl fermion, though not the same as a spin-1/2 charged photon, could be a step in this direction, since a Weyl fermion is a massless chiral fermion. It also has not been detected as a separate fundamental particle.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> By the way, a new colleague Hans Montanus wrote to me recently “For all the photon models for the electron, always the question raises to me: how can photon be radiated off from an accelerating electron? If the electron is a circling (or double circling in the toroidal model) photon, then it rather is a photon radiated off from an accelerating (the circling photon as a whole) photon. Similarly, pair creation would mean two circling photons coming of from a single (usual, non circling) photon. Do you know if there are models for such processes?”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> Do you have any thoughts on these questions about radiation of a photon from an accelerated circling photon, and pair creation from a single non-circling photon?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Aug 1, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Andrew Meulenberg <<a href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com" target="_blank">mules333@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Dear Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>We have demonstrated experimentally that photons can exhibit fermionic as well as bosonic natures. The charged-photon model, as a transient during the transition between photon and lepton pair, can be supported theoretically as well. It may be possible to use additional concepts to support your model:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-gravitational-effect-observed-in-lab-crystal-1.22338" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-gravitational-effect-observed-in-lab-crystal-1.22338</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>The Weyl Fermion, (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyl_semimetal" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyl_semimetal</a>), as a charged, massless, particle, might be worth exploring in that context. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>I don't have time to explore the concept myself right now; but, I would be interested in your comments, if you (or others) do get the opportunity to look at it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Andrew M.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:mules333@gmail.com">mules333@gmail.com</a><br><a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/mules333%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1" target="_blank">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/mules333%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br>Click here to unsubscribe<br></a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>