<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Dear Wolf,<br><br></div>This whole concept is new to me (only weeks old), so i can't recommend anything yet. I'm just trying to find the time to scan/read what looks promising. However, it may be something to draw a number of models together (given a little 'wiggle-room'). . <br><br>One of the questions to be addressed is certainly on what holds the centers together. So, your thoughts could be very important. My first instinct is to look at the whirlpool effect as exemplified by the Falaco effect (see various papers <cite>like</cite><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0101098"><cite> </cite>Falaco solitons, cosmic strings in a swimming pool</a></span></font><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> RM Kiehn - arXiv preprint gr-qc/0101098, 2001 - <a href="http://arxiv.org">arxiv.org</a></span></font><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></font><cite class="gmail-_Rm">).</cite> I am slow with the mathematics; nevertheless, I find the concept to be useful and now I can apply it to the polarizability of, and forces between, two centers. My preference at the moment is to assume relativity and 3-space + time.<br><br></div>Richard has shown that his charged photon concept has wiggle room and therefore it is probably compatible with my present concepts (which also have wiggle room). Both of our models may be compatible with a 2-center model. <br><br>I fear that Albrecht's twin particle model may not be given the wiggle room to incorporate the two-center model. If so, that is too bad, because both models might benefit from the comparison.<br><br></div>Since my twins were born, I have not had time to keep up with most of the discussions of this forum. (This lack of time is the result of a different 2-center model. Just this evening, I had two pair of glasses, which I had left on my laptop, nearly destroyed.) So pointing out important threads might be necessary to bring me up-to-speed on some of the things presented as they pertain to the present discussion.<br><br></div>Andrew M.<br><div><div><div>_________________<br><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Wolfgang Baer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com" target="_blank">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Andrew:</p>
<p>I've been working on the concept of charge and mass center
differences and forces thaT MAY HOLD THEM TOGETHER <br>
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<p>You mention quite a few papers which one or which set would you
recommend to find out more about what has been proposed?</p>
<p>And yes I have suggested this to Albrecht but he has not felt it
was what he has in mind, his idea is that the two rotating chrges
are purely a elecromagnetic strong or weak force, I cannot
remember which</p>
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<div>Dear Richard and Albrecht,<br>
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Richard has expressed doubts about Albrecht's 2-body
electron and Albrecht probably has reservations about
Richard's charged photons.<br>
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I just read a paper ("The dynamical equation of the spinning
electron," J. Phys. A, 36, 4703, (2003), and also LANL
ArXiv:physis/0112005, along.with some background papers)
that Richard has referenced in his: The Dirac Equation and
the Superluminal Electron Model (<a href="https://richardgauthier.academia.edu/research#papers" target="_blank">https://richardgauthier.<wbr>academia.edu/research#papers</a>).
I found a concept with which I was previously unfamiliar:
the centers of mass and charge being different. If this
interesting concept is valid; then it might be possible that
the two centers are the 'objects' that Albrecht has proposed
for his composite electron. It might also apply to the
charged photon.<br>
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Has anyone any comments on this concept (or n the author of
the paper: Martin Rivas)?<br>
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