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    <p>Andre:</p>
    <p>This looks very interesting. I've often though Einstein's
      equations (Lorenz Transforms) are correct but that along with the
      speed of light postulate they represent a whole world view I am
      not too sure of. Glad to see an alternative. Can you provide
      references to Kaufman and Abrahams work?</p>
    <p><span style=""><i><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
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                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">"I know that the
                      very idea that the Coulomb force induces
                      physically existing kinetic energy in charges
                      appears strange to most, but I found that so much
                      can be explained with this idea that I just can't
                      see how physical reality could be otherwise." </span></span></span></span></span></span></i><span
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                    Roman","serif""><font size="+1">Are
                      you talking pure electricity or mass-charged
                      particles. Is not the electromagnetic vector potential
                      related to momentum i.e. kinetic energy? <br>
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                      there any concept that charge and mass need a
                      force to bind them together in your idea?</font></span></span></span></span></span></span><i><span
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    <p>Chip: <span style="">that “<i>Absolute uniform motion cannot be
          detected by any means.</i>” does this statement not apply only
        to a limited class of experiments.</span></p>
    <p><span style="">Can we not say we detecting our motion relative to
        the cosmic background by simply looking out is legitimate?</span></p>
    <p><span style="">Wolf<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2017 8:50 PM, André Michaud
      wrote:<br>
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        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
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                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">Hi Chip,</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">Thank you for your
                      welcoming message. I remember that we crossed
                      paths before on ResearchGate, but I don't recall
                      the specifics.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
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                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">You really are
                      going to the crux of the matter with this question
                      "How do you view and understand the causes for
                      “relativity”?"</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">Fist time I have to
                      actually answer it so directly.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">Contrary to most
                      (seems to me, from decades of interaction with
                      others) my first contact with relativity was
                      through a book by Henri Poincare "La science et
                      l'hypothèse", which led me directly to study the
                      experiments carried out by Walter Kaufmann that
                      Max Abraham interpreted, both of whom, I learned
                      much later, got the gamma factor idea from
                      Woldemar Voigt with whom Abraham had contacts, and
                      who seems to have been to first to establish the
                      concept. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">From Kaufmann's
                      experiments with relativistic electrons in a
                      bubble chamber, the gamma factor simply gives the
                      exact measure of how much kinetic energy is
                      induced in accelerating charged particles with
                      velocity as they are accelerated by the ambient
                      electric and magnetic fields he used to control
                      the moving electrons during his experiments, as
                      demonstrated by his results, half of which
                      converts to a velocity related momentary mass
                      increment which is measurable transversally, which
                      is what the Kaufmann experiments demonstrate,</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="line-height:115%"><span
                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">Only later did I
                      study Einstein's SR concept grounded on the idea
                      that the gamma factor applies to time dilation and
                      length contraction. Since I already was in
                      agreement with Abraham and Poincare's views about
                      the Kaufmann experiment, I always stuck with this
                      view as matching more closely physical reality.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
              style="line-height:115%"><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
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                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">So to me,
                      "relativity" simply relates to the fact that
                      energy is induced non-linearly (according to the
                      gamma factor) with velocity of charged particles
                      by the Coulomb force, or with proximity between
                      charge particles also due to the Coulomb force. It
                      has no other implications from my perspective.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span
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                      style="font-family:"Times New
                      Roman","serif"">I know that the
                      very idea that the Coulomb force induces
                      physically existing kinetic energy in charges
                      appears strange to most, but I found that so much
                      can be explained with this idea that I just can't
                      see how physical reality could be otherwise. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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          <i>On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 19:18:58 -0700, Richard Gauthier <richgauthier@gmail.com>
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          Hi Andrew,
          <div>I forwarded the following from Chip on the discussion
            list.</div>
          <div>Richard</div>
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                <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
                 
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                    1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span
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                    Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">"Chip Akins" <<a
                      href="mailto:chipakins@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">chipakins@gmail.com</a>></span></div>
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                    1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
                    style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                    Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Re: [General]
                      half-photons??</b></span></div>
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                    style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
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                    4:00:37 AM PDT</span></div>
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                        style="">Andre<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">I am delighted that you might
                        participate in our discussion group. I have read
                        some of your work and comments on ResearchGate
                        and find you to be a thoughtful, intelligent
                        contributor to the process of discovery.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">Thank you for forwarding some of your
                        thoughts through Richard. I am hoping you will
                        join our group so that we can all benefit from
                        your insights as well.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">As you have pointed out, the postulate
                        that “<i>Absolute uniform motion cannot be
                          detected by any means.</i>” Does not mean that
                        “<i>the concept of absolute rest and the ether
                          have no meaning</i>”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">For if matter is made of energy, and
                        energy always takes the propagating form,
                        whether as light or confined to create matter,
                        then it would be very difficult indeed for us to
                        detect our motion through the medium (ether).
                        This situation would also cause the appearance
                        of relativity.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">So, there is another view, which is
                        more causal than Einstein’s, where “relativity”<b>is
                          the result of the medium of space</b>and the
                        way energy creates matter and light.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">Is this your opinion as well? How do
                        you view and understand the causes for
                        “relativity”?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        style="">Chip<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
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                              Behalf Of</b>Richard Gauthier<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b>Friday, October 27, 2017 3:38 PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b>Nature of Light and Particles -
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                            <b>Cc:</b>André Michaud <<a
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                            <b>Subject:</b>Re: [General] half-photons??<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                          initial;">Hello Grahame, Vivian, Chip, John W,
                          Martin, Andrew and all,</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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                          normal;">Here are forwarded some more
                          thoughtful comments/responses from</span><span
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                          initial;">André</span><span style="font-size:
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                          normal;">that I think are relevant to your SR
                          discussions.</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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                          style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(75, 75,
                          75); font-weight: normal;">Richard</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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                        serif; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="font-size:
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                          initial;">André:</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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                        serif; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="font-size:
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                          initial;">Thank you for forwarding the
                          discussion between Vivian, Grahame and Chip. I
                          must say that over the years, I have come
                          across most of similar comments about SR and
                          various flavors of photon and electron inner
                          structure proposals, either just reading about
                          them or partaking in the discussions.</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
                      <h1 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;
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                        serif; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="font-size:
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                          initial;">I appreciate you sending me such
                          updates. Causes me to think of these issues
                          from a fresh angle. Thank you for your offer
                          to actively join the group, but I prefer to
                          wait until one or other member wishes to
                          exchange with me. As previously mentioned, I
                          am quite happy just contributing my ideas to
                          you, and let you be the judge of whether or
                          not you communicate my thoughts in the
                          meantime if you deem useful in context. As far
                          as I am concerned, I am discussing with you
                          personally, simply because you are interested
                          in my opinion.</span><br>
                        <br>
                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(75, 75,
                          75); font-weight: normal;"><span
                            style="background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);
                            background-position: initial initial;
                            background-repeat: initial initial;">I have
                            some comments of my own regarding SR. It
                            seems to be generally assumed that SR is
                            completely electromagnetism compliant. I was
                            once presented with this paper by Richard E.
                            Haskell, as giving the full derivation of
                            all Maxwell's equations in addition to
                            Lorentz force from special relativity and
                            Coulomb's law:</span></span><br>
                        <br>
                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight:
                          normal;"><a
href="http://www.cse.secs.oakland.edu/haskell/Special%20Relativity%20and%20Maxwells%20Equations.pdf"
                            style="color: purple; text-decoration:
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title="http://www.cse.secs.oakland.edu/haskell/Special%20Relativity%20and%20Maxwells%20Equations.pdf"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:
                              rgb(66, 139, 202);">http://www.cse.secs.oakland.edu/haskell/Special%20Relativity%20and%20Maxwells%20Equations.pdf</span></a><br>
                          <br>
                          <span style="color: rgb(75, 75, 75);"><span
                              style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">I find it very well done and
                              indeed clearly explaining SR and its
                              origins.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Here are some remarks that came
                              to mind as I read it:</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">On page 10, Einstein's first
                              postulate is stated as follows: Absolute
                              uniform motion cannot be detected by any
                              means. The following conclusion by the
                              author regarding this postulate seems to
                              be totally inappropriate to me: "This is
                              to say that the concept of absolute rest
                              and the ether have no meaning." I fail to
                              see how this conclusion can logically
                              derive so straightforwardly from the
                              stated first postulate.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">In my own book (</span></span><span
                            class="a-size-large"><span style="color:
                              rgb(17, 17, 17);">Electromagnetic
                              Mechanics of Elementary Particles: 2nd
                              Edition--Richard</span></span><span
                            style="color: rgb(75, 75, 75);
                            background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);
                            background-position: initial initial;
                            background-repeat: initial initial;">),
                            metaphorically speaking of course, as
                            formulated, this first postulate is a
                            totally arbitrary axiomatic assertion not
                            grounded on experimentally observed data
                            about physical reality. Consequently, it is
                            an invalid premise to draw any conclusion
                            about physical reality. Also, I am positive
                            that absolute uniform motion of free
                            electromagnetic energy in vacuum has been
                            detected and confirmed out of any doubt. Its
                            uniform velocity has also been derived by
                            Maxwell from second partial derivatives of
                            the equations of Ampere and Gauss, which
                            themselves were established from
                            experimental data 40 years before.</span><br>
                          <br>
                          <span style="color: rgb(75, 75, 75);"><span
                              style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">His second postulate (on page 10
                              also) (light is propagated in empty space
                              with a velocity c which is independent of
                              the motion of the source), is in reality
                              Maxwell's rightfully arrived at conclusion
                              40 years previously from the second
                              partial derivatives from which he
                              established the speed of light as being c,
                              which is a conclusion that Einstein
                              perfectly understood.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">In reality, this is not an
                              axiomatic postulate as is being assumed,
                              but a well established conclusion derived
                              in direct line from equations themselves
                              established from experimental data by
                              Gauss and Ampere.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">So there is no requirement to
                              "modify our ideas about the nature of
                              time" as stated on page 10 to accommodate
                              the confirmed fact that light travels at
                              uniform velocity c in vacuum.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Then comes the description of
                              two famous different inertial frames each
                              with an observer, moving at different
                              fixed velocities both stuck with the task
                              of seeing the same light as moving at a
                              constant velocity.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">First, naturally occurring
                              inertial motion at fixed velocities of
                              material bodies is impossible in physical
                              reality, so my view is that this set up
                              cannot possibly lead to any valid
                              conclusions with respect to physical
                              reality. If a body is not in immediate
                              contact with another body, it will
                              accelerate, so its velocity will
                              constantly change. If in contact with
                              another body, it will accelerate with this
                              second body and its velocity will also
                              constantly change.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Second, whatever opinion these
                              two observers may have about the velocity
                              of light will not change its actual
                              physical velocity.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">You can see that the squared
                              velocities ratio of the Lorentz factor is
                              obtained from strictly mathematical
                              geometric considerations established at
                              equation (5) involving time to
                              axiomatically associate the Lorentz factor
                              to time with equation (6).</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">You will also observe the same
                              establishment of the Lorentz gamma factor
                              for the so-called "length contraction"
                              with equation (14) strictly from geometric
                              and algebraic consideration, which is not
                              a derivation from physically obtained
                              data, but from a construct obtained by
                              establishing a geometric set up that will
                              produce this relation between the
                              "mathematical" concept of length and the
                              gamma factor.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">I must say here that most of my
                              life, I had been convinced that the gamma
                              factor proper had been derived from
                              electromagnetic equations by Lorentz and
                              not from this geometric/algebraic
                              mathematical set up.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">The reason is that I have read
                              so much material since the 50's that I
                              didn't recall where I read about its
                              derivation from electromagnetic equations,
                              or even if this was a false memory. I
                              tried to relocate the source after I
                              derived it myself from an electromagnetic
                              equation (equation 66 in the following
                              paper, derived from equation 51, itself a
                              conversion from strictly electromagnetic
                              equation 34), to compare results, but
                              couldn't re-locate it. I then assumed by
                              default that it was Lorentz who had made
                              the original derivation from
                              electromagnetism and that I just did't
                              succeed in re-locating the source
                              document:</span></span><br>
                          <br>
                          <a
href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282353551_From_Classical_to_Relativistic_Mechanics_via_Maxwell"
                            style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;"
title="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282353551_From_Classical_to_Relativistic_Mechanics_via_Maxwell"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:
                              rgb(66, 139, 202);">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282353551_From_Classical_to_Relativistic_Mechanics_via_Maxwell</span></a><br>
                          <br>
                          <span style="color: rgb(75, 75, 75);"><span
                              style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">You can verify that from the
                              electromagnetic perspective the "gamma
                              factor" derived in this paper has nothing
                              to do with length or time contraction,
                              only with charged particles energy
                              increase with velocity (and with proximity
                              between charged particles according to the
                              Coulomb law).</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">I then investigated further and
                              found that all past derivations of the
                              gamma factor had been made from this
                              geometric/algebraic set up that was
                              initially established by Woldemar Voigt in
                              1887,</span></span><br>
                          <br>
                          <a
href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data_query?bibcode=2001ChJPh..39..211E&link_type=ARTICLE&db_key=PHY&high="
                            style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                            underline;"
title="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data_query?bibcode=2001ChJPh..39..211E&link_type=ARTICLE&db_key=PHY&high="
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:
                              rgb(66, 139, 202);">http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data_query?bibcode=2001ChJPh..39..211E&link_type=ARTICLE&db_key=PHY&high=</span></a><br>
                          <br>
                          <span style="color: rgb(75, 75, 75);"><span
                              style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">who had epistolary contacts with
                              Larmor, Lorentz and Poincare, who also are
                              credited with developing the method. I
                              finally relocated where I had gotten the
                              idea that one of them had also derived it
                              from electromagnetism.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">It was due to Walter Kaufmann's
                              demonstration that the mass of the
                              electron varied with velocity according to
                              the relativistic equation during his
                              experimentation leading to the
                              identification of the transverse
                              relativistic mass of moving electrons,
                              that made use of the gamma factor
                              developed from the geometry/algebraic
                              method, but that finally no-one seemed to
                              have actually derived the gamma factor
                              directly from an electromagnetic equation,
                              before my own derivation in the above
                              paper.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">If on your side, you know of
                              such a derivation directly from an
                              electromagnetic equation, I would really
                              appreciate a link to the paper, or a
                              reference to the paper if not available
                              online, so I can compare methods.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">All of this is meant to
                              emphasize that this derivation of the
                              gamma factor from an electromagnetic
                              equation confirms that from the
                              electromagnetism perspective, in physical
                              reality the gamma factor is related
                              strictly to energy increase with velocity
                              of charged particles such as the electron,
                              and under no circumstance to time dilation
                              or so-called "length contraction".</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">I place the word "so-called"
                              before "length contraction", because there
                              is a real problem with the very concept of
                              length contraction when applied to
                              physically existing bodies.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">I occasionally give the
                              following example to bring to mind the
                              immense distances that separate all
                              charged particles within the atoms of
                              which every macroscopic body is made.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">If a hydrogen atom was upsized
                              so that its central proton became as large
                              as the Sun, then the electron would
                              stabilize as far as Neptune's orbit, which
                              would make a hydrogen atom as large as the
                              whole solar system. This means that
                              distances between the charged particles
                              within atoms making up macroscopic bodies
                              are relatively astronomical.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Given that all bodies are made
                              of such empty structures, the very concept
                              of "length" can be seen as meaningless
                              with respect to its physical composition,
                              and that what would be involved when the
                              possible "length contraction" of a
                              macroscopic body is considered, would
                              really minimally be a "distance
                              contraction" between the electronic
                              escorts and the nuclei of the constituting
                              atoms.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">This being said, such distance
                              contraction would apply by structure not
                              only to the length of macroscopic bodies,
                              but also to their other dimensions, which
                              are width and thickness.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Given the assertion that SR is
                              deemed electromagnetism compliant, such
                              shortening of the distances between
                              electronic escorts and nuclei within
                              bodies subjected to "length contraction"
                              should involve a corresponding energy
                              increase within the mass of the body due
                              to the Coulomb law at play as a function
                              of the inverse square of the contracting
                              distances between charged electrons of the
                              electronic escorts and the charged nuclei.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">But, nowhere in SR is there a
                              provision for this energy increase in the
                              contracting mass of bodies moving at
                              relativistic velocities, which is a gaping
                              hole in the SR theory that seems not to
                              have attracted any attention.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">So, if SR does not account for
                              this energy increase mandated by the
                              Coulomb force, this means that SR is not
                              Maxwell equations compliant, because
                              Gauss's equation for the electric field,
                              which is Maxwell's first equation, is a
                              simple generalization of Coulomb's law,
                              which seems not to be applicable to bodies
                              sustaining length contraction according to
                              SR.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Well, I hope this makes some
                              sense to you, and if you have input about
                              a prior derivation of the gamma factor
                              from an electromagnetic equation, I really
                              would appreciate.</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">Best Regards,</span><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background-color: rgb(248, 248,
                              248); background-position: initial
                              initial; background-repeat: initial
                              initial;">André</span></span></span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
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                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                            Roman', serif;">On Oct 26, 2017, at 4:32 PM,
                            Dr Grahame Blackwell <<a
                              href="mailto:grahame@starweave.com"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline;" moz-do-not-send="true">grahame@starweave.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
                        </div>
                        <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">Dear
                                Vivian (et al.)</span><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">On
                                looking back over my email (below)just
                                sent, I'm concernedthat my reference to
                                "those who use language in such a way as
                                to bolster their arguments" might
                                possibly be misconstrued as a reference
                                to yourself. Please be assured that this
                                was not my intention, I certainly don't
                                regard you as having done this, I fully
                                appreciate that your usage was to
                                describe a particular situation rather
                                than to justify a line of argument. My
                                point about precise use of language
                                stands, and of course applies to all of
                                us; my point about misuse of words to
                                strengthen an argument was with
                                reference to a wholly hypothetical
                                situation which I cannot imagine
                                applying to anyone in this group.</span><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">Best
                                regards,</span><span style="font-size:
                                10pt; font-family: Helvetica,
                                sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">Grahame</span><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                              Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Helvetica, sans-serif;">----- Original
                                Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; background-color:
                                rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Arial, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  Arial, sans-serif;"><a
                                    href="mailto:grahame@starweave.com"
                                    style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline;"
                                    title="grahame@starweave.com"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">Dr Grahame
                                    Blackwell</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Arial, sans-serif;">To:</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  Arial, sans-serif;"><a
                                    href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com"
                                    style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline;"
                                    title="viv@universephysics.com"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">Viv Robinson</a>;<a
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" style="color:
                                    purple; text-decoration: underline;"
title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">Nature of
                                    Light and Particles - General
                                    Discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Arial, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  Arial, sans-serif;">Thursday, October
                                  26, 2017 11:58 PM<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                            </div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; background-color: white;"><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Arial, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  Arial, sans-serif;">Re: [General]
                                  half-photons??<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; background-color: white;"> </div>
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                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Dear
                                    Vivian,</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Thanks
                                    for your reply.</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">First and
                                    foremost I need to say that I
                                    haven’t<b>ever</b>“chosen to
                                    misrepresent” you; that’s the sort
                                    of emotive language that I find
                                    quite unhelpful.To make assumptions
                                    regarding the intentions of others,
                                    and then state those assumptions as
                                    fact, is always a risky business!I
                                    have simply described my
                                    understanding of what you have said
                                    as it seems to me – and hopefully
                                    always made it clear that this is
                                    what I’m doing.[Why on earth would I<b><i>choose</i></b>to
                                    misrepresent you?]</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Second,
                                    with regard to my being “pedantic”
                                    over your choice of words: as I’ve
                                    said, I’m quite relaxed over the use
                                    of “crumpled” (though I see it quite
                                    differently); however I cannot be so
                                    casual about your use of the word
                                    “requires” when your proposed
                                    ‘requirement’ is in fact just one of
                                    at least two options.For me this
                                    goes right to the heart of
                                    scientific rigour: if, for example,
                                    a medical researcher stated that
                                    onset of a particular medical
                                    condition ‘requires’ an elevated
                                    temperature of five degrees above
                                    the norm, when in fact under some
                                    circumstances this need not be the
                                    case, the consequences could be
                                    catastrophic.</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Many
                                    parallel situations can be
                                    envisaged, in almost every branch of
                                    science.I’d go so far as to say that
                                    I wouldn’t be able to have a
                                    meaningful discussion with anyone
                                    who used language in such a way to
                                    bolster their own scientific
                                    arguments.Certainly a view of the
                                    nature of Relativity, or of the
                                    structure of photons, that (in my
                                    view) misuses language in this way
                                    would be of absolutely no interest
                                    to me.If this makes me a pedant
                                    then, yes, I plead guilty as charged
                                    – and I believe that science would
                                    be the worse for it if others
                                    investigating fundamental aspects of
                                    our universe didn’t take the same
                                    view.</span><span style="font-size:
                                    10pt; font-family: Helvetica,
                                    sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">I agree
                                    100% with your proposal that the
                                    circulating-photon model of an
                                    electron (at a constant light-speed)
                                    accounts fully for observed
                                    phenomena attributed to Relativity;
                                    this is a point that Chip and I have
                                    both been quite vocal about pretty
                                    much since we each joined this group
                                    (as I understand your position on
                                    this Chip – forgive me if that’s
                                    incorrect in any way) and that I’ve
                                    been writing about for nigh on 20
                                    years.This causes a changed
                                    perception/experience of time,
                                    distance and object dimensions
                                    precisely in line with the
                                    observations that are put down to
                                    Relativity.In this respect
                                    Relativity<b><i>is</i></b>a thing,
                                    and it’s fully explainable as such.</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
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                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              <div>
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">However
                                    this explanation stops short –<b><i>well</i></b>short
                                    – of supporting the proposal that
                                    spacetime is of itself, by its
                                    nature, ‘relativistic’ – i.e. that
                                    all inertial states of motion are
                                    equivalent, that there is no one
                                    unique such state of motion that can
                                    be termed ‘objectively static’, from
                                    which all other states of motion may
                                    be measured.In fact, it renders such
                                    a proposal superfluous, since all
                                    observed phenomena can be fully
                                    explained without introducing this
                                    additional constraint on the nature
                                    of reality.[I include in this the
                                    apparent reciprocity of
                                    ‘relativistic’ effects, which can be
                                    derived directly from this particle
                                    model.]</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">It is<b><i>that</i></b>‘Principle
                                    of Relativity’ – the objective
                                    equivalence of all inertial states
                                    of motion – for which I see
                                    absolutely<b><i>no</i></b>causation
                                    proposed (I'm talking generally
                                    here, not just about your
                                    work).Certainly the circling-photon
                                    model (on which we appear to be
                                    agreed) offers no causal explanation
                                    for such a proposed phenomenon – at
                                    the same time as explaining very
                                    clearly why such a proposal is
                                    unnecessary to explain
                                    ‘relativistic’ effects.</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">So, then:
                                    I thoroughly applaud both
                                    experimental evidence and
                                    mathematical rationale in support of
                                    any theory – and (as I observed to
                                    John W) I have never questioned
                                    either of these in respect of SR or
                                    GR, in fact I have endorsed them to
                                    the hilt.However, what I am saying,
                                    and what is fully supported by
                                    logical analysis of the
                                    circling-photon particle model, is
                                    that these experiments and math are
                                    respectively illustrating and
                                    documenting<b><i>perceived</i></b>reality
                                    rather than<b><i>objective</i></b>reality.If
                                    one recognises that effects
                                    attributed to Relativity are, in the
                                    main,<b><i>observer</i></b>effects
                                    (including mechanical/atomic
                                    ‘observers’ such as clocks), coupled
                                    with objective consequences such as
                                    the electromagnetic foreshortening
                                    of objects in motion
                                    (Lorentz/Fitzgerald contraction),
                                    then in my view we have a pretty
                                    complete theory!</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Where we
                                    come a-cropper is when we (i.e.
                                    mainstream science) insist on
                                    tacking on a wholly unnecessary
                                    ‘addendum’ to the effect that
                                    reality<b><i>is</i></b>in fact that
                                    strange place that our
                                    motion-affected senses and
                                    instruments tell us it is – that
                                    this train<b><i>is</i></b>longer
                                    (not just<b><i>seems</i></b>longer)
                                    for the guard on it than it is for
                                    the trackside workman, that your
                                    watch<b><i>is</i></b>going slow in
                                    respect of my reference frame whilst
                                    at the same time mine<b><i>is</i></b>going
                                    slow in respect of your reference
                                    frame.</span><span style="font-size:
                                    10pt; font-family: Helvetica,
                                    sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                    font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                  New Roman', serif; background-color:
                                  white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                                    font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
                                    color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">This
                                    distinction between ‘seems’ and ‘is’
                                    may appear to be a bit irrelevant,
                                    but in fact it’s absolutely crucial
                                    if we’re to progress in our
                                    practical understanding of the
                                    universe.From inertia to
                                    gravitation, from our handling of
                                    time to our handling of space (and
                                    so arguably for the future viability
                                    of our species), every new physical
                                    theory is required to conform to
                                    this frame-invariance
                                    constraint.Since that constraint on
                                    physical laws is arguably totally
                                    illusory, we are (it very much seems
                                    to me) placing unnecessary obstacles
                                    in our path to future discovery and
                                    endeavour – ultimately, in our path
                                    to the stars.</span><span
                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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