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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you, Grahame!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> General [mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr Grahame Blackwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] The CTF and NIW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Excellent - and very clearly put - in every respect!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">A mine of valuable thoughts in a very compact form!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">----- Original Message -----
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu" title="chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">
Roychoudhuri, Chandra</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:jchodge@frontier.com" title="jchodge@frontier.com">Hodge John</a> ;
<a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org" title="general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">
Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> Sunday, November 05, 2017 6:37 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> Re: [General] The CTF and NIW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hodge: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">You have raised too many questioned to be answered in one session [Not enough time].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">1.</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">CTF (Complex Tension Field):</span></i></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> I have deliberately used a multi-word phrase to underscore its inherent physical properties to minimize misinterpretations and confusions
as to what I mean by CTF. CTF concept is an <b><i>evolution</i></b> of the very ancient concept “ether” (“aether”, etc.), whose interpretations kept on changing with time creating only confusions, not resolutions. In my view point, CTF holds the 100% of the
cosmic energy. Everything observable/measurable by intelligent biological assemblies of atoms (from the viruses to the humans), including themselves, are just interactions between different kinds of assemblies of oscillations of the CTF, including EM waves.
Electromagnetic wave excitations perpetually move with a velocity “c”. However, localized self-looped oscillations (particles) stay put in one place until it experiences some interacting potential gradient (“curvature”) in its vicinity. [This particle model
resolves the absence of “ether drag” problem.] All forces are various forms of potential gradients generated in the CTF due to various kinds of excitations of the CTF. This is why the CTF concept is definitely one possible approach to develop a unified field
theory, which Einstein told us to keep trying.<b><i><o:p></o:p></i></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> Broadly speaking, the “Ether” concept (that deep space has some physical property in various forms), goes back probably two thousand years or more in the West; and, at least six thousand years in
the East. However, the concept was better articulated in scientific language in the West, rather than as philosophy, as it were in the East.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> Both Newton and Huygens accepted “ether”. But, it was Huygens who “implied” it as a “tension field” by describing the propagation of light as a wave undulation of a tension field. No wave-excitation
can travel with a constant speed unless the “medium” holds some form of a tension field that perpetually pushes away any perturbation imposed on it, as far as the
<b><i>“uniform tension field”</i></b> exists. The tension field’s inherent tendency at any point is to restore its original state of equilibrium under perpetual tension. The spatially finite size of the excitation of the CTF gets pushed on and on with the velocity
“c”. However, the delivered perturbation energy, that generated the local “deformation” of the CTF, still resides as a part of the CTF energy. The wave is an excited state of the CTF;
<b><i>it has no independent existence</i></b>. The CTF cannot assimilate (absorb) the perturbation energy. This is the root cause of
<b><i>Conservation of Energy</i></b>. That is why CTF pushes away the deforming energy to regain its spatially-local equilibrium state. That is wave propagation. The “wave” could be a finite “hump”, or a group of time-finite and space-extant harmonic oscillations
like laser pulses. This wave-propagation propensity is correctly embedded in our wave equation. Undergraduate derivation of string-wave equation under mechanical tension, is an excellent example. [All orderly cosmic rules of engagement (interactions) arise
causally out of this Conservation of Energy in different ways under different contexts. There are no “laws” that human intellect can impose on nature.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">So, to differentiate your “plenum” from the “CTF”, you should define “Plenum” explicitly. We must try out many different models to visualize the same invisible Cosmic Elephant.
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">2.</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Rest of my responses are in <span style="color:#0000CC">
“blue” </span>within your text below:<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hodge John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 05, 2017 4:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <<a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [General] The CTF and NIW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Chandra:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Did you do the Rb-beam experiment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I suggest the key purpose of physics (science) is to understand (predict outcomes of events) and to have the wisdom (ability to cause
events) to use the understanding. QM without a causal or visualize-able model can serve this purpose. But causal is better and more likely to yield wisdom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">[There must well-defined and clear, short-term and very-long-term, purposes behind all human activities congruent with our evolution. Human knowledge gathering activities
must follow the <b><i>evolution process congruency</i></b> along with the long-term sustainability of our biosphere, in our minds. Nihilistic intellectualism has always been nurtured and supported by Tribal Leaders since ancient times to assure their socio-political
control over the masses. Since none of us know everything about the past and the future of the cosmic evolution; we must keep ourselves anchored to nature by constantly trying to appreciate the physical interaction processes in nature, which are behind both
the biospheric and the cosmo-spheric evolutions. No wisdom is the final wisdom. No theory is the final theory. They must be proactively allowed to evolve. ]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Your 2017 conference paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Note that the STOE model also does not have zeros in the interference part of the double-slit pattern. However, in the experiment of
Fig. 6 of vixra 1509.0107 "Light diffraction experiments that confirm the STOE model (a force of interaction model) and reject all other models" that with $a_1 >>a_2$ (even if one of the cos coefficients =0 ) the interference fringes are still visible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">[I am sorry. My view is that the Human scientific thinking processes, and projected theories, are not yet matured enough to declare the rejection of “all other models”!]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I have thought that your CTF is similar to my "plenum". My current attention is to identify spectrograph and polarizing (later reflection
and refraction) behavior. So:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">RE: your paper "Next Frontier in Physics -- Space as a Complex tension field", 4.1 1)Spectrometry <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">The equations used are solutions of the wave equation. They are wave equations. But this implies there must be some action to keep the
wave oscillation through the zero point. In media such as strings and water this is the property of inertia. Without the property of inertia, the CTF fails to present a "wave" (solution to the wave equation). This seems to imply the Fourier monochromatic wave
through the kinetic energy and as a solution of the wave equation DOES obey the principle of conservation of energy. So, the Dirac's statement that photons interfere only with itself is partly correct. This can be modified to photons interfere with itself
and with others that have an equal energy (frequency). Experimentally, single photon diffraction has been observed. Entanglement is a frequency resonance effect if the CTF wave can travel very much faster than light. I note your view of gravitation and the
inertia in the CTF could derive the Equivalence Principle, which would require monochromatic wave to conserve energy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">[Sorry. Too many questions. I will answer only partly.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">Correct human invented mathematical logics (correct equations) never can capture all there is to know about nature. Dirac went beyond his expertise to make comment about
“interference”. He did not even specify that the <b><i>linear</i></b> Superposition Principle, while it is a correct mathematical starting platform; it does not represent a measurable phenomenon of nature. It is the non-linear quadratic (square modulus) of
the sum of all the joint linear excitations imposed on the <b><i>same detecting entity</i></b>, which represent a measurable physical effect. Creating operating logic out of an un-measurable mathematical equation, will always remain as a correct mathematical
theorem only. This kinds of assertions would not be very useful to promote our deeper knowledge, or sustainable evolution, which is our ultimate goal. It will only be a wasteful intellectual diversion, however pleasurable that might be.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">The $\Psi$ of QM is a "physical dipolar undulation amplitude" - a real wave. If $\Psi$ is propagating forward in space and time, what
is $Psi^*$?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">[Unlike the prevailing interpretation of the QM-psi as a plane wave; I consider the particles as inherently localized self-looped harmonic oscillations. Different excitations
can excite different kinds of internal oscillations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC"> Further, this energy conserving universe cannot generate Fourier monochromatic plane waves as they would require infinite amount of energy. So, developing theories
using infinite monochromatic Fourier modes will naturally generate different kinds of “divergences” from realities depending upon the phenomenon being modeled. Mathematically brilliant re-normalizing techniques will not help us reveal the real interaction
processes, which nature executes to carry on the biospheric and the cosmo-spheric evolutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">Our core goal behind science and engineering should be anchored to understanding the evolutionary processes in nature and then apply them to assure that our progenies
can continue living for an indefinite amount of time (on earth now, and on other planets in other stars in deep future). We, the blinds, need an indefinite amount of time to fathom the magnificent creativities and the purposes behind the “living” Cosmic Elephant.
Our successful evolution has to be a collective endeavor!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">Sincerely<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0000CC">Chandra.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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